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Thread: Will an early E23 euro bumper/valance fit late E23?

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    Will an early E23 euro bumper/valance fit late E23?

    If it does fit, is it a simple bolt on with no modifications? If it does not fit, can it be made to fit with simple modifications?



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    I'm not recalling much difference between euro bumpers except for rear side panels. Got pics of what u refer to?


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    I have an '86 and want to know if this will fit basically...






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    You found one!? Awesome!

    IIRC, the valances should be interchangeable.
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    By looking at the pic, does that bumper look pre-83 to you guys?



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    I had this problem with my car the issue was the piece under the headlights on the top of the bumper was different, it was flat an mine had more of an angle. i took the bbs valance off and put it on my euro bumper i had along with the bumper trim for the early bumper

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    I've gone thru so many euro bumpers and bbs valences. IIRC the early and late bbs valences are different. Ladt time i had an early one was like 7 years ago


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    Does everyone want a BBS Spoiler now days ? I have one on my car and do not like it that "much".

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    Imo the BBS lines and height don't fit the e23 at all


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    I just got confirmation that the bumper and valance was going on an 83, so it appears it's for a late e23... woo hoo. Does the front bumper bolt-on as easy as the rear bumper? Any modifications necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krillian View Post
    Does everyone want a BBS Spoiler now days ? I have one on my car and do not like it that "much".
    You should be shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by CMG View Post
    Imo the BBS lines and height don't fit the e23 at all
    CMG


    Love your car e30luv318i. I'm really envious of all you 745i guys... It sucks living in Cali and knowing I'm stuck with my slow m30b34.
    Quote Originally Posted by e30luv318i View Post




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    Thumbs up

    You have a LOT to be gained with just a diff swap and chip for that Motronic on your 8:1 B34.

    Could always drop in a B35 which is pretty much invisible to your CARB guys and makes nearly same power on 87 octane as the 10:1 B34.
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    745i in cali ain't no thang


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    Quote Originally Posted by CMG View Post
    745i in cali ain't no thang
    +1
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    I was supposed to meet the seller today at 1pm but came 20 minutes late. Seller was a great guy, but sold it to another enthusiast from San Jose. These parts are pretty hard to come by... Thanks for everyone's help though.



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    Pic on my green Achlat green e23 with bbs spoiler. Hihi

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    So, is this an early or late e23 bumper? I went to go look at the bumper/valance today during my lunch break and I still couldn't tell. Can anyone tell me for certain please?






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    Old topic - I know question is: are pre 83 and post 83 rear bumpers the same? they look the same on photos and need to buy one for '86 but all parts I can find nearby are from 80-81 cars..

    Like this one: https://www.olx.pl/oferta/bmw-e23-74...5-IDpgO8N.html

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    I installed an early euro rear bumper on my late 735, they look much better IMO.
    Just make sure to get the side trim, which is completely different.
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    Side trim still available, and the trim pieces that tie them to the bumper also still available but $$$- I've got 3 of the 4 pieces, can't bring myself to pay $190 for the last piece...

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    Side trims are there.

    just need part of rear bumper maybe from the pre 83 745:

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    Both euro versions.

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    Looks like all you need is the bumper rubber and clips... Still available

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    Thanks. Do you need this one? just found when looking foo front and rear rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SushieateR View Post
    Thanks. Do you need this one? just found when looking foo front and rear rubber.
    That's for a later built car- the early cars had the trim that matches the door door trim, it's thinner and looks better imho/

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