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    S54 swap DME flashing - $100
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    e36 SAP sim/secondary air pump simulator:
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    SAP wiring issue

    Gary,
    Gary,
    I was wondering if I can ask you a question relating to the SAP system on a 1996 328i Convertible. The entire SAP system on the car was shot and I have replaced the valve and pump. but now I have a situation where I get no ground signal at the brown/green wire that goes to the SAP relay. I can't find a diagram, but from what I could find online, it may go to the DME. Do you have an idea of how to proceed? Thank you,
    Eric

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    Hi Gary,

    Sorry if i missed the answer to this question while skimming the thread, but if I SAP delete while running OEM headers, will I be able to get rid of the Check Engine Light by installing just the SAP signal simulator and not messing with the existing O2 sensors at all? Or are the SAP signal simulator and O2 signal simulator codependent on each other?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliulio View Post
    Hi Gary,

    Sorry if i missed the answer to this question while skimming the thread, but if I SAP delete while running OEM headers, will I be able to get rid of the Check Engine Light by installing just the SAP signal simulator and not messing with the existing O2 sensors at all? Or are the SAP signal simulator and O2 signal simulator codependent on each other?

    Thanks
    The SAP sim is for eliminating the SAP. It manipulates the pre-cat O2 signals during a cold start. The pre-cat sensors remain in place and function normally.

    The O2 sim is for eliminating cats. It replaces the post-cat O2 sensors.

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    Just purchased a 2000 Z3 (m52, maybe m52tu depending on the vin decoder I use) with a failed SAS. Which sim will work for me? How do I purchase your sim?

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    secondary air pump simulator (SAP sim), plug & play, *no wire splicing*

    Quote Originally Posted by Kmontoya View Post
    Just purchased a 2000 Z3 (m52, maybe m52tu depending on the vin decoder I use)

    Most likely M52...
    What is last seven of your VIN?
    www.realoem.com is a pretty good place to start.


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    Last edited by bluptgm3; 07-11-2019 at 08:30 PM.

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    The last 7 are LF83878.

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    Thanks for the tip on realoem. It says I have the m52 engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmontoya View Post
    The last 7 are LF83878.

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    Thanks for the tip on realoem. It says I have the m52 engine.
    It says that but I'm pretty sure it is a tu. Can you post a pic of the engine to verify?

    I can make a sim that works for the tu as well.

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    Last edited by Kmontoya; 07-12-2019 at 10:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmontoya View Post
    That is a M52tu.


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    S54 swap DME flashing - $100
    S54 swap CAN interface board (for proper A/C & check engine light) - $275
    e36 SAP sim/secondary air pump simulator:
    $75 - standard or $170 - plug & play
    e36 post-cat O2 sims: $115 shipped, plug & play

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    Great. How could your tell? How can I place the order for the sim for the m52tu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmontoya View Post
    Great. How could your tell? How can I place the order for the sim for the m52tu?
    The intake manifold is the most noticeable difference.

    Sending PM.

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    Will this sim work on a 525i E39 M54?? Already $500 in and the CEL keeps coming back 🙁 PM or email please @gpeterson

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    @gpeterson, are you still making these? I'm interested in a SAP sim for an M62tu for my 2001 740i

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    you still selling these kits?

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    I need one for my 98 M3/4 and my 99 M3 convertible

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    Yes, still available.

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    I recently put this on my M62TU. Works great. Glad to have the SAP gone.

    One suggestion for the M62TU users: Get the version with the plugs. Our O2 sensors are in a tough place to get to, and splicing the wires myself was pretty difficult. Part way through I was wishing I'd paid the extra price to have it done more easily and securely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R Shaffner View Post
    I recently put this on my M62TU. Works great. Glad to have the SAP gone.

    One suggestion for the M62TU users: Get the version with the plugs. Our O2 sensors are in a tough place to get to, and splicing the wires myself was pretty difficult. Part way through I was wishing I'd paid the extra price to have it done more easily and securely.
    I've actually started work on a design for M62, S54, M54, M52tu that installs inside the e-box and requires simple re-pinning of the DME connectors. No ETA on a finalized design yet.
    S54 swap DME flashing - $100
    S54 swap CAN interface board (for proper A/C & check engine light) - $275
    e36 SAP sim/secondary air pump simulator:
    $75 - standard or $170 - plug & play
    e36 post-cat O2 sims: $115 shipped, plug & play

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpeterson View Post
    I've actually started work on a design for M62, S54, M54, M52tu that installs inside the e-box and requires simple re-pinning of the DME connectors. No ETA on a finalized design yet.
    Good morning @gpeterson. I am interested in purchasing the e36 sim/SAP simulator plug & play version for my '03 S62 M5. Please ping me (I do not have the capability to PM yet) with details or at PeteEnglish11@gmail.com to begin the process.
    Thank you

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    Good morning @gpeterson. I am interested in purchasing the e36 sim/SAP simulator plug & play version for my '03 S62 M5. Please ping me (I do not have the capability to PM yet) with details or at PeteEnglish11@gmail.com to begin the process.
    Thank you

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    Good Evening @gpeterson. Do you still make these SAP delete simulators? I would be interested in purchasing one for my 2001 BMW 540i . Please email me back at wstrzelczyk22@gmail.com. Thank you.

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