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    that is amazing, great write up, amazing build. Where did you get the Euro Radiator Cover? Part Number please?
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    Very nice.

    Your MAF is installed backwards in two of the pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilM View Post
    Nice to see someone rebuilding their motor instead of making a trip to the junkyard. Good work!

    A couple of quibbles though—and after all isn't that what we're here for? :-)
    - That festival of hose clamps under the intake manifold really isn't up to the very high standard of your work everywhere else. Yeah, I know it's not normally visible, but you know it's there and now so do we. There are better solutions.
    - Your Euro radiator cover eliminates the alternator cooling duct, and that's not a good idea. The Euro alternator has its cooling duct underneath:

    BMW didn't provide a cooling duct for the alternator just to keep its design engineers busy.

    Neil
    I looked long and hard at that diagram and have considered the Euro alternator duct, however I don't believe it will bolt up to the US alternator since the ducting is on top rather than the side, and it's a brand new alternator so I'd rather not have to replace it with its Euro counterpart. I do believe it should be fine for now, but finding a solution is on my to-do list.

    As far as under the manifold goes, that was the original kit from Eric before companies started making silicone molds. The problem with the silicone mold is that they also incorporate the PCV, which I have deleted. I am not aware of any other solution that loops around in the correct way for just the IACV, silicone or not. It doesn't leak, and while it's not pretty, it isn't visible and works just fine. If I ever decided to change it, or if it ever does start to leak, pulling the manifold is now a 20 minute job, so it's not the end of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by QtheGenius View Post
    that is amazing, great write up, amazing build. Where did you get the Euro Radiator Cover? Part Number please?
    Part number is 51712252268 for the Euro rad cover

    Quote Originally Posted by fsmtnbiker View Post
    Very nice.

    Your MAF is installed backwards in two of the pictures?
    Good eye!! The intake wasn't bolted up in those pictures, just was test fitting the filter with the ZKW's, horns, and fender liner as they weren't installed yet.


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    I suppose I'm pretty surprised all the stuff you deleted added up to 100 lbs. I'd love to get 100 lbs off the front of the car...

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    Impressive work as always man. Very very clean rebuild and install. Love the painted engine bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economist View Post
    I suppose I'm pretty surprised all the stuff you deleted added up to 100 lbs. I'd love to get 100 lbs off the front of the car...
    He did delete the entire AC system...compressor, condenser, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by purduinaM3 View Post
    I looked long and hard at that diagram and have considered the Euro alternator duct, however I don't believe it will bolt up to the US alternator since the ducting is on top rather than the side, and it's a brand new alternator so I'd rather not have to replace it with its Euro counterpart. I do believe it should be fine for now, but finding a solution is on my to-do list.
    Yeah, sourcing a new Euro alternator would be silly at this point. Of course you already had a cooling solution, but apparently it became a (rather small) part of that 100 lb...

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    Well if the only thing to critique after all the work I've done is the fact that my new alternator might get a little warm, I guess I didn't do too bad after all.

    Is that your bay? Looks good, I like the subtle yet functional mods (Euro reservoir, Euro fan shroud, S54 or Euro? oil filter housing with the oil cooler, etc)


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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilM View Post
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    I spy a euro radiator mech fan duct....any specific reasons you chose this duct?

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    Wow, that's a damn good looking engine bay. Makes me hate mine

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    I'm curious, what specialty tools did you use on the entire rebuild? Anything that you didn't already have in your toolbox that you needed to buy specifically for the S52 rebuild?


    Awesome photos... I wasted a good 30 minutes this morning admiring the engine porn. I'm living mechanically vicariously through you with this project. No time, no space, no cash to do a project like this for me, but I would love to do something similar down the road and drop into a 318ti. Great work!




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    looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApexSpeed View Post
    I'm curious, what specialty tools did you use on the entire rebuild? Anything that you didn't already have in your toolbox that you needed to buy specifically for the S52 rebuild?


    Awesome photos... I wasted a good 30 minutes this morning admiring the engine porn. I'm living mechanically vicariously through you with this project. No time, no space, no cash to do a project like this for me, but I would love to do something similar down the road and drop into a 318ti. Great work!
    I've got quite the collection of tools, so there wasn't much that I needed to purchase that I didn't already have. Specialty tools needed that I can think of off the top of my head were my piston ring compressor, torque angle gauge, vanos tools (cam blocks, gear adjuster, flywheel pin, tensioner pin, etc), and a few other measuring tools borrowed from friends such as micrometers and dial bore gauge.


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    Very nice and clean setup. So how does the car run? Also which Moroso catch can did you go with?


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    Is that your bay? Looks good, I like the subtle yet functional mods (Euro reservoir, Euro fan shroud, S54 or Euro? oil filter housing with the oil cooler, etc)
    Thanks. This is primarily a track car, so although I like it to look tidy, the functional aspects (e.g. 57mm PWR radiator, dual pickup oil pump/pan) are heavily weighted.

    Quote Originally Posted by das borgen View Post
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    I spy a euro radiator mech fan duct....any specific reasons you chose this duct?
    It's barely visible at the bottom of the pic, but this fan duct provides for proper routing and support of the small diameter plastic coolant pipe that goes from the radiator around to the filler neck on the Euro coolant tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by purduinaM3 View Post
    Well if the only thing to critique after all the work I've done is the fact that my new alternator might get a little warm, I guess I didn't do too bad after all.
    I'll say!

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    wow, impressive write-up and very nice attention to detail...thank you for sharing your experience with us...your end result is phenomenal indeed...


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    Thanks everyone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. M3 View Post
    Very nice and clean setup. So how does the car run? Also which Moroso catch can did you go with?
    Car runs great! Pulls like a freight train, and that diff is unbelievable.

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    cant you just rotate the duct piece on the alternator to face downwards?

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    Is the duct even necessary? How much electrical load will be on the car since his AC has been deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakfast View Post
    cant you just rotate the duct piece on the alternator to face downwards?
    No, I don't think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by dano670 View Post
    Is the duct even necessary? How much electrical load will be on the car since his AC has been deleted.
    The AC as such isn't a major electrical power draw. It's everything else that adds up, except on a dedicated track car where you rarely use the headlights, wipers, etc., much less the heated seats or stereo. The aftermarket electric cooling fan probably draws 15-20 amps (I don't know if the original auxiliary electric fan is still in place too).

    Neil
    Last edited by NeilM; 07-16-2012 at 01:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    The car isn't a dedicated track car, but is built for track and auto-x use and doesn't have much drawing off the alternator besides the basics. No amplifiers from the stereo (not even the factory ones) and the stereo is rarely turned on, no heated seats, never driven in the rain unless i'm caught in it so rarely use the wipers, etc etc. I really have no way of telling if BMW put the cooling duct there for those times when all electrical parts were being used at once, or if it needs it for even just regular use, but I'll take my chances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by purduinaM3 View Post
    I really have no way of telling if BMW put the cooling duct there for those times when all electrical parts were being used at once, or if it needs it for even just regular use, but I'll take my chances.
    Which sounds like a reasonable analysis to me.

    Neil

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