Production numbers: North American-spec sedans w/ manual transmissions

[Owndjoo]

Yeah, I have only the sedan data broken down further w/ rear seat type (folding or fixed) and if equipped with the luxury package.

ok, mine is a non LUX fixed rear seat

[MMMGP]

ok, mine is a non LUX fixed rear seat

1 of 4!

[Owndjoo]

holy shit! Techno violet manual sedan schwarts interior fixed seat w/spoiler... 1 of 4! thats pretty BA!

[DCBZ3]

Umm, EE06087 is Arctic Silver w/ a black interior. Did you mean EE06084?

Lux Estoril w/ mulberry is 1 of 15 with folding seats, but only 5 of those had a factory installed spoiler.

Might I ask for whatever info you can share on mine - EE09607?

Thanks.

[MMMGP]

Might I ask for whatever info you can share on mine - EE09607?

Thanks.

Techno-Violet/Grey w/o factory spoiler and fixed seats is 1 of 82. You have a very late build... one of the last 60 sedans produced for the NA market--the VINs terminate at EE09665.

[5speed300]

It is the only one actually.

Anyway to verify that for my 99 Fern on Modena coupe with no sunroof?

EY81852

[MMMGP]

Anyway to verify that for my 99 Fern on Modena coupe with no sunroof?

EY81852

It's the only one. You can check on your own by entering all the Fern/Modena VINs here--sunroof equipped models had option S401A.

EY79186
EY79189
EY79270
EY79273
EY79400
EY80583
EY80657
EY81077
EY81140
EY81142
EY81144
EY81285
EY81287
EY81291
EY81852
EY82995
EY83366
EY83622
EY83631
EY83827

[DCBZ3]

Techno-Violet/Grey w/o factory spoiler and fixed seats is 1 of 82. You have a very late build... one of the last 60 sedans produced for the NA market--the VINs terminate at EE09665.

Thanks, that very interesting to know.

[EE05063]

hey is there sunroof data available? I've got mine narrowed down pretty far. Would be nice to put a number on the sunroof aspect.

[MMMGP]

hey is there sunroof data available? I've got mine narrowed down pretty far. Would be nice to put a number on the sunroof aspect.

No sunroof numbers, sorry.

[DJFOX]

ee07999
Arctic Silver metallic (309)
TEILLEDER W.N./SCHWARZ (N5SW)

1 of 577 - second most common i think....

not 100% how to read interior - color is black (schwarz) - but I'm not sure what all the junk in front of it means. I have lux seats heated and such, folding rear seats, no spoiler

[hellrotfour]

Hellrot red on Modena leather. 1 of 13 pretty cool

[MMMGP]

...but I'm not sure what all the junk in front of it means. I have lux seats heated and such, folding rear seats, no spoiler

Junk in front? What are you reading? Build sheet from under the rear seat?

Hellrot red on Modena leather. 1 of 13 pretty cool

Link to pics?

[sjpgoalie]

Everything on my car including both subframes, brakes, diff, motor, backbox, cluster, complete interior and front bumper came out of EE10757. Basically, both cars were gutted and this one got the good stuff. Probably a few other little odds and ends that I'm forgetting.

I'm curious to know where the trans, harness, and DME came from, though. EE10757 was an automatic. An early '97 with a late '96 production date. I didn't realize so many autos were sent over here...

[MMMGP]

Everything on my car including both subframes, brakes, diff, motor, backbox, cluster, complete interior and front bumper came out of EE10757. Basically, both cars were gutted and this one got the good stuff. Probably a few other little odds and ends that I'm forgetting.

I'm curious to know where the trans, harness, and DME came from, though. EE10757 was an automatic. An early '97 with a late '96 production date. I didn't realize so many autos were sent over here...

I believe the DME has a sticker with the VIN# on it.

[sjpgoalie]

I believe the DME has a sticker with the VIN# on it.

It is not the same DME. I am OBDI.

[SickFinga]

hey is there sunroof data available? I've got mine narrowed down pretty far. Would be nice to put a number on the sunroof aspect.

What kind of sunroof data are you looking for?

[EE05063]

What kind of sunroof data are you looking for?

Existence from factory or not......

[SickFinga]

Existence from factory or not......

Still not sure what you mean. If you want to know the total amount of non-sunroof cars then it's 159

[EE05063]

Still not sure what you mean. If you want to know the total amount of non-sunroof cars then it's 159

Non sunroof cars with all the rest of the qualifiers that my car has......

Where do you get your info from?

[SickFinga]

Non sunroof cars with all the rest of the qualifiers that my car has......

Where do you get your info from?

Same place as MMMGP. Looking over his numbers, I think he made a mistake. According to my data the total number of Luxury packaged cars is 772, not 765.

Anyway, here are stats for your car according to my data. Also, in your signature you mention "imported to USA", however this is not correct as these cars were also sold in Canada. First number is the total amount of US/Canadian spec M3s, number in brackets is US only cars.

M3/4/5 - 4574 (4452)
M3/4/5 in Apline White 3 - 585 (582)
M3/4/5 in Alpine White 3 + Black Nappa Leather (N5SW) - 258 (255)
M3/4/5 in Alpine White 3 + Black Nappa Leather (N5SW) without Luxury Package - 236 (234)
M3/4/5 in Alpine White 3 + Black Nappa Leather (N5SW) without Luxury Package, without spoiler - 217 (215)
M3/4/5 in Alpine White 3 + Black Nappa Leather (N5SW) without Luxury Package, without spoiler, without folding seats - 172 (172)
M3/4/5 in Alpine White 3 + Black Nappa Leather (N5SW) without Luxury Package, without spoiler, without folding seats, without sunroof - 2 (2)


It looks like our data with MMMGP doesn't match, since he claims 114 Alpine White + Black Nappa - Luxury Package - spoiler - folding seats, but my data shows 172 cars. Guess we need to compare notes.

[EE05063]

Well he and I have the same data so I am not sure what the discrepancy is. Thanks for the info though. My spreadsheets don't have a sunroof column.

About the imported, this was the fifth NA market sedan to be exported from Germany to the USA according to the same data. I fail to understand how Canada plays a role here.

[SickFinga]

Well he and I have the same data so I am not sure what the discrepancy is. Thanks for the info though. My spreadsheets don't have a sunroof column.

Looks like you guys got a mistake somewhere. MMMGP sent me his list of Luxury packaged cars and it had errors in it. There was one VIN that doesn't have Luxury package and 8 VINs missing from the list.

About the imported, this was the fifth NA market sedan to be exported from Germany to the USA according to the same data. I fail to understand how Canada plays a role here.

Not all cars were exported to USA. CD93 models were exported to USA and Canada. Canadian cars have option L838A in their build sheet.
Out of 4574 built for the US/Canadian market 122 cars were sold in Canada and 4452 were sold in USA.

[EE05063]

Notice it says 5th Alpine/Schwartz, not 5th overall. If I sort the data and check the build sheet on each VIN none of the first 4 Alpine/Schwarz M3/4/5's went to Canada. However I need to throw the other qualifiers back into the mix to be sure.

Also notice the sequencing of the VIN numbers and the build date. If you sort the VIN numbers sequentially the EE05062 and my EE05063 should have been grouped with the other cars built on 9-17. EE05061 was built on 9-9-96 and EE05064 was built on 9-9-96 as well.

WBSCD93***EE05059 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05060 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05061 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05062 1996-09-17
WBSCD93***EE05063 1996-09-17
WBSCD93***EE05064 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05065 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05066 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05067 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05068 1996-09-09
WBSCD93***EE05069 1996-09-09

There are also a few other out of sequence cars built during the September month in 1996. I started poking and it looks like many if not all of the out of sequence VIN cars have that S902A Press Vehicle Inspection. However if you take EE05034 for instance and look it up at bmwvin.com it has text in the individual area.

0902 Special Control

Pressefahrzeug

- Leistungsgepruefter Motor

Press vehicle

I assume all 902 cars got the same treatment, figure the data entry person might have simply overlooked typing it into the official record, or BMW masked the data on some and let a few slip through. Nice to know it got the "performance certified" engine treatment. Not that it matters now at 130k miles but it's interesting history of the car. These "902" cars seem to be even more exclusive than the "Individual" cars.

[SickFinga]

Notice it says 5th Alpine/Schwartz, not 5th overall.

If you are just going by color and upholstery then it's not the 5th car. If you going by color/upholstery, non-spoiler, non-lux, non-folding, then yeah, it is 5th.

If I sort the data and check the build sheet on each VIN none of the first 4 Alpine/Schwarz M3/4/5's went to Canada.

If you include non-folding seats, it take Canada out of the mix, since folding seats are standard on Canadian cars.

Also notice the sequencing of the VIN numbers and the build date. If you sort the VIN numbers sequentially the EE05062 and my EE05063 should have been grouped with the other cars built on 9-17. EE05061 was built on 9-9-96 and EE05064 was built on 9-9-96 as well.
There are also a few other out of sequence cars built during the September month in 1996. I started poking and it looks like many if not all of the out of sequence VIN cars have that S902A Press Vehicle Inspection. However if you take EE05034 for instance and look it up at bmwvin.com it has text in the individual area.

Yes, I'm aware that some VINs are out of production date sequence. It's not just for press cars, sometimes regular production cars get delayed too.

I assume all 902 cars got the same treatment, figure the data entry person might have simply overlooked typing it into the official record, or BMW masked the data on some and let a few slip through. Nice to know it got the "performance certified" engine treatment. Not that it matters now at 130k miles but it's interesting history of the car. These "902" cars seem to be even more exclusive than the "Individual" cars.

Press cars appear to have better performing engines, which is what M3 LTW used to get. On some early cars BMW even cheated. There is a press E34 M5 with less sound deadening, thinner windows and top of the range engine.