1995 540i/6 E34 Black/Black
Today was the day it all begins. I have had plans for this happen for over a year now and have been collecting parts since then. Today I have finally moved the car into the spot where the build will happen.
I'm shooting for about 500-600whp with 100% stock internals. I have never even removed the valve covers yet. I will during this build, only to paint them and replace the gaskets.
As far as I could find, only about 6 of the M60 engines were ever turbocharged, 4 were not in an E34. One was in an E28 that made 700whp+, one in a Volvo that made 640whp on E85, and one that is a funny car build that makes 1200WHP with twins. There was also an E32 740i build with twin GT35Rs. Looks like I'll be 7th M60 to be turbocharged on the web.
Build will consist of:
Twin Tial 44mm waste gates, one per bank
Turbonetics Ball Bearing T70, T3 divided/twin scroll. Each bank will run separately until it hits the exhaust wheel.
E32 750iL Dual Fuel pump assembly
Twin Walbro 255lph HP pumps
Bosch Ev14 1000cc Injectors - 60mm height with EV1 connector adapters.
Defi 60mm Gauges (Boost, Oil P, EGT)
PLX M300 Wideband
Magnaflow 3" SS Muffler
3" Stainless Steel exhaust piping
Custom TIG welded manifolds, 1.5" SCH10
DTA S80 Pro
Spec Stage 3+ clutch (Already installed)
Revshift Motor Mounts RED 95A and stock tranny mounts. I have the revshift tranny mounts, too. But think the stock tranny mounts will absorb vibration better.
E32 750il 3.15LSD
Plus more that I'm missing right now or can't remember at the moment.
7/2/2012:
Washed the car
Removed permanently:
Airbox
MAF
AC System entirely
Mechanical Fan
Shroud
Radiator(going back in later)
I then test fit the turbo and it looks like it will be a nice home for it, pictures are going to show about where the turbo will sit. Not so much luck with the air to water intercooler. It would work but I didn't like the fitment and decided to use the normal air to air intercooler due to a much simpler install and less problems down the road.
Pictures from today:
Enough clearance to stuff a fat front mount in front of the radiator.
Last edited by DUDMD; 10-11-2012 at 04:29 PM.
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Wow, jealous! This is a dream of mine!!!
So youre going single? How are you going to route the drivers side exhaust to the turbo? Doesnt look like theres much room.
Is it allusil or nikasil block and have you given it any thought about
the longevity of the block? Even if the tune is spot on?.
Looking forward to more updates in the future.
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Yeah, apparently it's a 5" housing that was meant to be used for a dodge cummins as an upgrade.
I can easily cut that flange off and weld on a 3" v-band flange in it's place.
7/4/2012 Update:
Ordered an intercooler and BOV, they're on the way.
Removed:
Exhaust
Headers
Alternator
PS Pump
Motor mounts that didn't last, working out the solution with the manufacturer right now.
After laying there under the car for 20 minutes figuring out how I was going to run the crossover, I have decided to run it right next to the subframe and not go back around the bellhousing. Another issue I ran into is that there is virtually no clearance to build even a log manifold with the steering box and other steering components in the way. Instead, I'm going to use the upper half of the headers, and then merge them into one 1.5" SCH10 pipe to clear the steering box crap. Only for the driver's side, the passenger side will get a log manifold to save space.
This is all of my working space on the drivers side, this is after the motor was lifted 2" and pushed over to the passenger side a little.
Not much room to work with or even reach to the headers even after Alternator, Motor Mount, and PS Pump are removed. The crank pulley was missing a bolt, 3 more bolts almost fell out, and the rest were loose too. Whoever changed the water pump years ago did not tighten the bolts.
Passenger side, lot's of room. Will be storing the passenger side manifold, twin gates, crossover pipe and the 3" down pipe all in here.
This is where the manifold's will be cut (driver's side). After cutting them up, they're going back on the motor and I'll fab up a y-joint and start building the crossover pipe from there. Took me about 40-60 minutes to get these suckers out, just because there's is almost no room to get to the nuts.
Plans for today (7/4/2012):
Adjust the steering box since it's really easy to get to now and my steering is really sloppy.
Start building the driver's side manifold.
Order a few parts/supplies.
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Nice work, I'm subscribed!
7/5/2012
Working with Revshift to build stronger motor mounts that will survive the punishment (especially the driver's one) and fix the tranny mounts issue (height problem). - EMAILS SENT, Hoping for a quick reply and indestructible mounts this time.
In the meantime, the most ghetto engine mounts ever.
Adjust the steering box since it too easy to get to right now, with everything removed on the driver's side. - DONE, Steering is nice tight when the wheels are straight.
Driver's headers were cut where I wanted them and they're back on the motor. I won't build the crossover section until I get my new motor mounts. The motor is sitting on a couple of 2x4s. Can't do much with the manifold until I get the mounts.
The manifold crossover pipe will be right behind the steering box as pictured here.
The 4-5" (whatever huge) v-band flange is cut off, new 3" v-band will be welded when I'm going to be welding up the manifolds.
OLD - Whatever size that was:
NEW 3" ID V-band flange:
OLD vs. NEW:
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Oh yea baby this sucker gonna go vrooom vroom
By the way I found a m540i//6 for 4800 blk on blk really clean only 120k on it. time to upgrade son
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Will you be tuning the ProEFI for e85?? Meth???
What is the factory compression on the m60?
Interested to see how this pans out, we've thought about developing a low boost kit at the shop for a while now.
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034EFI is the standalone I have. I'm going for pump gas first. Then either e85 or c16 to make some more power.Originally Posted by e30polak
I believe compression is around 10:1
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Nice plan and build so far!
I would look into different injectors though. Those Delphi are basically cheap GM/Rodchester units that were modded to flow more. They are designed for N/A applications and really don't atomize well and end up falling off their flow rates really quickly/easily.
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Thanks.
I'll run them at first, if I see any inconsistent burning on the plugs I'll probably switch to a better injector. My friend is running a set on his turbo honda with 0 problems.
Didn't do anything to the car today and yesterday, was on the dyno with my friend getting his Type R tuned. It made 747whp at 30psi until a lean condition in the 4th cylinder blew the headgasket. Possibly a clogged injector or a bad intake manifold gasket caused that. We were going to push it to max out the 4 bar map sensor at 42-43psi. Not bad for a 2.0 with a 67mm turbo. (This car was running ID2000's, love them)
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Just do a R&P swap and ditch the steering box. There are a number of racks with similar enough dimensions that could work (just have to make sure it's a rear mounted rack). The fab work shouldn't be enough to scare you.
I already have a rack on hand for when I do the s62 swap...
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Details please?Originally Posted by E34play
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My good friend that runs Delphi 1000cc injectors hasn't had an issue with them at all.
Type R getting dynoed yesterday was on Injector Dynamics 2000cc injectors and twin walbros.
He had a broken valve on this head, that got fixed. It is possible that is was ported out more than it was before the valve broke. It would cause a lean condition. Maybe the injector caught a piece of debris or dirt in the filter, and on a 2000cc injector it would change the flow a lot. But any injector can get clogged. He's tearing it apart right now, going to flow test the head, flow the injectors, and pressure test the intake manifold tomorrow to see what caused the problem.
I'm going to sell my 75lb Delphi injectors and 38lb Lucas injectors. I'll probably pick up a set of Bosch EV14 now, that way I only have to tune once.
I'll just leave the box alone. Going to work around it, only thing the box didn't let me do is make a complete custom manifold. I'm using less than a foot of each factory header on the driver's side.
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All this work and T3... why?
Why not?Originally Posted by VwAlex
What's your issue with my t3 turbo? It's not like I have a fully built motor trying to make 1200hp and push it to the limit. My friend is actually running a t3 turbo on the type r mentioned above, made 747 at 30 psi. He still has another 12 pounds of boost to go until the map sensor is maxed out. Precision turbos are amazing with their billet wheels. He's using a 6765 turbo on that Type R.
T3 is just the flange size, the actual housing is huge and will flow a lot. T3 is much more spool friendly over a t4 anyways, due to higher manifold pressure. That's exactly what I want on a street car.
ThanksOriginally Posted by BigM62
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