E39 Cold Air intake

[AnotherGeezer]

A nice drop in like the Dry AFE would be the only option I'd consider.

I really don't need a loud intake to make me feel good about myself.

[modkiller]

If it costs money it must be better!

I can make you one for $1000.

I will take two. One for me and one for my geezer friend's self esteem.

[bullard123]

If it costs money it must be better!

I can make you one for $1000.

Lol he he i'll take it Seriously though the name brand ones will cost a bit more than the cheap ebay ones. AEM, Dinan etc. I am going to install the one i got and see how i like it.

[aspensilver540]

There are two camps here- those that hate them but dont actually have one so who knows what this hatred is actually based upon,
And the rest of us that do have them and will say otherwise.


Its pretty clear that the only people who should be listened to here are the ones that actually use them so that you can get an actual educated response. For those of us that have them its pretty unanimous that we like them and what they do for the engine.
There is nothing you can say to that. You either have one or you dont.

This is a gross over-simplification but I believe it's out of emotion for the video the other guy posted. I don't think many members that don't have them hate them. If I had extra cash falling out of my pocket I'd buy one. I just haven't seen before/after numbers on the same dyno to prove anything. Butt dynos as we know are not accurate and most people would like to think their CAI they spent hard earned cash on is helping. I am not saying it isn't, I'm just saying there is no proof either way I have seen. So it seems kinda unfair to say the only people who can talk are the people who have the CAI. Imagine if someone was selling snake oil for our cars but we should only be listening to the people who bought the oil.

I'm not saying the CAI isn't badass, I have no clue. I just have no evidence to prove it but if you have it please provide!

[modkiller]

I don't know much but I know what you posted makes no sense at all.

i imagine this why he doesnt have one.
The type of guy that also prefers the stock cdv.

[AnotherGeezer]

Schitz knows a thing or two about making power.

[modkiller]

Im not saying it def makes hp. But you can feel the engine is different. It responds faster. This has nothing to do with butt dyno. If you just sit in nuetral and rev the engine it will move up through the rpms faster. As many have noted the 540 sucks for rev matching on downshifts. This is a minor improvement but noticeable. On a side not anyone got a lwfw like the 13 lb jbracing?

[ViolinARC]

You are wrong on both accounts.
As I mentioned earlier, I do have a so called cold air intake. I have countless data to support my claim that the factory setup is superior.

If you want to discuss meaningful intake design I'm all game.However, if you want to be the average Joe that falls for marketing gimmicks, I will call you on it every time.

This is my current intake. It draws air from the area that houses the secondary air pump.

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[aspensilver540]

If you do have data that CAI is bunk, then please share

[modkiller]

Please do share. But he says he is right so i guess we should take his word for it, oh wait, thats not even an m62 in his engine. Hmmm

Bottom line is more air equals more. The cone has a way bigger surface area. As well as the fact that an oiled filter outflows a paper one anyway. Not much to dispute there.
You can try to say that the heat it draws is hotter but thats not true either. It sits in the same exact spot as stock except stock is inside a black plastic box. The afe unit is literally one inch from the "factory cai" ducts coming out of the fender so the factory being superior holds no ground.

Factory:
Less air flow but has snorkel from bumper

Afe: more air flow and snorkel from bumper.

Im not sure what people dont understand here. Facts cant be disputed. It is what it is.
Is it night and day improvement? No absolutely not. Is it better? Yes slightly.

[aspensilver540]

Nobody is taking anyone's word, but let's see what he can post to back his assertion.

[modkiller]

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Hey i got a factory 3.83 for sale if you want it.

[topaz540i]

Hey i got a factory 3.83 for sale if you want it.

o snap a cross thread punk out!!! i didnt even know that was possible. rofl

[modkiller]

Why does the cai always start such heated debates? Everysingle person that has one likes them. What more does one need to decide?

[JaimeZX]

Okay that's an order for three. If I get two more I'll drop the price to $950.

[topaz540i]

hey mod when we left the gas station you know when i flashed my hazards and slammed your rear bumper then flashed them again that meant we were supposed to race right? i couldnt tell if you were trying to keep up or not.

[Schitzo]

If you do have data that CAI is bunk, then please share

give me a sec I will dig it up for ya

[modkiller]

Stfu. You prob still have the thinner winter grade oil in your engine. Thats good for at least half an hp. Im not slow, your just a bit faster. I was behind you. I missed a shift or something.

That was interesting how you got sideways on a 1-2 shift on a straightaway

[topaz540i]

yea, still need that lsd. for some reason the left tire is always trying to pass the right one lol

[AnotherGeezer]

Schitzo has forgotten more than either of you will ever know about making horsepower.

[topaz540i]

oh my i guess that means we lose the arguement.
1000 yays
2 nays.
the nays win? hmm i forgot barrack was still president. damn you socialists telling the rest of us how we should live our lives!!! only religious people are supposed to do that!

[rf900rkw]

"Either" ??

[modkiller]

Maybe schitzo needs to start remembering. Im pretty there arent too many race cars out there running factory e39 intakes rofl. Then again i dont watch nascar so i have no idea What im talking About.

[topaz540i]

w/e im putting myself in the time out chair. see you tomorrow.
i have the means to actually do the non dyno testing. in about a month when i actually have ten minutes im going to test both styles for air mass at rpm as well as temperatures at different speeds.
for the record i dont expect much diff in temp unless the car is stuck in traffic. i only expect volume changes at load.

good bye cruel world. im going back into the matrix.

[ViolinARC]

Hey i got a factory 3.83 for sale if you want it.

Cool...I've got a Tornado Fuel Saver for you buddy. Good for a 50hp gain...

Try removing the baffle and you'll get about the same results with less hassle and fewer dollars.

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