Nice of you to add to the DIY Hellrot
Good advice on the tool usage too. Sometimes people try to do things only one way and can have difficulty that way. I remove the axle screws on my 911 the same way you described. There's one "sweet" spot where you can get straight access with the socket. Kinda time consuming, but reduces the risk of stripping a screw head.
Enough people chime in with their experiences, and some threads end up becoming the ultimate thread on how to do something. This thread's one of those threads.
former X3 and M5 owner
'79 Porsche 911 SC NASA GTS3
'87 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe
'05 Suburban mule
'11 VW Routan family transporter
Hellrot,
Absolutely no problem! I welcome others' contributions. In the end, it makes future diff swappers' jobs easier. And you're more than welcome to use my pictures here. My only request is that if they're placed elsewhere that proper credit be given.
Yeah, the diff can certainly be swapped without removing the rear sway bar. In fact, I've done it that way......by myself.....and without even dropping the exhaust. It's just much easier and less troublesome to remove it, IMO. It's up to the individual. For me, it was worth the extra few minutes to drop the bar.
The torx bits can be a pain, but not so much so if they're clean. Stripping one would suck! The big issue, as you found out, was access. That's why I had a friend set/release the e-brake at my command so I could rotate the diff to gain proper access to the bolts. Made life much easier. I thought about using several extensions, but didn't want to risk buggering up a bolt head. If it works for you and others, more power to you!
And, yes, the diff has to be rotated upward in order to get out of its cradle and past the spare tire well. I just didn't think it warranted noting.
Tommy
Great write up!!!
Thanks for sharing!!
3rd Infantry Division, United States Army
"Rock of the Marne!"
I would definately remove the SB if I was doing the swap myself...but then again I wouldn't even attempt that...not when I have a 27 year old son that owes me big time!Originally Posted by Tommy R
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UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
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LOL... Yeah, it was a pain going it alone. I was very appreciative of the help the second time around!
Tommy
Wow, your SON is 27? I thought I was old on this forum and I'm 27. Rock on!Originally Posted by hellrot325
2005 Audi (Purchased 07/09) - 2005 Yamaha R6 (Raven) (Purchased 5/06)
07/97 BMW (Sold 08/09) - 03/01 Audi A4 1.8TMCX (Sold 06/03)
Please do NOT PM me! Email me: clumpymold@sbcglobal.net
Did I put 27? He's 25, I'm 47...I must have been having a senior moment! He loves BMW's also, he was five when I got my first, a 1984 325e in Delphin (a dark gray) and remembers us driving fast with the stereo blasting. Wasn't a high revver but man that car was a torquey lil motha! Put over 300k miles on it before...well you know...like my mom did with our dog... it lives on farm with a nice familyOriginally Posted by clumpymold
Last edited by hellrot325; 03-30-2005 at 11:48 PM.
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Zimmerman X-D Rotors/Axxis Ultimate Pads/Solid Caliper Guide Bolt Bushings
UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
BMW OEM Alarm/Woodgrain Delete/Blizzaks baby!/16x7 BMW Style 30 Sport wheels
Tommy,
Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. I did an auto to manual conversion and left myself with a 3.91 diff. Great off the line, but obviously not highway friendly. So, I bought a 3.15lsd (from a BFC vendor of course), and following your DIY to the T, managed to do the swap in all of 4 hours! A few observations:
1. The bolts holding the diff in place are 18mm (not something in every tool box, well at least my tool box)
2. This would have been a 10 hour job for a first timer w/o the extra man! So, for those planning on doing this, buy the beer and get your buddy on board.
3. Also for those *thinking about doing this* Don't be intimidated. It's not at all difficult. Just follow Tommy's DIY, and keep things organized.
3. This gave me an opportunity to see how shoddy my now former mechanic's work is. I found that when he did the tranny swap - which involved a new drive shaft - he replaced one of the prop flange bolts with a crappy hardware store bolt! I checked the rest of the install over and found other shortcuts, and less than quality workmanship. The words, "You're fired!" comes to mind....
Anyways, thanks again for the write up and pictures. I couldn't have done this in the time I did and also keep my sanity!
Craig
don't forget to give him the Trump "Cobra" tooOriginally Posted by Mrmontecristo
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Zimmerman X-D Rotors/Axxis Ultimate Pads/Solid Caliper Guide Bolt Bushings
UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
BMW OEM Alarm/Woodgrain Delete/Blizzaks baby!/16x7 BMW Style 30 Sport wheels
Amen to that - just be sure to add the fluids with the diff level to prevent overfilling... I put in my 3.46 LSD (from Dan at diffsonline) over the holiday week and aside from a few hurdles replacing the center bearing (tip - get a local driveshaft place to press the old one off and press the new one on) the hardest thing was finding a 14mm allen key to get the plugs off. I got a hex bolt from Grainger but it was too long to use with the diff on the car. A allen key from NAPA did the trick.Originally Posted by hellrot325
After doing the M50 manifold swap, this was not too difficult by comparison. The writeup definitely helped - I used the version from someone's website and wish I'd seen this thread first!
BigBilly
1987 M6 Cinnabar Red (I think) / 2014 M5 Alpine White / 1998 328iC - sold
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Any pointers on care and feeding of an E24 are appreciated.
does the sensor need to matched to the gears?Originally Posted by Tommy R
Not to my knowledge. I believe there is only one P/N for it.Originally Posted by Mini4x
Tommy
I believe the sensor measure axle rotations thereby working with any diff...wheel/tires have the only effectOriginally Posted by Tommy R
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Turner Perf Chip/Fan Delete/Sparco Strut Tower Brace/X-Brace/JTD Underpanel
Zimmerman X-D Rotors/Axxis Ultimate Pads/Solid Caliper Guide Bolt Bushings
UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
BMW OEM Alarm/Woodgrain Delete/Blizzaks baby!/16x7 BMW Style 30 Sport wheels
thanks a LOT!
just made my diff swap much easier
great writeup!
-JoSH
Hey Hellrot325....which end of the Sway did you undo? Or does it matter...about to tackle this myself in a couple days....
Thanks!
John
'95 Hellrot M3 w/Dove
AA Euro HFM Stage II (w/21# Injectors & Software) W/Gen III Exhaust - URI Crank Pully - FDM w/3 Row M Coupe Rad - 3.23 LSD - Vogtland Club Spec/Koni SA - UUC Red w/Enforcers - TMS Shims/Rear Camber Bars w/QA1 inners/Sways - VMC F/TMS R End Links - X-Brace - Perf Ultimate/SS Brake Lines - GC Tower Mounts/RTAB Shims - ZKW's w/5000K Hid - Fog Delete - Alpine 9847/Pioneer TS-C130R Kevlar Components/Pioneer PRS-X340/Stealth Box's/Wired Zune 120GB - OE LTW CF Sills/Glove Box Plate - Staggered Black M-Spoke II's w/235/40 (front), 255/40 (Rear) Nitto NT05's - Rolled Fenders!
***Got a '95 M3? (actually pretty common on all years! Even happened to Racer Seth Thomas! ) Check Your LSD! http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=390209
Look at post 69, you'll see that I did not remove the sway bar. I simply removed the two sway bar support and pulled it doen out of the way. I would recommend this only if someone is helping you remove the diff, and I would recommend that you get help. Wether you do what I did or remove the SB like Tommy R...its heavy and ackward taking it out.Originally Posted by JETninja
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Turner Perf Chip/Fan Delete/Sparco Strut Tower Brace/X-Brace/JTD Underpanel
Zimmerman X-D Rotors/Axxis Ultimate Pads/Solid Caliper Guide Bolt Bushings
UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
BMW OEM Alarm/Woodgrain Delete/Blizzaks baby!/16x7 BMW Style 30 Sport wheels
awesome DIY write up man....definitely makin this a subscribe in my book
BMWMOFO OG. Wetdub OKC Enthusiast. E36(sold), 08 Mazda3(totaled), '12 VW Jetta TDI(buyback)
, current: '13 VW GLI
"Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you"
- Jeremy Clarkson -
You are the man. I wish I had this when I was swapping my diff, but instead took it to the shop
now the question is....what diff do i want.....im still learning tho...Originally Posted by ///M LIFEŠ
BMWMOFO OG. Wetdub OKC Enthusiast. E36(sold), 08 Mazda3(totaled), '12 VW Jetta TDI(buyback)
, current: '13 VW GLI
"Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you"
- Jeremy Clarkson -
You're welcome, guys... Happy to help.
Tommy
That is one good heck of pictures, Tommy, it is very helpful. though it is a bit too much for me, but Ill try with the help of this thread. B y the way, how are you able to post all these beautiful pics, am trying to post some pictures for some DIY I did, the forums won't let me, I always go beyond the 150KB limit. thnx
Make sure they're jpeg...you can thow them into MS Paint and resize them and change format...
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Turner Perf Chip/Fan Delete/Sparco Strut Tower Brace/X-Brace/JTD Underpanel
Zimmerman X-D Rotors/Axxis Ultimate Pads/Solid Caliper Guide Bolt Bushings
UUC EVO3/DSSR SSK/3.15 LSD/Cosmos Racing CAI V2/ASC Delete
96+ M3 LCA/LCAB M3 RTAB and GC Shims
BMW OEM Alarm/Woodgrain Delete/Blizzaks baby!/16x7 BMW Style 30 Sport wheels
I've got two Teenagers to help me! Just waiting for the new (used) one to show up, need to do some prep work today. I don't look forward to the heavy part, I'm a skinny dude! My boys should be able to help though. Need to fab a better platform for the Jack Head too, it's too damn small....
John
'95 Hellrot M3 w/Dove
AA Euro HFM Stage II (w/21# Injectors & Software) W/Gen III Exhaust - URI Crank Pully - FDM w/3 Row M Coupe Rad - 3.23 LSD - Vogtland Club Spec/Koni SA - UUC Red w/Enforcers - TMS Shims/Rear Camber Bars w/QA1 inners/Sways - VMC F/TMS R End Links - X-Brace - Perf Ultimate/SS Brake Lines - GC Tower Mounts/RTAB Shims - ZKW's w/5000K Hid - Fog Delete - Alpine 9847/Pioneer TS-C130R Kevlar Components/Pioneer PRS-X340/Stealth Box's/Wired Zune 120GB - OE LTW CF Sills/Glove Box Plate - Staggered Black M-Spoke II's w/235/40 (front), 255/40 (Rear) Nitto NT05's - Rolled Fenders!
***Got a '95 M3? (actually pretty common on all years! Even happened to Racer Seth Thomas! ) Check Your LSD! http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=390209
i did it in 3 hours including jacking car up and setting it right... you don't need to take off sway bar .. just loosen 2 rear-most bolts and lower it down and let output shafts hang on it ... no zip ties needed.... its simple
i did 2.93 to 3.15 LSD on a E36 328is
Yup, that's all been covered already in this thread. Personally, I found it easier with the bar removed and with zip ties (having done both ways), but to each his own...Originally Posted by 328 Power 04
Tommy
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