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    Supercharged E34 M60/M62's check in here

    Ahenry had a good suggestion. Seems like there are quite a few of us on here these days. Might as well get a thread to learn about everyone's set-up's and issues you might be having.

    I'll start:

    Car: 95 540/6
    Engine: stock m60
    Supercharger kit or custom: ESS
    Blower model: v2sq
    Tune: ESS (404 DME, pin 66 cut)
    Injectors: 40#
    MAF: Porsche 803 w/ no resistors
    Intercooling: none
    Boost level: 7lbs (per ESS... Never verified)
    Diff: 3.15lsd
    Issues: not enough power
    Dyno: none yet
    1/4 mile: 12.7 @109 (112 high trap)


    Any other categories we should have?

    Updated with a couple of pics:

    Last edited by E34nication; 01-12-2012 at 12:06 PM.
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    I am. Stock with a JBR flywheel. Clutch has about 40k on it... About 6k with the sc I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jehu View Post
    Diff?
    Good one. Updated.
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    awesome thread is awesome.

    Car: 94 530it with b40/6spd
    Engine: stock m60
    Supercharger kit or custom: custom
    Blower model: v2
    Tune: miller base
    Injectors: 32# lucas
    MAF: stock with resistor (audio potentiometer for now, till i get it dialed)
    Intercooling: small little guy, but he does help. can definitely notice it on cold nights.
    Boost level: ~8psi im guessing
    Diff: 3.23lsd medium case
    clutch: stock, holding for now.
    Issues: a bunch, see below
    Dyno: none
    1/4 mile: none

    I DD this car about 50 miles a day so it needs to be reliable.

    crappy shot of the intercooler. the pipes need to be repainted too.








    fastish but im not happy with the tune yet, but she pulls great. i have all tune related issues i believe. runs okay on the base tune, but im messing with the resistance since miller tuned a dinan s/c car. since my setup is different than a powerdyne with no DV, no intercooler, and less boost, its got its issues. running less than specified resistance, and getting MAF maxing out around 5500rpm. the more i add to resistance, the worse the starting gets, and the worse it idles, but the higher i can get in the RPM before it starts stumbling. next, when it drops to idle, itll go rich for a couple seconds, then full lean and idle like doodoo, then if i pedal it or wait another couple seconds it corrects. happens every time. (the most annoying issue). next, when in decel on the back of a gear, it wont go full lean on the gage, its reading like it does at idle, and i can feel it not engine braking like it should. most likley related to my idle issue.

    id like to be rid of the maf resistor all together (brody and i talked about this and im awaiting response now). going to work on the tune this weekend with mr mikeday. as well as install my ksports!

    edit: also, per my autometer boost gage, im only seeing maybe 10-15 inHG of vacuum. not sure whats up with that.

    EDIT#2: most tuning issues caused by changing the maf resistance and NOT reseting the dme. once i figured that bit out, i got it to run pretty decent at the correct resistance for the tune (3.57k Ohm).
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    Ahenry: my car goes full lean on decel and will then "clear" with a little backfire... I'm sure it's in my tune and could be related to the fact that the tune was for an automatic car. Plan on adding some form of Intercooling, swapping to a smaller pulley (which I already have) and getting a custom tune this year if ridiculous expenses will stop popping up.
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    it should be going full lean, then when you put your foot into the clutch it should go to idle no questions asked. rich means its seeing a bunch of airflow it doesnt know what to do with, and isnt registering that its at full closed position on the TPS (gonna swap this tomorrow). i dunno, need to tinker. my idle has always, since i put this stupid nikasil engine in, never ever been smooth at 600. gonna bump it to 650 and see if some issues go away with the idle lean issue, now that ive got the software working right.
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    Clutch in my car goes straight to idle and idles smoothly. My car never goes full rich. I'll check and see at what rpm's it's idling.

    From about 3:00-3:20 you can hear what I'm talking about (decel in gear). Sorry for the crappy video... Had just gotten the gopros and didn't have editing software.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGFEUYo5pjc&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
    Last edited by E34nication; 01-11-2012 at 10:42 PM.
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    I hope its the rig making all that noise, not your e34...

    Interesting, your exhaust sounded a lot better in your other videos compared to this one. Was the exhaust system still cold in the video?

    P.S. Awesome thread idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruinBimmer
    I hope its the rig making all that noise, not your e34...

    Interesting, your exhaust sounded a lot better in your other videos compared to this one. Was the exhaust system still cold in the video?

    P.S. Awesome thread idea
    I think it was the lens protector making that noise If I had to guess, that exhaust sounded gurthy

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    My version of a headache.....

    In the Beginning:1990 535i 5speed, canadian spec'd.

    Curently:
    '97 4.4 with stock bottom and 4.0l intake running OBD1.
    Dinan Cams,
    Lucas 28.88 injectors,
    Powerdyne BD11a running up to 5psi,
    idle vacuum is 20,
    Tial 50mm rcv,
    MAF came with kit,
    no intercooler..yet,
    AIS 2 nozzle meth kit,
    Miller chip.

    Dual 3",
    into a single Magnaflow,
    no cats or resonators.

    '97 Luxury clutch,
    6 speed with short shift,
    740 3.15 "big case" rear.

    Bilsteins sports,
    H&R springs and sways,
    Poly bushings thru out,
    all new Meyle front and rear suspension arms including steering,
    Kmac rear kit,
    all set to M Techniks 2,

    '95 braking booster,
    Zimmerman cross drilled fronts,
    Brembo rears,
    switching up front to "850" 4 pot Brembos now.

    10,000k HID running thru french Hella smilies with Hella bright yellow highs,
    switchable cities,
    Hella h3 fogs.

    "17 wheels of different flavors,
    Toyo R888:
    235/40 upfront and 255/40 rears.

    Only pull on the dyno with no boost, it went lean at 4500rpm so it was shutdown.
    301.79hp
    341.95tq @ 4500rpm @ wheels.

    I have quite a few problems but soon to be installed are 60 injectors and new air cleaner setup. Intercooler is being figured and maybe problems will get easier to manage. The goal is to daily drive 40+ miles a day and build 500 whp. Though I will never stop......
    I just turned 150,000 miles on the body today and have put less than 3000 miles on the engine and chassis since initial build.

    That kind of covers it.



    Last edited by EVOLONE38; 01-12-2012 at 01:08 PM. Reason: added pics and words.

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    Car: 95 540i6 Canadian Spec
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    Tune: Dinan SC tune from a 484 DME transplanted to a 404 DME
    Injectors: #30 stock Dinan
    MAF: Stock with Dinan resistor
    Intercooling: None
    Boost level: 5-6psi as per shitty boost gauge
    Diff: 3.15 LSD
    Clutch: stock
    Exhaust: stock and falling apart
    Issues: Some stumbling and hesitation at full throttle
    Dyno: Not Yet

    Working well:
    Idle is fairly consistent at around 600
    Idle vacuum at 20
    No CEL
    Overall seems to be running well though I have nothing else locally to compare to
    Fuel economy seems to have improved according to km per tank when driven conservatively

    Needs to be addressed:
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    get a afr reading
    get a proper tune for cat delete exhaust system
    get a proper exhaust to replace the current one which is falling apart
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    obc fuel economy completely wrong
    power seems to come way too late, feels like turbo lag at times
    doesn't hit 5psi until around 5k. not sure if that is normal.
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    id say that boost is normal. then my the time you get to redline your seeing 6-7ish? the oncome of power is partly just the characteristics of a centrifigal. look up their hp/tq curve charts. youll see what i mean.

    obc fuel economy can be adjusted slightly as im told. but im not sure it can compensate for 6-7mpg difference. it measures fuel economy from injector pulse width, among other things (i think). since a 32lber has to stay open less time to inject the same amount of fuel a stock injector does (under cruise and idle), viola! good gas mileage per OBC. dinan sold a resistor pack to correct this, but i havent found info to make my own yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruinBimmer View Post
    I hope its the rig making all that noise, not your e34...

    Interesting, your exhaust sounded a lot better in your other videos compared to this one. Was the exhaust system still cold in the video?

    P.S. Awesome thread idea
    The metal on metal sound was an exhaust hanger that had wiggled its way loose... after the video I fixed it.

    The exhaust was definitely cold in this video... it was starting to get warm toward the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVOLONE38 View Post

    Dual 3",
    Magnaflow,
    no cats or resonators.

    '97 Luxury clutch,
    .
    dude DUAL 3"??? i was thinking going single 3", but now im not so sure...lol. got any pictures of that?

    and whats a luxury clutch?
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    Woah Wait! no pics?????

    Thats what is missing!

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    haha i have zero good ones at the moment. will have to grab some tonight after swapping my new belt on (and redoing my routing, as to get rid of belt slip)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHenry014 View Post
    dude DUAL 3"??? i was thinking going single 3", but now im not so sure...lol. got any pictures of that?

    and whats a luxury clutch?
    Added pics but not really any of exhaust. Tho I did edit post and clarified it is dual 3" into one Magnaflow, my bad.

    Luxury clutch has a very light/easy feel to it that can hold good HP in my car or so I was told by the guy who did the install. It feels like no clutch pedal next to my '90 535i stock clutch in the black car. So far so swell....and that is what I know.

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    I really dislike the design of the piping from the sc to the tb on the ESS unit. I think I'm going to pick up one of the VF designed pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E34nication View Post
    I really dislike the design of the piping from the sc to the tb on the ESS unit. I think I'm going to pick up one of the VF designed pieces.

    grab the intake piping too! hah it looks nice!

    Quote Originally Posted by EVOLONE38 View Post
    Added pics but not really any of exhaust. Tho I did edit post and clarified it is dual 3" into one Magnaflow, my bad.

    Luxury clutch has a very light/easy feel to it that can hold good HP in my car or so I was told by the guy who did the install. It feels like no clutch pedal next to my '90 535i stock clutch in the black car. So far so swell....and that is what I know.
    sorry man im still confused. to clarify, you have a single 3" pipe coming from EACH BANK, back to a dual 3" IN to a single 3" out??? btw i really like the TIAL on there, is it rerouted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AHenry014 View Post
    grab the intake piping too! hah it looks nice!



    sorry man im still confused. to clarify, you have a single 3" pipe coming from EACH BANK, back to a dual 3" IN to a single 3" out??? btw i really like the TIAL on there, is it rerouted?
    That tial only wents to the atmosphere. It has 5 or 6 vents around the BOV when it's venting.
    See a sideview here:
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    mhm, a friend of mine has this on his turbo m50. thats the only tial i know. if thats the case, im curious how he fenagled that into his tune. i feel like they might come in recirc config as well....
    edit: like so
    http://www.tialmedia.com/NH/QR2.jpg
    but from his pic it looks like atmospheric.

    updating mine with pics now. wasnt proud of the original done ones. these are okay.
    Last edited by AHenry014; 01-12-2012 at 06:25 PM.
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    i see the vf and ess kits all have bov. even the dinan kit in some older brochures shows it as well. however, mine does not have it and the installation manual does not even mention it. is it necessary?

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