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Thread: upgrading 225/45/17 tire to 245/45/17 yes or no?

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    upgrading 225/45/17 tire to 245/45/17 yes or no?

    I've done this on my vette from 285/35/19 to 305/30/19 with no problems.
    On the BMW can I go from 225/45/17 to a 245/45/17 or a 245/40/17?

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    use http://1010tires.com/TireSizeCalcula...?action=submit and make sure you stay withing 2-3%.
    Both are close enough, but the latter is better:
    Stock Tire - 225/45R17 >Search Tires Tire 1 - 245/45R17 >Search Tires Tire 2 - 245/40R17 >Search Tires
    Section Width:8.85 in225 mm
    Section Width:9.64 in245 mm
    Section Width:9.64 in245 mm
    Rim Diameter:17 in431.8 mm
    Rim Diameter:17 in431.8 mm
    Rim Diameter:17 in431.8 mm
    Rim Width Range:7 - 8.5 in
    Rim Width Range:7.5 - 9 in
    Rim Width Range:8 - 9.5 in
    Overall Diameter:24.97 in634.23 mm
    Overall Diameter:25.68 in652.27 mm
    Overall Diameter:24.71 in627.63 mm
    Sidewall Height:3.98 in101.09 mm
    Sidewall Height:4.34 in110.23 mm
    Sidewall Height:3.85 in97.79 mm
    Radius:12.48 in316.99 mm
    Radius:12.84 in326.13 mm
    Radius:12.35 in313.69 mm
    Circumference:78.44 in1992.3 mm
    Circumference:80.67 in2049.0 mm
    Circumference:77.62 in1971.5 mm
    Revs per Mile:832.9
    Revs per Mile:809.9
    Revs per Mile:841.7
    Actual Speed:60 mph100 km/h
    Speedometer1:58.3 mph97.2 km/h
    Speedometer1:60.6 mph101. km/h
    Speedometer Difference: -Speedometer Difference: 2.839% too slowSpeedometer Difference: 1.056% too fast
    Diameter Difference: -Diameter Difference: 2.77%Diameter Difference: 1.05%
    Current Car (delivered 20/10/21): 2021 G80 M3; 6MT; DravitGrau/Kyalami Orange/Black Extended Merino; Permium Pkg (ZPP); 826M bicolor wheels; Black M Compound brakes; Sunroof (yes no CF roof)
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    Previous Cars: 2018 F30 340ix 6MT Msport(Dec 2017 - Sep 2021); 2013 F30 335ix 6MT Msport (Nov 2013-17); 2011 e90 328i 6MT ZSP (Aug 10-Nov 13); 07 e90-323i ZSP (May 07 - Aug 10); 97-318ti ZSP (Feb 97 - May 07)

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    why does it matter
    I thought 2 to 3 % was front to rear rolling diameter for awd cars.. and who cares if ur speedo is off. also if rear rolling diameter is less on rear wheel drive cars it can cause stability control errors...

    Other then that I know of no issues going with bigger tires sizes.. please inform me...

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    Bigger tires can rub. Your speedo and odo will be off (whether you care or not is another issue). Your handling with higher profile tires will also not be the same. Gas consumption also changes. Not sure if DSC is affected if all tires are same rolling circumference, but if front to rear are off too much, it will be affected.
    Current Car (delivered 20/10/21): 2021 G80 M3; 6MT; DravitGrau/Kyalami Orange/Black Extended Merino; Permium Pkg (ZPP); 826M bicolor wheels; Black M Compound brakes; Sunroof (yes no CF roof)
    (more pictures here)

    Previous Cars: 2018 F30 340ix 6MT Msport(Dec 2017 - Sep 2021); 2013 F30 335ix 6MT Msport (Nov 2013-17); 2011 e90 328i 6MT ZSP (Aug 10-Nov 13); 07 e90-323i ZSP (May 07 - Aug 10); 97-318ti ZSP (Feb 97 - May 07)

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    I would say that the 245/40 would be closest, but you have to be worried about rubbing the inner fender well. Also, with most of the handling coming from great rear tires, I would be more worried about that
    My 528 is a German Tank..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezbmr
    Also, with most of the handling coming from great rear tires, I would be more worried about that
    Who told you that? if you do not have equally great tires in front, you'll understeer like crazy. The car drives on 4 tires still, even if RWD.
    Current Car (delivered 20/10/21): 2021 G80 M3; 6MT; DravitGrau/Kyalami Orange/Black Extended Merino; Permium Pkg (ZPP); 826M bicolor wheels; Black M Compound brakes; Sunroof (yes no CF roof)
    (more pictures here)

    Previous Cars: 2018 F30 340ix 6MT Msport(Dec 2017 - Sep 2021); 2013 F30 335ix 6MT Msport (Nov 2013-17); 2011 e90 328i 6MT ZSP (Aug 10-Nov 13); 07 e90-323i ZSP (May 07 - Aug 10); 97-318ti ZSP (Feb 97 - May 07)

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    Thumbs up 235/45/17's

    i went from 205/60/15 bottlecaps to my current 235/45/17's on squared 7.5 contours,best size for me as she is my DD.






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    I'm not seeing any concern about Transfer cases, so I have to assume either that is so obvious to those in this forum,(or they don't have AWD cars) that it is just assumed ( I hope), or, it hasn't been addressed. I have a 328xi and dealt with a tire store which put the wrong size rears (225-45-r17) with my 245-45-r17s. the shifting from 2nd to third was not smooth, it would act like the clutch was starting to go, So I had a new clutch put in for $1000.00. it was going to need one fairly soon anyway, but still...I had 2 garages look at it and the second guy finally figured it was tires sizes, not the clutch. when you mix tire sizes, your ratios of front to rear are not what they should be, and this messes with the transfer case; its like having 2 differently made gears, with different teeth, trying to work together...they don't! if you have a AWD drive car (XI or X-Drive) forget cosmetics and keep the front the same with the rear. You do not want to replace your transfer case ($2600 rebuilt) BTW the guy who put the wrong size tires on was forced to give me a new set of matching size tires, to the new ones I just had bought, so 4 tires for the price of 2, and no damage to my transfer case because I caught it early. Lesson learned: check tire sizes!!

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