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    Great build!
    I see you use a s50 crank? is that from the euro engine?
    I have a 3.0 stroker myself With the s52\m54b30 crank, and that is making a lot of trouble With the dampener coming loose.
    Have you had any issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s50b30 View Post
    Great build!
    I see you use a s50 crank? is that from the euro engine?
    I have a 3.0 stroker myself With the s52\m54b30 crank, and that is making a lot of trouble With the dampener coming loose.
    Have you had any issues?
    It is S50US crankshaft out of our US 3.0 engines. 86mm stroke.

    I have had 3 dampers fail with the rubber separating from the metal ring and with high RPM rev limiter abuse, the crank harmonics are always an issue with 86mm and longer stroke cranks. I am going with an ATI damper now so hopefully I can prevent all those issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
    Did you have an issue with your other AR Design manifold? Wondering....or do you just expect even better twinscroll pulsing due to equal length action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
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    Are you simply asking because you are considering buying a first gen ar design? Otherwise of course equal length is better, especially when you are trying to get the most efficiency out of your setup, and even detonation control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowleym View Post
    Are you simply asking because you are considering buying a first gen ar design? Otherwise of course equal length is better, especially when you are trying to get the most efficiency out of your setup, and even detonation control.
    +1

    I had zero issues at all with the other AR manifold. It was completely awesome, it just couldn't fit the huge frame Borg Warner that I wanted to run as it was custom built for a 6262/ GT35R frame size turbo. A S366 / EFR9180/ GT40/ GT42R + would not fit on it as the downpipe would run into the shock tower and I didn't feel like cutting all that up. AR happened to come out with the V2 manifold just around that time and it was avertised as even more power potential, more equal length, and I could fit a larger turbo so I went for it.

    The V1 still kicked ass and took names though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowleym View Post
    Are you simply asking because you are considering buying a first gen ar design? Otherwise of course equal length is better, especially when you are trying to get the most efficiency out of your setup, and even detonation control.
    I've been KILLING/enjoying my v1 AR top mount for years (15k miles)...no issues, but...

    Mike "tests" hardware a bit more thoroughly, if you will. - He give his hardware HELL!!!!!
    I was wondering if he found any solid, measureable reason for the change.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeE36 View Post
    +1

    I had zero issues at all with the other AR manifold. It was completely awesome, it just couldn't fit the huge frame Borg Warner that I wanted to run as it was custom built for a 6262/ GT35R frame size turbo. A S366 / EFR9180/ GT40/ GT42R + would not fit on it as the downpipe would run into the shock tower and I didn't feel like cutting all that up. AR happened to come out with the V2 manifold just around that time and it was avertised as even more power potential, more equal length, and I could fit a larger turbo so I went for it.

    The V1 still kicked ass and took names though.

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    I see.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by milKt View Post
    I've been KILLING/enjoying my v1 AR top mount for years (15k miles)...no issues, but...

    Mike "tests" hardware a bit more thoroughly, if you will. - He give his hardware HELL!!!!!
    I was wondering if he found any solid, measureable reason for the change.



    I see.
    thanks
    "Durability testing" is my specialty

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    I still have Mikes first top mount manifold. Loving it too.


    FYI mike, I'm able to hold 11 to 12 psi on a 9 psi spring.

    "Believe nothing you hear, half of what you read"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fender13Bender View Post
    I still have Mikes first top mount manifold. Loving it too.


    FYI mike, I'm able to hold 11 to 12 psi on a 9 psi spring.
    That's great control! Awesome. How's the power?

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    You should definitely trade me...... If you go back to page one of your build that's what I pretty much have, not nearly as pretty.

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    Well a little more progress. I've been swamped launching Van's Parts so I haven't had much time to work on the M3.

    I did get in some supertech one piece std. size valves. I went with black nitrided intake, and inconel exhaust. (I also happen to sell these now if anyone needs a set, PM me. I will be a supporting vendor soon but I haven't been able to get the right people to email me back yet). Email me mike@vansparts.com

    Here are the valves, just std. size for a simple swap. I wanted to go with these one piece so I don't worry about breaking off a stock valve face at 7500 rpm drifting. I haven't had any issues in 5 years running stock valves, but it would be just my luck after it's all back together that one would come apart.





    Minimal update, but things are happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeE36 View Post
    I wanted to go with these one piece so I don't worry about breaking off a stock valve face at 7500 rpm drifting.

    Mike
    Bump your limiter up to 7,700 and most harmonic issues will diminish or vanish. I was told the nastiness happens at 7,400 and if you rev through it quickly you greatly minimize your "exposure".

    I have a 3.0 aluminum block built single Vanos that has a 7,800 rev limit. I DO have an ATI damper as well, but it's seen the rev limiter plenty of times and has about 9,000 miles on it now. I have had 3 oil analysis done now by Blackstone and the particulates in the oil are normal for a non-race engine.

    I'm certain I don't beat on my car the way you would Mike, and it's not forced induction but I'm still happy with the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakermac View Post
    Bump your limiter up to 7,700 and most harmonic issues will diminish or vanish. I was told the nastiness happens at 7,400 and if you rev through it quickly you greatly minimize your "exposure".

    I have a 3.0 aluminum block built single Vanos that has a 7,800 rev limit. I DO have an ATI damper as well, but it's seen the rev limiter plenty of times and has about 9,000 miles on it now. I have had 3 oil analysis done now by Blackstone and the particulates in the oil are normal for a non-race engine.

    I'm certain I don't beat on my car the way you would Mike, and it's not forced induction but I'm still happy with the results.
    That's great info, thank you. My goal was 7700-7800 rpm, but I'm still just a little gun shy since it's somewhat uncharted territory drifting with a lot of power at that rpm. Even Chelsea Denofa in his 800+ whp Formula Drift monster E46 only turns to 7200 rpm or so.

    Which ATI damper are you running? The VAC offering? I need one that has an OBD1 trigger wheel, and I'm not really willing to pony up the dough personally at this point to have another custom damper made that will suit my specific needs. I was told the "colby damper" was rated for 11000 rpm and 1800hp, but didn't have a trigger wheel, whereas the VAC unit is rated at 600hp, but does have an OBD1 trigger wheel option. I am shooting for somewhere in between those numbers. I just hope the VAC one will suffice. Only one way to find out

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    Mine came from Dan Wennerberg at Pure Performance in Ca. I don't know what HP its rated for but is it OBD1 compatible:


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    I reved to 8000 rpm, and that did not help me.
    The stock balancer broke the woodruff key 3 times, the last time it destroyed the surface the balancer sits on on the crank.
    But its 89.6 mm stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s50b30 View Post
    I reved to 8000 rpm, and that did not help me.
    The stock balancer broke the woodruff key 3 times, the last time it destroyed the surface the balancer sits on on the crank.
    But its 89.6 mm stroke.
    I know for a fact that the engine won't survive with the stock damper on the crank. I am hoping it will be okay with the ATI unit though doing it's job. I wouldn't dare try 8000rpm with a stock damper

    Quote Originally Posted by 1FRacing View Post
    mike..
    whats plans for this season... gonna compete in pro/am or what?
    I will be running as many pro-am rounds as my budget allows. We are having some really gnarly events in Lone Star Drift this year, with several japanese drivers flying out again (Yokoi, etc.) to tandem with us. My budget is tied up in my business mostly so I don't have a tire budget yet to speak of, but I am determined to drive at least 2 or 3 rounds this year. I spent over 10k in Kendas in 2013, so I'd really like to get someone to help me with that given how much smoke my car makes

    I will also be doing a few road course DE days, as I really miss that environment of just lapping for 25 minutes several times a day, and using the same set of tires all weekend

    Also will be out testing the car at a local track after the engine is broken in on the new turbo setup.

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    Some updates to keep this thread alive! Here are some pictures that I posted in my FI thread:

    Current line card I'm working on if anyone is interested:

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    /shameless plug for Van's Parts.

    Here are some progress pictures! I am back from vacation and things are moving along quick this week!

    While on vacation I went to a drift event at MMP (Miller Motorsports Park) and drifted my buddy Nate's turbo Miata. What a blast! I was really cramped in the car, with my helmet constantly hitting the main hoop, and my left elbow constantly hitting the door bar, but it was a blast!












    Back to the Gorilla!

    I hope to have the engine assembled and the turbo kit on Monday:

    Picture of the block/pistons from 2009 (M52 block/head, S50 crank/cams):



    Honed once or twice now. Another time and it will get 11+ CR pistons


    Cleaned up the shop at home a bit (the bench anyway) - we can fit TWO cylinder heads on the bench now, and actually still see the bench!


    Swapping out stock 2 piece BMW valves for Supertech one piece valves (black nitrided intake, inconel exhaust, single groove keepers on both.)




    Supertech 84lb dual valve springs and Ti retainers looking great and taking the abuse like a champ:


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    Thanks for looking!
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    looking good!
    whats the advantage of single groove valves?
    where did you get a hold of that valve spring compressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s50b30 View Post
    looking good!
    whats the advantage of single groove valves?
    where did you get a hold of that valve spring compressor?
    I do not know if there is any advantage or not, but I know the supertech inconel exhaust valves only came in single groove and since I wanted to run inconel exhaust valves for sure, i just went single groove on the black nitrided intake valves also.

    The valve spring compressor is a tool we bought and then modified and cut the little rectangular pad that fits over the retainers larger to clear the Ti retainers and supertech dual valve springs (it was designed for stock retainers/springs and did not fit quite flush until being modified a little larger). I can't remember the brand at the moment but I'll find it for you. It makes valve spring/retainer/valve swaps a breeze.

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    Well it's 3:30 am here so I'm calling it quits for tonight. Got quite a few things accomplished and mocked up. I still need to get an ATI damper on order but I think that's the last piece of the engine puzzle. Here are some pictures from today's progress:

















    More on Sunday! Off to Lonestar Drift Round 1 this weekend to spectate and hang out.

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    Awesome progress and congrats on getting the business up and running! You know I'm going to want to come spectate on the build lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgerny View Post
    Mike I love you and all of your cars.
    <3

    Quote Originally Posted by jjjjjjj View Post
    Awesome progress and congrats on getting the business up and running! You know I'm going to want to come spectate on the build lol
    Thanks Jonathan! We will have to hang out some time soon for sure. Congrats on getting your boost situation figured out!


    Here are some more pics today guys of some mock up





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    Well the uppipe and upper WG dump fitment leave a lot to be desired. I guess they didn't fully bolt everything down when mocking the setup up and building it or something but it's pretty aggravating... Going to have my local fabricator friend move the WG dump to the other side of the uppipe instead if we can.

    Pics:





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