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Thread: Noob Drift Build :) - E36 turbo

  1. #1801
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    Interesting.. My '97 328i is front mount trigger wheel. Or at least the trigger wheel is on the front pulley, I can't actually say for a fact that I remember seeing the crank sensor on there, haha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tptrsn View Post
    Interesting.. My '97 328i is front mount trigger wheel. Or at least the trigger wheel is on the front pulley, I can't actually say for a fact that I remember seeing the crank sensor on there, haha..
    I'm not sure BMW designed a new part for the OBD2 dampers. They may have just reused the exact same setup.

    Mike

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    A few more clips from the road course days:





    More to come soon!

    If you guys don't mind, please go give my Facebook driver page a like. It helps for sponsors and whatnot, and now that I have a Pro2 license that is potentially much more relevant that it ever has been. Here is a link: https://www.facebook.com/mikevanshellenbeck/ Thanks!

    Mike

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    Lonestar Bash footage:





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    Is that the IG solutions angle kit? The kind where you have to weld the bit onto the subframe? If so, did you space down your rack too?

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by protomor View Post
    Is that the IG solutions angle kit? The kind where you have to weld the bit onto the subframe? If so, did you space down your rack too?
    It's the MG Solutions kit yeah where you have to weld on to the subframe for the mounts. I didn't move the rack position at all though.

    Mike

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    Why wouldn't they make it bolt directly to the subframe? I'm so confused.

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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    Yea this should ruin roll center. You've spaced the control arm down however much. Unless you're near the same amount raised in ride height/RCA at the knuckle, this should cause lots of steering issues. Right?

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by protomor View Post
    Yea this should ruin roll center. You've spaced the control arm down however much. Unless you're near the same amount raised in ride height/RCA at the knuckle, this should cause lots of steering issues. Right?
    I'm not sure what you're asking. The brackets only very very slightly relocate the ball joint location the subframe. Probably like an 1/8" or something or less. Roll center correction is achieved at the knuckle with the block that bolts to it. The arms are completely flat and parallel to the ground when the car is static.

    Mike

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    Be careful on your first drive after you install.

    I have bought a roll center kit for another application that caused so much bump steer the car was uncontrollable over 20mph.

    It was a very small change in geometry, and the change seemed intuitive, but it did not work.

    I'm just glad I didn't hammer it on my first ride out after installing, I definitely would have crashed.

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    Yea that makes sense I guess. It looks super low to me. In the video thumbnail, the control arm looks an inch or so lower than the steering rack. But now looking at it, I think it's always offset some. The welding part kind of made me look at the kit and go "whaaaaa?"

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by testify View Post
    Be careful on your first drive after you install.

    I have bought a roll center kit for another application that caused so much bump steer the car was uncontrollable over 20mph.

    It was a very small change in geometry, and the change seemed intuitive, but it did not work.

    I'm just glad I didn't hammer it on my first ride out after installing, I definitely would have crashed.
    I've been driving with this kit for 2 years now.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by protomor View Post
    Yea that makes sense I guess. It looks super low to me. In the video thumbnail, the control arm looks an inch or so lower than the steering rack. But now looking at it, I think it's always offset some. The welding part kind of made me look at the kit and go "whaaaaa?"
    The thumbnail is not a static shot - also the tie rod looks that way but if you look at the actual control arm behind it, it is parallel to the ground. The car feels awesome, so I'm not really worried about any of this at the moment, but the arms are in fact parallel to the ground when parked, or extremely extremely close.

    Mike

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    Today was a blast! Got to do some more drifting at H2R, and I actually gave a fellow BFC'er a ride along today (nice to meet you tptrsn!):

    Enjoy!


    Mike

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    Nice work!


    '97 M3/4

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    Bet the video the passenger was taking came out REAL well.

    Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by protomor View Post
    Bet the video the passenger was taking came out REAL well.
    you kill me dude lmfao


    IG: dimitriantoniou

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    Mike, what a great time it was down there. It was a great a pleasure to meet you and experience the sheer lunacy of your car and driving!!

    That sucker spinning the tires up the hill in 4th, and then snapping to angle from over 130 was an amazing experience that every car guy should have at least once. If I can get a second or two of chaotic hand-held video that illustrates the mayhem inside the car it will be bonus. The locked off shots make it feel WAAAY too tame. There is absolutely NOTHING tame about any of it.

    Thanks again!

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