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    Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump install PDF

    Anyone have a PDF of instructions for installing one?

    I bought a new one off eBay but it came without instructions.

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    LOL.

    Thanks!

    Of course after I drop the car off at BimmerClinic I see my NEW BAP is missing the controller/in car knob. FML.

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    OP, make us both really happy & install a Kenne Bell Boost A Spark. Then do a write-up on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob43 View Post
    OP, make us both really happy & install a Kenne Bell Boost A Spark. Then do a write-up on it.


    Thanks.
    LOL.

    Need to see where I am at on the Dyno with the BAP first.

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    Why not install a bigger/ better pump?

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    Why not install a bigger/ better pump?

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    Why not install a bigger/ better pump?

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    So is the consensus here that boost-a-pumps are no good? I'm starting to wonder about needing more fuel..
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    Who said that?
    I plan to to use one.
    Can only help and there's no data showing they lessen the longevity of a Walbro or any other A/M pump for that matter.

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    Sorry, my comprehension skills aren't so great.
    So, good things with a boosted pump any? hmm..
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    The principal function of a Boost a Pump is that of a voltage regulator. When coupled with a Hobbs switch and cranked, they can also help to avoid lean conditions resulting from lack of fuel under boost. But they can't overcome tiny diameter stock fuel lines and similar restrictions. Or at least that is my experience, and my supercharger boost level is nothing compared to what you guys run on your turbos on this board.

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    Boost-a-pumps are fine. They are used often in the domestic market, typically with stock in-tank pumps. Just not sure why someone would use one over a larger pump.

    Why make a pump act like a larger pump when you can just install a larger pump?

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    I have read good experiences with them. I got a good price on one and when factoring in time and labor and cost, the BAP was the best choice for me.

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    Gotcha. So what pump are you running?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen View Post
    I have read good experiences with them. I got a good price on one and when factoring in time and labor and cost, the BAP was the best choice for me.

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    Curious: Is an adjustment to the fuel map needed with the addition of a boost a pump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by futureroadracer View Post
    Boost-a-pumps are fine. They are used often in the domestic market, typically with stock in-tank pumps. Just not sure why someone would use one over a larger pump.

    Why make a pump act like a larger pump when you can just install a larger pump?

    WOW...you have asked this question twice now and no one has responded so I'll help since you seem to be implying that a bigger fuel pump is easy to find and install without many modifications.

    So why is a BAP the best solution out there:
    1. Get more fuel out of the in-tank pumps
    2. Largest intank pumps only flow around 250-300 lph
    3. DON'T I repeat DON'T have to run duel pumps. While everyone says "just go duels". well that is great and all, but when one fails how do you know.....the car still starts and will run fine till you boost the car and it goes lean and BAM! Running duels is GREAT for guys going for HUGE power, but if a single pump on a BAP will do the job....then stay away from the duels.
    4. Just going to a bigger pump....Geez futureroadracer, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING.

    Any pump larger than 300 lph is going to be external. Then your talking about building a sump into your stock fuel tank, or running a surge tank, or maybe you just tap your stock tank and PRAY you don't get fuel slosh and starve it. Then think of all the custom lines and fittings to hook it up. Talk about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    So to answer you question futureroadracer. The BAP is an AWESOME way to get more fuel out of a fuel pump reliably with just a little bit of work. They are a great set-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futureroadracer View Post
    Gotcha. So what pump are you running?
    Stock for now. Will dyno and see that all is well. If there is an issue, I will worry about upgrading.

    Quote Originally Posted by flexer View Post
    WOW...you have asked this question twice now and no one has responded so I'll help since you seem to be implying that a bigger fuel pump is easy to find and install without many modifications.

    So why is a BAP the best solution out there:
    1. Get more fuel out of the in-tank pumps
    2. Largest intank pumps only flow around 250-300 lph
    3. DON'T I repeat DON'T have to run duel pumps. While everyone says "just go duels". well that is great and all, but when one fails how do you know.....the car still starts and will run fine till you boost the car and it goes lean and BAM! Running duels is GREAT for guys going for HUGE power, but if a single pump on a BAP will do the job....then stay away from the duels.
    4. Just going to a bigger pump....Geez futureroadracer, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING.

    Any pump larger than 300 lph is going to be external. Then your talking about building a sump into your stock fuel tank, or running a surge tank, or maybe you just tap your stock tank and PRAY you don't get fuel slosh and starve it. Then think of all the custom lines and fittings to hook it up. Talk about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    So to answer you question futureroadracer. The BAP is an AWESOME way to get more fuel out of a fuel pump reliably with just a little bit of work. They are a great set-up.

    JR
    This.

    From my research on the board, my AA tune seems to be a good match for the BAP route. It's been time tested with plenty of supercharger applications.

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    I have a in-tank 340lph pump. Also, a 255lph is plenty for ANY supercharged m5x based engine, which again, is an in tank. He doesn't need any aftermarket lines etc., just an in tank 255lph.

    That said, I completely understand what BAPs are and when and where to use them, in the OP's case, it makes more sense to me to install a larger intank pump into the stock location without complicating the fuel system with a BAP.

    A 255lph and 60's is good to what... 550-600whp. I know I made 485whp with a supercharged car running ONE 255 in tank, stock lines and 60lb injectors.

    I guess I don't see the point in running the wire, vacuum line/ hobbs switch etc, especially when you can install a 255 in less than 30 minutes...


    Quote Originally Posted by flexer View Post
    WOW...you have asked this question twice now and no one has responded so I'll help since you seem to be implying that a bigger fuel pump is easy to find and install without many modifications.

    So why is a BAP the best solution out there:
    1. Get more fuel out of the in-tank pumps
    2. Largest intank pumps only flow around 250-300 lph
    3. DON'T I repeat DON'T have to run duel pumps. While everyone says "just go duels". well that is great and all, but when one fails how do you know.....the car still starts and will run fine till you boost the car and it goes lean and BAM! Running duels is GREAT for guys going for HUGE power, but if a single pump on a BAP will do the job....then stay away from the duels.
    4. Just going to a bigger pump....Geez futureroadracer, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING.

    Any pump larger than 300 lph is going to be external. Then your talking about building a sump into your stock fuel tank, or running a surge tank, or maybe you just tap your stock tank and PRAY you don't get fuel slosh and starve it. Then think of all the custom lines and fittings to hook it up. Talk about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    So to answer you question futureroadracer. The BAP is an AWESOME way to get more fuel out of a fuel pump reliably with just a little bit of work. They are a great set-up.

    JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by futureroadracer View Post
    I have a in-tank 340lph pump. Also, a 255lph is plenty for ANY supercharged m5x based engine, which again, is an in tank. He doesn't need any aftermarket lines etc., just an in tank 255lph.

    That said, I completely understand what BAPs are and when and where to use them, in the OP's case, it makes more sense to me to install a larger intank pump into the stock location without complicating the fuel system with a BAP.

    A 255lph and 60's is good to what... 550-600whp. I know I made 485whp with a supercharged car running ONE 255 in tank, stock lines and 60lb injectors.

    I guess I don't see the point in running the wire, vacuum line/ hobbs switch etc, especially when you can install a 255 in less than 30 minutes...
    What in-tank pump are you running, Ryan?

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