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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieH View Post
    any reason why u went with the Miller set up over say a MS set up? I am very curious of how smooth the Miller set up will be. I am debating on which direction I want to take my 735i/5
    Go with MS. Call Peter Florance at PFTuning. He is the best and will make you a PnP MS unit. Also if you buy from him he offers support for 5yrs. As he is the man when it comes to tuning with MS. His package is about $1100 but very worth it. Also MS has a auto tune function were you do a pull and it will automatically set all the settings to be just about exact. I use this setting for everything but WOT which i tune on my own. Support for MS seems to be bigger also, especially with forums and such. Many people can help you out if you have problems.

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    yeap spoke to Peter. Its a bit more expensive than the Miller set up however it is more flexible which i like

    auto tune sounds awesome
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    Question.. using ARP head bolts do i torque the head bolts to factory specs or something else?

    and can someone clarify if these are studs or bolts. select M30 in the drop down menu..
    http://store.vacmotorsports.com/arp-...-bmw-p114.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    Question.. using ARP head bolts do i torque the head bolts to factory specs or something else?

    and can someone clarify if these are studs or bolts. select M30 in the drop down menu..
    http://store.vacmotorsports.com/arp-...-bmw-p114.aspx
    Follow the torque instructions that come in the package of studs.

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    Per the ARP catalog at http://www.arp-bolts.com/
    The stud kit for the M30 is PN 201-4602.

    VAC has a lower price than Summit? Interesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofWill View Post
    Per the ARP catalog at http://www.arp-bolts.com/
    The stud kit for the M30 is PN 201-4602.

    VAC has a lower price than Summit? Interesting...
    I've found that summit will price match anything. They want the sale. I personally don't like VAC, so I have stayed away.

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    now are those studs or bolts though?

    IIRC you can only attach the head with studs if the motor is out of the car.. which isnt an option for me.. can i unbolt the motor mount and jack up one side?

    i dont think ARP makes a Bolt style stud for my car.. which blows..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    now are those studs or bolts though?

    IIRC you can only attach the head with studs if the motor is out of the car.. which isnt an option for me.. can i unbolt the motor mount and jack up one side?

    i dont think ARP makes a Bolt style stud for my car.. which blows..
    Headbolts & head studs can be installed on an e34 m30 with the block in the car. Will need to unbolt the coolant reservoir & the wiring loom from the firewall(just 2 plastic nuts each). I suggest chasing & cleaning the block threads more than you'd think. I used locktite red on the bottom of the studs, drawing them up from bottom by 3/4 turn each.

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    Thanks for that info man. I thought I'd have to jack the motor up from one side to tilt it enough to clear the strut tower. If you have the space in a 5er I should have plenty of room in my 7

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    Ive diagnosed myself with OCD or CDO in alphabetical order.. I just made all the Tbolt clamps on my charge pipes (Intercooler tubes) face the same way and at the same position and evenly spaced from each other.. i whipped out the tape measure to make sure things were exact.. should i be concerned?...

    here comes some more part arrival and assembly pictures! yay..

    Intercooler showed up measures 29x11x3 biggest i could find with my space available.



    heres all my couplers already to go so i can just bolt it up and make the connections.



    my angled adapter came in.. but its not as tall as i was hoping for so im going to have to get flanges to use as spacers to raise the turbo a bit more as i will hit the valve cover as it sits now..







    head came back from the machine shop.. clean and beautiful.. now i gotta disassemble lubricate everything and reassemble..



    milled within specifications..



    Now i dont know what you guys use to lubricate parts during assembly but i use this. it comes out thick soaks into the metal fast and lubricates amazingly well.. i can turn the camshaft BY HAND (no tools) usually found everywhere for around $2.50 a bottle 2 bottles will liberally lubricate an entire engine assembly.




    more updates in the following weeks as i start to put it all together. first start is getting closer

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    Your head should be ready to be put on right from the machine shop. I dont see the need to disassemble it again. Its should be all lubed and all. Also you are suppose to use assembly oil when you assembly engine parts not oil treatment.

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    in my defense the 3 other motors i built using this stuff are still running today.. those were years ago. and i didnt pay for them to re lube everything. so i did it myself to save money.

    also i think i have this clearance issue sorted out..





    only thing im concerned about is the heat from the wastegate next to the cold side of my turbo.. but then again i dont actually care.. im at the point where i just wanna get it done.. im sooo close to being finished.

    Question.. for my build would i benefit more from 42lb injectors or 60lb injectors as i found both a set of 6 for the same price.. any thoughts?? ordering friday.

    from here on out... il be taking pictures with the D80..


    DSC_1557 by TheStatic7, on Flickr


    DSC_1558 by TheStatic7, on Flickr


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    more coming later today when i wake up.. as for now i just got home from work..

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    What are your power goals? That will determine the size of your injectors.

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    4ish.. so 42lb huh.. just thought in my head if i get 60's il have room for more power.. thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    4ish.. so 42lb huh.. just thought in my head if i get 60's il have room for more power.. thanks man
    You'll idle better, etc. with a smaller injector. Keep it with 42#'s.

    If you don't already have injectors, I have a set of 42#'s with about 3k miles on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoupemindy View Post
    You'll idle better, etc. with a smaller injector. Keep it with 42#'s.

    If you don't already have injectors, I have a set of 42#'s with about 3k miles on them.
    i found a set of 6 brand new for $229 if you can beat that.. il be your friend and give you moneys

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    i found a set of 6 brand new for $229 if you can beat that.. il be your friend and give you moneys
    How's $180 shipped + send personal or cover PayPal fee sound for a semi-local hookup? PP address is in my sig.

    BTW - you need to get it running by the 14th. There's a dyno day that you should attend

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoupemindy View Post
    How's $180 shipped + send personal or cover PayPal fee sound for a semi-local hookup? PP address is in my sig.

    BTW - you need to get it running by the 14th. There's a dyno day that you should attend
    180 + 3% ? i cant remember what it is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    180 + 3% ? i cant remember what it is..
    Yeah, it's right around 3%. That will do.

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    you'll recieve payment friday morning sir thankyou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    head came back from the machine shop.. clean and beautiful.. now i gotta disassemble lubricate everything and reassemble..




    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post

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    more coming later today when i wake up.. as for now i just got home from work..

    Ireland Engineering rockers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSideofWill View Post
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    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTOCK just really really clean

    i got nothing done today.. i was working on a damn miata all day..
    Last edited by 89BMW735il; 09-25-2011 at 12:42 AM.

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    Heh the stock lifters look like they are made out of dinosaur bones

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89BMW735il View Post
    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTOCK just really really clean
    Lol... no time like the present?
    Uprated valvesprings?

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    send the pp money as a gift and miss all the fees. just dont do it too often

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