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Thread: A Rare Bird: The E30 Baur

  1. #451
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    Augsut 25, 2012 Aberdeen MD!


    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/06/bimmerfest-east.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/08/baurspotting-makes-bimmerfest-east.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/11/our-1982-323i-baur-at-bimmerfest-east.html

    Let's do it again!!

    Funny you should mention this today... yesterday I wore my Official Turner Motorsports Caravan to Bimmerfest 2011 T-shirt for the first time this year! That was a blast!
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Some pictures of last weekend:






















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    Gr Jeroen

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    Baur TC2s, by the numbers

    Apologies if this has been posted before, but this is for all the numbers guys out there (of which I am one):

    http://www.baur-tc2.de/tc2-fakten/statistik-zahlen.html
    Check out the whole site, btw.


    Statistics and figures:

    BAUR TC2 in numbers. Further evaluations are in the database (internal members) are possible.






    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-21-2012 at 07:22 PM.
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Augsut 25, 2012 Aberdeen MD!


    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/06/bimmerfest-east.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/08/baurspotting-makes-bimmerfest-east.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/11/our-1982-323i-baur-at-bimmerfest-east.html

    Let's do it again!!

    Funny you should mention this today... yesterday I wore my Official Turner Motorsports Caravan to Bimmerfest 2011 T-shirt for the first time this year! That was a blast!
    Thank you for posting this yesterday tom, we did our three month weekend schedule today and I made sure I had that weekend off.
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    Euro Fuel Delivery Wisdom Needed . . .

    The good: I have finally finished the reassembly of Miss Opal -- aside from minor trim pieces such as the front lip, the grilles . . . and the hood.

    The bad: I have a no-start condition caused by no fuel getting to the fuel rail.

    I replaced all of the fuel hose and clamps (and I do mean ALL) along with the filter, and I also had the main fuel pump down for cleaning.

    Of course I removed the crank posisiton sensor (CPS) while perfoming the timing-belt-and-seal job, but it is reinstalled on the car.

    The relay clicks and the fuel pump hums, but the car gets no fuel.

    I know that our cars are a bit different than the U.S. versions which is why I am reluctant to begin troubleshooting by using the Bentley's procedure; I don't wish to inadvertently jump two hot terminals! So: are the test procedures the same? And what other problems could be causing this situation?

    Jeff
    1984 320i Baur TC2 5-Speed Opalgrün (Jeff's)
    1987 325e Sedan A/T Zinnoberrot (Dawn's)
    1984 633 CSi 5-speed Bronzit (Ours . . . if she says so)


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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    The good: I have finally finished the reassembly of Miss Opal -- aside from minor trim pieces such as the front lip, the grilles . . . and the hood.

    The bad: I have a no-start condition caused by no fuel getting to the fuel rail.

    I replaced all of the fuel hose and clamps (and I do mean ALL) along with the filter, and I also had the main fuel pump down for cleaning.

    Of course I removed the crank posisiton sensor (CPS) while perfoming the timing-belt-and-seal job, but it is reinstalled on the car.

    The relay clicks and the fuel pump hums, but the car gets no fuel.

    I know that our cars are a bit different than the U.S. versions which is why I am reluctant to begin troubleshooting by using the Bentley's procedure; I don't wish to inadvertently jump two hot terminals! So: are the test procedures the same? And what other problems could be causing this situation?

    Jeff
    Jeff, did you disconnect the two wires to the fuel pump while you were cleaning it? check the polarity make sure you reconnected it correctly, the pump will spin in reverse.
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    Ed,

    Thanks for the suggestion. As it turns out, the in-tank lifter pump is not doing its job -- and has probably not done so in a long time. Once I primed the car's primary pump, it started up and ran fine.

    Jeff
    1984 320i Baur TC2 5-Speed Opalgrün (Jeff's)
    1987 325e Sedan A/T Zinnoberrot (Dawn's)
    1984 633 CSi 5-speed Bronzit (Ours . . . if she says so)


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    Just as an update, the one that I posted sold for NZ$700 (about US$500).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheyne View Post
    This sad example has just popped up for sale here.
    It's a 1985 320i. Looks like it has been sitting for at least 4 years judging by when it was last registered.








    It's VIN 7522951 if that means anything.

    Currently at NZ$200 with the reserve met.
    THIS one?
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

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    Pretty cool, never knew these baur cars existed
    Last edited by racerbmw; 06-08-2012 at 04:47 AM.

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    Pretty cool, never knew these baur cars existed
    Last edited by racerbmw; 06-08-2012 at 04:47 AM.

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    Pretty cool, never knew these baur cars existed
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerbmw View Post
    Pretty cool, never knew these baur cars existed





    You can say THAT again!



    Is anyone heading over to The Vintage (formerly Vintage at the Vineyard) in the Winston-Salem area this weekend. Historic Salem, I think. Too far for me to go, but I know Reggie's Motorworks from Indiana is bringing their dark brown TC2 Baur. Worth seeing.

    Three Baurs were there last year, including Reggie's:
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/05/baurs-at-vintage-2011.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-baurs-at-vintage.html

    Can we top that this year? Baur owner HarryPR from the E21 forum will be there in his friends 2002. His Baur is now on the island of Puerto Rico, so it will not be there.

    If you can go, any pics, especially Baur pics, will be greatly appreciated!
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

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    There's a baur for sale in my area for pretty cheap, kinda want it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionAndBelle View Post
    There's a baur for sale in my area for pretty cheap, kinda want it....
    Details, details!! (If you are comfortable sharing.... we understand you may want to keep some details private while you negotiate, and we dont want to undermine that.)

    On the other hand, this forum can be a resource to helping you distinguish a good deal from a bad one, and we are here to help!

    We may already know the car in question..... is it one of these:
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/baurs-for-sale.html

    Either way, good luck... and let us know how it goes... happy to help if we can.

    I am in CT, btw, and I can't buy any more now (check out my signature to see why!), so.... I am no competition for you!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-23-2012 at 10:12 PM.
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

  17. #467
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Is anyone heading over to The Vintage (formerly Vintage at the Vineyard) in the Winston-Salem area this weekend.
    I'm tempted to make a last-minute road trip. We'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    THIS one?
    Yup. That one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Bimmerfest 2012 was held yesterday at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena CA. Several folks have posted pics, and it looks like there were 3 Baurs present on the field!

    Did anyone in here attend? There could have been other Baurs present, but I haven't seen any others in the pics posted so far.
    i did go but didn't take the baur. i didn't feel my car was quite up to par to show just yet

    it amazed me how many of these supposed "bmw enthusiasts" who knew everything under the sun about their own cars had no knowledge of the existence of baur cars.
    TsunamiRacer - Los Angeles, CA
    1985 323i E30 Baur Targa Cabriolet Lapis Blue

    along with an equally obscure and inconsequential fleet of other stuff:
    2011 Mercedes-Benz F-Cell Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric
    2010 Lotus Evora
    2000 Aston Martin DB7 Vantage
    1995 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
    1989 Rover Sterling 827 SLi

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    Just bought a Baur

    Bought a 1985 323i Baur TC this morning. Hasn't been out in a couple years. 130,000 some miles. 5sp. I will start going through it this weekend and figure out what needs replacing/upgrading. Already have a '88 325iX with 294,ooo(and climbing). Thanks go to Tomscat1 for some advice/opinion while I was in the looking mode. Pictures later. This is car number 18 that I currently own. Not all BMWs
    Last edited by 6pkfursure; 05-24-2012 at 10:28 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Last edited by Sammy7; 05-25-2012 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pkfursure View Post
    Bought a 1985 323i Baur TC this morning. Hasn't been out in a couple years. 130,000 some miles. 5sp. I will start going through it this weekend and figure out what needs replacing/upgrading. Already have a '88 325iX with 294,ooo(and climbing). Thanks go to Tomscat1 for some advice/opinion while I was in the looking mode. Pictures later.

    Welcome aboard!

    This one. (attached) I couldn't get your link to work, Sammy7. Not sure why.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-24-2012 at 10:32 PM.
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

  23. #473
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    That's the one.

    I'm really interested in seeing how this one gets put back together. Did it come with a rear top that wasn't in the pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1

    Details, details!! (If you are comfortable sharing.... we understand you may want to keep some details private while you negotiate, and we dont want to undermine that.)

    On the other hand, this forum can be a resource to helping you distinguish a good deal from a bad one, and we are here to help!

    We may already know the car in question..... is it one of these:
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/baurs-for-sale.html

    Either way, good luck... and let us know how it goes... happy to help if we can.

    I am in CT, btw, and I can't buy any more now (check out my signature to see why!), so.... I am no competition for you!
    Ha ya, that one. But I actually think im going to fix my e36 instead and sell the e46. That, or trade my e46 for an e30 and part out the e36 or sell it. :/ wish I could buy that though....

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    Baur TC1 Latches Available!!

    HOLD EVERYTHING!

    Ras called me back today 5/25/2012..... it appears that the guy from Maximillian may have the TC1 and the TC2 confused. Stay tuned: it isnt clear yet which locking latch is available. I will repost when it is gets sorted out.



    I received a phone call yesterday from Ras, a TC1 Baur (#2581) owner in Georgia. He has been searching for the convertible top latches for his Baur for a long time. He was very excited because he had just gotten off the phone with Maximillian Importing Company in MD, and they have located a source in Germany for the latches he needs!

    I don't know about latches for the TC2, but this is an encouraging sign! If you are in need latches..... and I know there were some inquiries in here not too long ago.... itt may be worth a call.

    The Latches for the TC1 aren't cheap--- they are coming from Germany, apparently----- so if you are in need, you may want to look at bundling them with some other parts, since to dilute the shipping/import cost a bit.

    This is a pic of the TC1 version....





    Here is a link to a TC2 diagram from South Africa (pic in thumbnail):
    http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E30/2-doors/South_Africa/320i-M20/browse/sliding_roof_folding_top/baur_top_cabriolet-5/





    Great news! Thank you Ras for the heads up on this!!





    Here's a link to the Baur roof diagram from the great Italian E21fans Club website:
    http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E21/Sedan/Europe/323i-M20/RHD/M/1982/may/browse/sliding_roof_folding_top/



    I will post more on the parts numbers when I receive it.


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    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-25-2012 at 04:43 PM.
    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/

    BWR PWR!

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