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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    Ed,
    Thanks for the plug numbers. The local auto parts store does not have that number in their system, nor (alarmingly) does the Bosch site recognize it. Has it by any chance been superseded to a Bosch stock number? IIRC those are a four-digit number with no alpha characters. Google has so far borne no results.

    If not, I am certain that I can order some W8LRC plugs on eBay as I did the currently N/A Bosch number for our 325e.

    Leo,
    Welcome! That is indeed a nice-looking Baur.

    It appears to have been "Federalized" with the same side marker lamps as mine . . . which were sourced from the 1970s M-B parts bin. If they bear P/N -ULO-302 00/30 (front) and -ULO-320 10/20 (rear), then Mercedes is indeed their original application. You can occasionally find them on eBay for reasonable prices. I have had to replace two thus far.

    Jeff
    jeff try Bosch W8DC that is the # listed in ETK/HTK
    Ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    It appears to have been "Federalized" with the same side marker lamps as mine . . . which were sourced from the 1970s M-B parts bin.
    Swanky! Mine are Toyota.

    But I am fortunate that they're on the bumper instead of the fender.

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    Leo: Congratuations and welcome! It's pretty cool how many of us (myself included) become hooked on the Baurs and buy them over again.


    Re the Hartge Baur in Washington state: I hope the fog lights work well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    BMW Baur TC HARTGE 323i - $8000 (Everett, WA)

    I am selling my 1985 BMW Baur TC Hartge. It wasn't sold it US. It was imported from Germany. Car was maintain really well. I bought it from a BMW collector with 77799 miles on it. I kept it in the garage for most of the time I had. It is well maintained. Have all the paperwork from the previous owners as well. You don't need to do anything to it, just needs a new home for my baby. (preferably BMW enthuses)
    This is not you regular BMW e30 you see on the road. It has a lot of power. Everything is original. Have german chrome bumpers. Gages and all the writing in the car is in German. If you have interested please email or call me. 425-367-9661 Bob.

    Features
    5- Speed
    K and N air filter and air intake
    Hard top in the front and soft top on the back.
    107000 miles
    18" wheels with low profile tires rated for 140mph
    Alpine sound system, (I pod, zune, mp3 can plug write in)
    JBL Sub in the back
    New Duel Exhaust and performance muffler and the tips. (got it done five months ago)
    All new Disk brakes front and back
    New Windsheeld and bosh wipers
    New radiator and the horses
    New timing belt and alternator belt (done three months ago)
    New controls arms, and urethane bushings and other stuff (done three months ago)
    New paint job, (got it done January of 2011)
    And maintained well with all the records.
    I think I am the 3rd owner of the car.



    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/baurs-for-sale.html

    The owner of this Baur has responded to me today. Here is his Baur plate. He plans to get on the International Baur Registry. He also stated that he took it to BMW and they confirmed that it is indeed a Hartge.

    Stay tuned.
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    Tom
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    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWtyro View Post
    Ed,
    Thanks for the plug numbers. The local auto parts store does not have that number in their system, nor (alarmingly) does the Bosch site recognize it. Has it by any chance been superseded to a Bosch stock number? IIRC those are a four-digit number with no alpha characters. Google has so far borne no results.

    If not, I am certain that I can order some W8LRC plugs on eBay as I did the currently N/A Bosch number for our 325e.

    Leo,
    Welcome! That is indeed a nice-looking Baur.

    It appears to have been "Federalized" with the same side marker lamps as mine . . . which were sourced from the 1970s M-B parts bin. If they bear P/N -ULO-302 00/30 (front) and -ULO-320 10/20 (rear), then Mercedes is indeed their original application. You can occasionally find them on eBay for reasonable prices. I have had to replace two thus far.

    Jeff


    The side marker ( on my cars as well ) were also found on the the late model 2002's non roundies so there is a BMW part # for them. I replaced my left front.
    If you need the part # search Real Oem 2002 US version production date of 1/76 lighting verious lamps and you'll find them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    9. Hartge stripes on red


    Is this the same car?

    @Leo; your 325e was sold by BMW-dealer Raab in München. But I can't find out if it went to the US staight-away.

    Gr Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    Is this the same car?

    @Leo; your 325e was sold by BMW-dealer Raab in München. But I can't find out if it went to the US staight-away.

    Gr Jeroen
    I dont know if it is the same car. Anything is possible!

    I will ask the owner. Same white roof, but different side marker lights. I have also had contact with the former owner of the Nebraska Baur (the one you posted Jeroen), but he no longer has info on the sale. I think he may have sold it to someone out west.

    How many TC2 Baurs had this color combination?

    Baurspotting is on the case!!

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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    In Burgrundrot-metallic with sand-roof: 76. As 323i: 19.

    Very curious if this is the same car!

    Gr Jeroen

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    Bingo!

    It appears we have a winner, folks!

    I just got the following email from the seller in Everett WA:
    "wow
    thats look like my car when i bought it except when i bought it, it had bottle cap alloy wheels. lol that's crazy. yeah i did restored some rust on it. she had a brand new paint job. i remember doing a car fax on her while back and it showed that she was in Nebraska. ha ha wow "



    My turn to say "WOW!"

    Kudos to Jeroen! This is why he gets the Big bucks as Baur Guru!! Nice job, Jeroen.

    I am waiting for further confirmation from the seller in Nebraska.... but it certainly seems like we have found it!

    HA!

    Stay tuned!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    It's no E30.
    Tom,

    Then he would be the fifth owner of the car, I sold the car originally, as 3rd owner, to a retired psychology professor in Eugene, Oregon. It could be the car, however, it would be worth more if he had the original 17 inch Hartge wheels that it rolled to Oregon on so many years ago.

    Damn i miss that car, but i'll be bent if I am paying 8 large to get it back.

    Dave

    Allow me to share...



    Dave
    Last edited by topdown323; 04-25-2012 at 07:52 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    It broked.

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    Confirmed!

    Okay folks. It is confirmed. Game, set , match!

    The two Baurs pictured below share the same Baur plate that is pictured in the middle. As Dave stated in the post above, he owned the car in Nebraska (pic on right below with Hartge decal). He has confirmed that he sold it to a gentleman in Eugene, Oregon, name Mel W.

    The present owner of the car has confirmed, independently, that he bought the car from the same Mel W. in Eugene, Oregon.

    The circle is complete! Nice job all! The Mystery of the Nebraska Hartge Baur is SOLVED!

    Now we just have to find those Hartge Wheels!!



    And the Baur is now available for sale!!!

    I hope to give this a full write up in Baurspotting (more details, more pics!) when I get a little time. What a great story! Thanks for everyone's help and cooperation!
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    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdown323 View Post
    Tom,

    Then he would be the fifth owner of the car, I sold the car originally, as 3rd owner, to a retired psychology professor in Eugene, Oregon. It could be the car, however, it would be worth more if he had the original 17 inch Hartge wheels that it rolled to Oregon on so many years ago.

    Damn i miss that car, but i'll be bent if I am paying 8 large to get it back.

    Dave

    Allow me to share...



    Dave
    Dave,

    You are right beyond a doubt.

    Of course, any wheels -- the bottlecaps or even those wheels (wheelcovers?) which it wore in the barnyard -- would be better than what it apparently wears now. Yes, the current owner (seller) can flame me and I probably deserve it, but good grief . . . why does everything have to be banger-ized these days? Especially a Hartge . . .

    Alright, venting accomplished. I will now put my "nice guy" hat back on . . .

    Jeff
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    It's no E30.
    in the original pic, it had Hakkepalita snow tires on steelies with BMW hubbies. worked great for when i was working on the mountain on the east coast.
    It broked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdown323 View Post
    Tom,

    Then he would be the fifth owner of the car, I sold the car originally, as 3rd owner, to a retired psychology professor in Eugene, Oregon. It could be the car, however, it would be worth more if he had the original 17 inch Hartge wheels that it rolled to Oregon on so many years ago.

    Damn i miss that car, but i'll be bent if I am paying 8 large to get it back.

    Dave

    Allow me to share...



    Dave

    Ummmm....


    ....these wheels?

    Pic is 1984 E30 Euro Baur Cabrio, Black on Black that was for sale in... you guessed it .... Washington state in March of 2010.

    Coincidence? Probably, but...... could these be the missing wheels?

    No way, right? Must be thousands and thousands of Hartge wheels on BMW Baurs in Washington state, right?



    I am gonna make a few discreet inquiries. Stay tuned.

    Last edited by tomscat1; 04-26-2012 at 06:08 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Wow, this is "Baur CSI"!!! You guys are good. I just wish I could track down my old Polaris silver Baur... I'm afraid it may have found its way into a scrap yard.

    Btw, I found my coolant reservoir has oil in it. Isnt that great? I don't have to worry about the water pump being lubricated!!! M20b23 (ljet) -----> m20b25 motronic (motronic) is in the works...

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    it's so rare, its featured in the fictional city of Gotham, in the movie, The Dark Knight. In the scene after the joker robs the bank and is pulling out of the hole in the wall where the bus drove threw, you can see a red BMW E30 Baur in the bottom left of screen grabs.
    See images attached.



    Looking for a 1990-1992 BMW E30 3 series with airbags, if you got one for sale or see one. PM ME

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    It's no E30.
    Yep tom, guessing Mel janked the wheels and put them on his black 2.0 liter.
    It broked.

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    @TomDC; Don't you have some old pictures of your old polaris Baur or, or maybe even only the VIN?

    @Philly; that is actually an normal convertible, with hardtop. You can see that the part above the windscreen is tinted, Baurs have fabric above the windscreen.

    Gr Jeroen

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    Quote Originally Posted by topdown323 View Post
    Yep tom, guessing Mel janked the wheels and put them on his black 2.0 liter.
    Mel hasn't mentioned that, but I am trying to track down the black Baur to see what comes from that. Here is a pic of the same car at a different event.

    Baurspotting is .... on the case!

    Stay tuned!
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    BWR PWR!

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    It's no E30.
    That's Mel's other one. 2.0 liter.
    It broked.

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    Baur Restoration Projects

    FYI: New Page added to Baurspotting to feature any and all Baur restoration projects... gotta give 1rdmanahan1, Andreas T, et al a place in the sun! Send me stuff to post up! Just getting started. Submissions welcome!
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/new-baur-restoration-projects.html
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDC View Post
    M20b23 (ljet) -----> m20b25 motronic (motronic) is in the works...
    Tom, did you consider an M5x swap? I'm making plans for when my M20B20 finally kicks the bucket and I'm looking for reasons (other than cost) to stay with the M20.

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    Some more pictures of the B40541:







    Gr Jeroen

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    Jeroen,

    B40541 appears to be a good starting point, but it certainly needs a lot of love. Is it yours? I should probably remember, but I don't.

    Jeff
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    1987 325e Sedan A/T Zinnoberrot (Dawn's)
    1984 633 CSi 5-speed Bronzit (Ours . . . if she says so)


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    A New Baur Mystery
    OK, Baurhunters. Here are three pics of a white [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Baur[/COLOR][/COLOR] from Oregon. You may recognize the last two pics: they are the white TC1 Baur that conkitchen bought in Oregon, brought to CA, and then transfomed into the red Baur that is now owned by docjohn in Arizona. That Baur bears the Baur tag 2565 which was once owned by Michael Baur (of the Baur family).

    The first pic is a white Baur from Chicken Saw, Oregon in 2007. It is a 1981 323i baur - with a full zender kit and recaros. Check out those [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]wheels[/COLOR][/COLOR]. Are these pics all the SAME car?

    How many white Baurs could there be in Oregon back in 2007-09?

    And, of all the white Baurs in Oregon, how many of them have identical wheels?



    Coincidence? I think you can see where I am going with this.

    Stay tuned.... Baurspotting is on the case!

    Everyone loves a mystery!

    More here:
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    Tom
    SE Connecticut
    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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