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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    Actually I'm pretty sure those are the latest for the european cars. So far every software version I found was the latest, except in the instances where this database is outdated (I think this database is from 2007 or 2008... most of the E46s got their final update in 2005). Looking at the MDS43.HIS file in the MDS43 folder, there doesn't seem to be anything newer in the 670 and 671 upgrade paths.
    You were right. I tried the auto mode in WINKFP and it showed the same software version!

    so 7545670 (tested) - SAP delete and ????? >>> + different tune?

    and 7545671 (untested) - SAP delete + post 02 sensors and cat delete! ??? >>>> + different tune?

    and all it takes is some computer knowledge, common sense, a 30 dollar ediabas interface cable, DIS/GT1, and the willingness to learn!

    Thanks TerraPhantom for providing the last piece of the puzzle!!!

    Next up,

    Removing the SAP bracket and plugging the vacuum hoses at the back of the intake!
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    any idea what the numbers in parenthesis mean?

    EU4 exhaust emissions standard (S167A) = Yes
    EU3 exhaust emissions standard (S169A) = Yes

    7571613 was the newest US spec on the V40 Daten files.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    Awesome! I'll try flashing my car tomorrow I think. And hell, I'll try flashing the factory N54 tune to my dad's car - an extra 40hp would be nice :P
    Do tell on how it went! don't forget to clear your adaptation values afterwards!


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    That's guys, this is exactly what I've been looking into doing and wasn't sure if it was possible. When I get home on leave, I'll be doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoe46 View Post
    any idea what the numbers in parenthesis mean?

    EU4 exhaust emissions standard (S167A) = Yes
    EU3 exhaust emissions standard (S169A) = Yes

    7571613 was the newest US spec on the V40 Daten files.


    The numbers in parenthesis just represent the option code that signifies that emissions standard. Since the dme doesn't actually read the VO or ZCS, I don't think it really matters. As for why different standard have the same DME, I don't know. Perhaps the DME is adaptable enough to work with the different cats (probably is since you don't seem to have any issues with the us cats)

    Also, your speed limiter probably increased. I'm pretty sure Euro 330s had a 250km/h limit rather than the 230ish us cars got

    Edit: might not be much point to doing this on the M3. Apparently all s54s got the secondary air pump - even the CSL.
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    Grats dude! What battery charger were you using?

    I'm still hesitant to flash my DME. I have a DieHard 71221, just don't know if its suitable. 10amp manual should be enough.....
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    I love it! So how can I get the necessary software...w/o having to directly pay for it? (i.e. I pay someone else instead of The Man...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoLF View Post
    Grats dude! What battery charger were you using?

    I'm still hesitant to flash my DME. I have a DieHard 71221, just don't know if its suitable. 10amp manual should be enough.....
    Hook it up and monitor the voltages. If it stays between 13 and 14.5V, you should be okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    Hook it up and monitor the voltages. If it stays between 13 and 14.5V, you should be okay.
    Within Progman? I saw an option in WinKFP (or was it NCS?) to enable voltage monitoring. Didn't try it, but does it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    NERDS!!



    I love it! So how can I get the necessary software...w/o having to directly pay for it? (i.e. I pay someone else instead of The Man...)
    It's all there in the diagnostic software subsection. It's just there's a lot of information to process. While I wouldn't call it difficult, it did take me a few months before I had everything working perfectly (I got into the scene when it wasn't documented nearly as well as it is now though)

    Quote Originally Posted by WoLF View Post
    Within Progman? I saw an option in WinKFP (or was it NCS?) to enable voltage monitoring. Didn't try it, but does it work?
    WinKFPs voltage monitoring doesn't work right... at least it didn't for me. Progman's voltage reading isn't accurate either. I just use a multimeter. You could probably use the readout from the hidden menu in the cluster too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    I love it! So how can I get the necessary software...w/o having to directly pay for it? (i.e. I pay someone else instead of The Man...)
    Find an Indy mechanic with the software. Probably charges less than the dealer. Some dealers are actually hesitant to do it as well; even if you ask explicitly.
    Or drive down to PA and ask Terra nicely.
    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    WinKFPs voltage monitoring doesn't work right... at least it didn't for me. Progman's voltage reading isn't accurate either. I just use a multimeter. You could probably use the readout from the hidden menu in the cluster too.
    Thank you. That's really good information to know

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    M52TUB28 only has three programs, 12 14 7 526 757 is the latest version. Doesn't tell me any more, like the M54 software Can I check on the DME for this number or do I need to read it in WinKFP to find the number?

    Edit: Terra's only an hour away from my Pop-pop...but Pop-pop is 4.5 hours from Morgantown...I'll be up there at some point this summer. Gotta see about a blown Austin-Healy Bug-eyed sprite...

    Edit: And by one hour, I meant 3.5...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    M52TUB28 only has three programs, 12 14 7 526 757 is the latest version. Doesn't tell me any more, like the M54 software Can I check on the DME for this number or do I need to read it in WinKFP to find the number?
    One of the numbers on your DME will indicate the software it shipped with. Assuming your DME was never updated since buying the car, that would correspond to what you've got. If it was updated at some point, you'd need to hook up to WinKFP or DIS or Progman to figure out what you've got.

    These are all the US-spec 328 DME flashes in order of release (higher number doesn't always indicate newer):
    1430389
    1438296
    1430541
    1430674
    1430828
    1430753
    1430848
    7501795
    7503429
    7505515
    7526757
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    PS- I really hate you guys right now. I was going to do the update this weekend, but talked myself out of it and figured I'd have the dealer do it (better safe than sorry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoLF View Post
    PS- I really hate you guys right now. I was going to do the update this weekend, but talked myself out of it and figured I'd have the dealer do it (better safe than sorry).
    Honestly, just do it with your own software. It's the exact same code. Just check the voltages before you start the flash.

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    This is what I got from the sticker on my DME:
    KG17132
    20000/52900 05.07.99
    GM 66530000 7
    SA 00000A0807ACD400 4
    VN 00004033FB B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    This is what I got from the sticker on my DME:
    KG17132
    20000/52900 05.07.99
    GM 66530000 7
    SA 00000A0807ACD400 4
    VN 00004033FB B
    Hmm, you sure that was off your DME? Those numbers are useful, but aren't really related to the DME at all (GM, SA, and VN are what make up the ZCS)

    I was expecting something like this
    http://www.rpmmotorsport.net/Bmw_Dme___Ews_FAQ_s.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    Honestly, just do it with your own software. It's the exact same code. Just check the voltages before you start the flash.
    Yes, I know. Just want peace-of-mind, should something go wrong and have BMW liable. If it doesn't rain this evening, I'll give the charger a shot and monitor voltages for a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoLF View Post
    Yes, I know. Just want peace-of-mind, should something go wrong and have BMW liable. If it doesn't rain this evening, I'll give the charger a shot and monitor voltages for a little bit.
    Guys, I didn't use a charger... both times.... I know, I know....


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    Nope, I only have a little blue sticker on mine with the info posted above. Seems that I'll have to wait to check out my current programming
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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoe46 View Post
    Guys, I didn't use a charger... both times.... I know, I know....
    You've got gonads of steel, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoLF View Post
    You've got gonads of steel, my friend.
    lol thanks! It wasn't that bad. My battery was relatively new and my alternator is charging properly. I wouldn't recommend it but I was itching to do it and had a pretty good feeling about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornung418 View Post
    M52TUB28 only has three programs, 12 14 7 526 757 is the latest version. Doesn't tell me any more, like the M54 software Can I check on the DME for this number or do I need to read it in WinKFP to find the number?

    Edit: Terra's only an hour away from my Pop-pop...but Pop-pop is 4.5 hours from Morgantown...I'll be up there at some point this summer. Gotta see about a blown Austin-Healy Bug-eyed sprite...

    Edit: And by one hour, I meant 3.5...
    If you're willing to come down to arlington, VA. I could run it for you. Or wait until I'm in Baltimore on april.
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    Yeah...I'm failing at downloading the software so hard right now.

    Would probably be in my best interest to have you do it, New.
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    Update: I've put 100 miles on it. No more secondary air pump monitoring! The idle down transition are extremely smooth and there is an insane amount of torque when taking of in first gear.

    I'm tempted to test out the catless software version... If only I had headers!!


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