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    Smile Guide to Buying E46 BMW Business CD53 Alpine Radios that play MP3 Data CDs!

    Production Date of a BMW Business CD53 Radio unit is the worst indicator to go by when looking for a unit that has integrated AUX IN or MP3 CD playback capabilities.

    DO NOT buy a radio for Aux In or MP3 CD playback based on the car's production date or radio's production date alone.

    You will NEED to acquire the Part Number of that CD53 Radio to properly assess what that unit is capable of.

    Based on the fact that BMW started production of CD53 Aux In Radio in the late summer of 2003, the general consensus is that E46 cars made after mid year 2003 should have Aux In capable CD53 Radios but this is proven time and time again to not be the case. Some folks with late 2003 and even early 2004 production year cars usually discover that their car's CD53 Radios DO NOT have a working Aux Input capability.


    Many of us own these cars as second and third hand cars so there is no telling what the previous owners removed and installed from the cars.

    Also CD53 Radios that failed would have been replaced under warranty and that car could have received other CD53 Radio units with later or earlier production dates and P/Ns. This is the case with many 2004 and 2005 CD53 radios that had MP3 CD playback.

    So if you have a Production Year 2003 BMW E46 or are buying a radio or car from the 2003 and 2004 Production Year stock there is absolutely NO guarantee that that car currently has a CD53 radio with the Aux In feature.


    Below I have compiled a list that will help you in deciding what to buy based on your needs.


    BMW Business CD53 Units manufactured and dispatched for the USA E46 cars from 1998 to 2007 with their respective Part Number, Production Period, and what each unit is capable of :

    1998 to 2001 E46 3 Series vehicles

    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 909 883 iPod Data Capable
    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 909 882 iPod Data Capable
    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 902 661 iPod Data Capable

    NOTE: iPod Data Capable is ONLY if the car is Prewired in the trunk for the CD Changer - You can also add Aux Input ONLY thru an iPod Data Kit like the USA Spec PA12 or the DICE iPod kits


    2001 to 2007 E46 3 Series vehicles including the E46 M3


    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 916 241 (July 2001) iPod Data Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 915 711 (Sep 2001) Ipod Data Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 919 072 (Dec 2001-Jun 2002)iPod Data, Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 921 963 (July 2002-Jan 2003)iPod Data, Sirius Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 927 902 (Feb 2003-Aug 2003)iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 10-6 927 903 (RMFD thru Dec 2006) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 941 505 (Jan 2004 - Sept 2004) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 941 506 (RMFD thru Dec 2007) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 943 429 (Oct 2004 -Sept 2005) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 943 430 (RMFD thru 2008) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 961 215 (Dec 2005-May 2006) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable

    NOTE: RMFD = Re-manufactured/Refurbished.
    If you find any BMW Business CD53 Radio Unit with a production year date sticker on it that is later than these production dates corresponding to each part number unit (IE. a year date that is 05, 06, 07, 08) it is most certain that those units are re-manufactured/refurbished (RFMD) under warranty and re-labeled to reflect the date of re-manufacture. This is especially true for the factory recalled MP3-capable BMW Part Number 65. 12-6 943 429 unit which is always re-labeled to become BMW Part Number 65. 12-6 943 430 after refurbishment.



    From that information we see that only three possible BMW Business CD53 Radio Parts Number for the E46 cars has MP3 playback (along with Sirius Integration and Aux-In Data function)

    Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 and it's Re-manufactured/Refurbished counterpart CD53 units with Part Number 65.12-6 943 430. The BMW Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 CD53s were plagued with problems and there was a factory recall of these units at one point of their hectic production lifespan hence why you come across many BMW Part Number: 65.12-6 943 430 CD53s on eBay today. These 430 units are Re-manufactured/Refurbished versions of the original Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 Business CD53 Radios even though the sellers of these units either don't know this or won't mention that to you if they do.

    AND


    Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 will also give your car MP3 playback ability. These were superior post stock original production units that were made on the last production E46 coupes, convertibles and M3 cars from late 2005 until late 2006/ 2007. If you come across one of these on eBay for under $300 then immediately buy it! These will give you the full capacity and digital function of all the previous CD53 Radios including MP3 playback and it lacks the refurbished and buggy history that the Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 units come with.


    The way the parts number work is that when a said unit gets re-manufactured or refurbished BMW changed the parts number by one up from the original number so say if my parts number unit 65-12-6-943-429 got sent back to the dealership and got refurbished. BMW would restock the same said unit after refurbishment with a parts number of 65-12-6-943-430.

    The parts number last three digits increases by 1. So 429 becomes 430 or a P/N 65. 12-6 941 505 radio would now become P/N 65. 12-6 941 506 after refurbishment.

    Which is why when you browse REALOEM you will see a lot of strange new P/N come up and some common P/N are not there for the Alpine Business CD53 Radios.

    It is possible to find a refurbished P/N with a really late production date like say Dec 2007 or May 2008. Because of this the Production Date of the later years CD53 will tell you little information on what that CD53 unit is capable of. You will need the Parts Number to find out the true identity of that CD53 unit.

    NOTE:
    They are lots of sellers that try to bump up the price of their Re-manufactured/Re-furbished Part Number: 65.12-6 943 430 units because they will tell you it has a late production date like NOV 05 or something like JAN 07 and the quality or newness is better.

    This is to rope you into buying a refurbished unit for more money than those units are actually worth relative to the original Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 units (which can come with bugs and can be pretty much something you may want to avoid).

    I would try to seek out a Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 unit where ever you decide to buy your unit from.

    Even if it a BMW Dealership make sure you ask for the Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 unit since they may charge you the same price as a 65.12-6 943 430 unit of over $1,000 for it.




    Here are some pictures of the Alpine Business CD53 Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 Radio and the label location where the P/N and Production Date are;





    Here is another pristine unit made in May 2006:








    In these pictures below you will see how this slick eBay seller tries to peel away the Remanufactured Parts# sticker to reveal the original Parts# beneath so that he can bump up the price. He is selling his units for $309 and $319 based on the prod dates of NOV 04 and FEB 05 respectively claiming the later build date deserves the price increase when both of these units are most likely refurbished versions of their bug ridden/factory recalled Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 original units. Not all 429 units went bad. Those that did, went bad early on and already got refurbished to factory new and replaced as 430 units. So buying a 429 unit today will be perfectly okay.





    A general rule of thumb for visually inspecting if the unit has MP3 digital capabilities is that the Business CD53 Radio that play MP3 files usually has the black trim along the same side as the pin17 connector-input that is in the back.





    And it should ALWAYS be an Alpine-made unit that has the MODE button in the place of the older Blaupunkt CD button under the AM/FM buttons.

    Last edited by delmarco; 03-02-2011 at 10:26 AM.


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    What about:

    model # cd 53 r50
    part # 65.12-6 977 697
    manufacture date 06 june

    thanks

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    Old thread, I know... but...

    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 909 882 iPod Data Capable

    What is this ipod data capable? is there a cable I can plug directly in?

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    You can use an adapter like a dice with it in lieu of a cd changer. That is it.

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    @Delmarco - Very nice buying guide you did. Impressive!

    I have a 1999 BMW 323i (E46). Will any head unit from a E46 work with my car?

    Thanks,
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    Perfect piece of work you’ve got done, this post is actually cool with superb details.

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    Resurrecting an old thread: for HU's listed as iPod capable, what's the most cost effective way to hook up an ipod?

    To be more accurate in my case an iPhone5, which is lightening, and I'd like my steering wheel buttons to work if possible. If not... I can live with aux and an audio plug into the iphone as long as the sound quality is there.

    '99 323i.

    I have no changer installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iXguy View Post
    Resurrecting an old thread: for HU's listed as iPod capable, what's the most cost effective way to hook up an ipod?

    To be more accurate in my case an iPhone5, which is lightening, and I'd like my steering wheel buttons to work if possible. If not... I can live with aux and an audio plug into the iphone as long as the sound quality is there.

    '99 323i.

    I have no changer installed.
    I have an 01 330 e46. I have an iPhone 5 connected and use the steering controls. I used the silver line duo ($110) and then apples lightning adapter ($40). It works exactly as I need AND charges the phone.
    Source: I'm a pimp. FBGM.

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    I have a lightning adaptor on it's way from china ($8) but don't think I can get a silverline (now owned by Audivox BTW?!) in Canada for that kind of price. :-(
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    Check amazon. That's where I got mine. There are some I'm the for sale forum here too.
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    Amazon.com won't ship to Canada and Amazon.ca carries only books and related items. I've also been dinged really hard shipping new items across the border -- anyone know where these are manufacturered? Eg, once bought a set of mats for my E36 from Bavauto, $50. Ended up paying over $75 additional in shipping, taxes and duty when it was all said and done.

    However if I can get a used one from a forum member that should work out fine...
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    Still 110 on amazon. Maybe someone could buy it and send it to you?
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    Great Information but...I just bought radio Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 921 963 (July 2002-Jan 2003)iPod Data, Sirius Capable

    I made the Aux cable myself from an old computer cable that had the plugs that fit the pins on the HU. I connected the 3 plugs to the auxiliary data link pins 8 (+), 9 (-) and 4 (GRN) on the HU and the radio recognized the AUX input and started playing music from my cell phone.

    The radio was made on December 2002. It seems that the information is not quite accurate. Still useful though.

    This was an upgrade from my CD53 Blaupunkt for my 325 convertible. I ordered the antenna adaptors from ebay and waiting for them. In the mean time I taped the existing coaxial antenna at the end of the antenna plug on the HU so it touches and it works ok for now.

    The only thing I don't like about the new radio is that it keeps playing for like 20 minutes even after I removed the key and lock the car. My old radio did not do that.

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    This is really great info. Thanks!

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    Sorry for the resurrection of this great old thread. I have a 2002 330ci. If I upgrade to a newer 65. 12-6 961 215 radio do I need to have the dealer recode it or anything? Or is it just a plug and play swap? Also, any good sources for an 82 11 0 149 389 Aux adapter kit? Otherwise I'm headed to Amazon, eBay, or BAVauto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conechaser View Post
    Sorry for the resurrection of this great old thread. I have a 2002 330ci. If I upgrade to a newer 65. 12-6 961 215 radio do I need to have the dealer recode it or anything? Or is it just a plug and play swap? Also, any good sources for an 82 11 0 149 389 Aux adapter kit? Otherwise I'm headed to Amazon, eBay, or BAVauto.
    it's just a plug and play swap.

    i got my aux adapter kit on amazon, it was the cheapest i could find at the time. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGbe View Post
    it's just a plug and play swap.

    i got my aux adapter kit on amazon, it was the cheapest i could find at the time. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCK View Post
    I have an 01 330 e46. I have an iPhone 5 connected and use the steering controls. I used the silver line duo ($110) and then apples lightning adapter ($40). It works exactly as I need AND charges the phone.
    I know it's an old thread, but hopefully you are still watching it

    Do you have a DIY on how you have accomplished this?

    Thanks,

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    I have a 2006 325Ci convertible with the CD53 E46 BUSINESS CD. I pulled the radio to fix the broken on/off mount and found the radio had the manufactured date of 05 September AP.
    The car has production date of 09/05 also. The radio P/NO 65.12-6 961 214 which I didn't see listed in the above thread. Mine has the black insulator like the 215 shown above and looks identical other than it having the 214 instead of the 215 in the part number. I was wondering if the 215 is the last number in this production run and how many like mine might have lower numbering in the part number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmarco View Post
    Production Date of a BMW Business CD53 Radio unit is the worst indicator to go by when looking for a unit that has integrated AUX IN or MP3 CD playback capabilities.

    DO NOT buy a radio for Aux In or MP3 CD playback based on the car's production date or radio's production date alone.

    You will NEED to acquire the Part Number of that CD53 Radio to properly assess what that unit is capable of.

    Based on the fact that BMW started production of CD53 Aux In Radio in the late summer of 2003, the general consensus is that E46 cars made after mid year 2003 should have Aux In capable CD53 Radios but this is proven time and time again to not be the case. Some folks with late 2003 and even early 2004 production year cars usually discover that their car's CD53 Radios DO NOT have a working Aux Input capability.


    Many of us own these cars as second and third hand cars so there is no telling what the previous owners removed and installed from the cars.

    Also CD53 Radios that failed would have been replaced under warranty and that car could have received other CD53 Radio units with later or earlier production dates and P/Ns. This is the case with many 2004 and 2005 CD53 radios that had MP3 CD playback.

    So if you have a Production Year 2003 BMW E46 or are buying a radio or car from the 2003 and 2004 Production Year stock there is absolutely NO guarantee that that car currently has a CD53 radio with the Aux In feature.


    Below I have compiled a list that will help you in deciding what to buy based on your needs.


    BMW Business CD53 Units manufactured and dispatched for the USA E46 cars from 1998 to 2007 with their respective Part Number, Production Period, and what each unit is capable of :

    1998 to 2001 E46 3 Series vehicles

    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 909 883 iPod Data Capable
    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 909 882 iPod Data Capable
    Blaupunkt, Part Number 6512-6 902 661 iPod Data Capable

    NOTE: iPod Data Capable is ONLY if the car is Prewired in the trunk for the CD Changer - You can also add Aux Input ONLY thru an iPod Data Kit like the USA Spec PA12 or the DICE iPod kits


    2001 to 2007 E46 3 Series vehicles including the E46 M3


    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 916 241 (July 2001) iPod Data Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 915 711 (Sep 2001) Ipod Data Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 919 072 (Dec 2001-Jun 2002)iPod Data, Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 921 963 (July 2002-Jan 2003)iPod Data, Sirius Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 927 902 (Feb 2003-Aug 2003)iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 10-6 927 903 (RMFD thru Dec 2006) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 941 505 (Jan 2004 - Sept 2004) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 941 506 (RMFD thru Dec 2007) iPod Data, Aux and Sirius Capable

    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 943 429 (Oct 2004 -Sept 2005) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 943 430 (RMFD thru 2008) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable
    Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 961 215 (Dec 2005-May 2006) iPod Data, Aux, Sirius and MP3 Capable

    NOTE: RMFD = Re-manufactured/Refurbished.
    If you find any BMW Business CD53 Radio Unit with a production year date sticker on it that is later than these production dates corresponding to each part number unit (IE. a year date that is 05, 06, 07, 08) it is most certain that those units are re-manufactured/refurbished (RFMD) under warranty and re-labeled to reflect the date of re-manufacture. This is especially true for the factory recalled MP3-capable BMW Part Number 65. 12-6 943 429 unit which is always re-labeled to become BMW Part Number 65. 12-6 943 430 after refurbishment.



    From that information we see that only three possible BMW Business CD53 Radio Parts Number for the E46 cars has MP3 playback (along with Sirius Integration and Aux-In Data function)

    Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 and it's Re-manufactured/Refurbished counterpart CD53 units with Part Number 65.12-6 943 430. The BMW Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 CD53s were plagued with problems and there was a factory recall of these units at one point of their hectic production lifespan hence why you come across many BMW Part Number: 65.12-6 943 430 CD53s on eBay today. These 430 units are Re-manufactured/Refurbished versions of the original Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 Business CD53 Radios even though the sellers of these units either don't know this or won't mention that to you if they do.

    AND


    Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 will also give your car MP3 playback ability. These were superior post stock original production units that were made on the last production E46 coupes, convertibles and M3 cars from late 2005 until late 2006/ 2007. If you come across one of these on eBay for under $300 then immediately buy it! These will give you the full capacity and digital function of all the previous CD53 Radios including MP3 playback and it lacks the refurbished and buggy history that the Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 units come with.


    The way the parts number work is that when a said unit gets re-manufactured or refurbished BMW changed the parts number by one up from the original number so say if my parts number unit 65-12-6-943-429 got sent back to the dealership and got refurbished. BMW would restock the same said unit after refurbishment with a parts number of 65-12-6-943-430.

    The parts number last three digits increases by 1. So 429 becomes 430 or a P/N 65. 12-6 941 505 radio would now become P/N 65. 12-6 941 506 after refurbishment.

    Which is why when you browse REALOEM you will see a lot of strange new P/N come up and some common P/N are not there for the Alpine Business CD53 Radios.

    It is possible to find a refurbished P/N with a really late production date like say Dec 2007 or May 2008. Because of this the Production Date of the later years CD53 will tell you little information on what that CD53 unit is capable of. You will need the Parts Number to find out the true identity of that CD53 unit.

    NOTE:
    They are lots of sellers that try to bump up the price of their Re-manufactured/Re-furbished Part Number: 65.12-6 943 430 units because they will tell you it has a late production date like NOV 05 or something like JAN 07 and the quality or newness is better.

    This is to rope you into buying a refurbished unit for more money than those units are actually worth relative to the original Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 units (which can come with bugs and can be pretty much something you may want to avoid).

    I would try to seek out a Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 unit where ever you decide to buy your unit from.

    Even if it a BMW Dealership make sure you ask for the Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 unit since they may charge you the same price as a 65.12-6 943 430 unit of over $1,000 for it.




    Here are some pictures of the Alpine Business CD53 Part Number: 65.12-6 961 215 Radio and the label location where the P/N and Production Date are;





    Here is another pristine unit made in May 2006:








    In these pictures below you will see how this slick eBay seller tries to peel away the Remanufactured Parts# sticker to reveal the original Parts# beneath so that he can bump up the price. He is selling his units for $309 and $319 based on the prod dates of NOV 04 and FEB 05 respectively claiming the later build date deserves the price increase when both of these units are most likely refurbished versions of their bug ridden/factory recalled Part Number: 65.12-6 943 429 original units. Not all 429 units went bad. Those that did, went bad early on and already got refurbished to factory new and replaced as 430 units. So buying a 429 unit today will be perfectly okay.





    A general rule of thumb for visually inspecting if the unit has MP3 digital capabilities is that the Business CD53 Radio that play MP3 files usually has the black trim along the same side as the pin17 connector-input that is in the back.





    And it should ALWAYS be an Alpine-made unit that has the MODE button in the place of the older Blaupunkt CD button under the AM/FM buttons.

    My part number is 65-12-6-919-072. Made in Japan. And the part number 82-11-0-149-389 aux doesn't work. What unit should I get?

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    Bumping an old thread. I just pulled my CD43 to take a look at the part number. It's 65 12 6 915 711, which according to OP is ipod data capable. I was hoping that since it has all of the pins, it would be capable of aux. Apparently not. There is no mention of whether the various radios are support telephone / bluetooth. Does anyone know?
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    Hey guys, I purchased a Alpine, Model CD53, Part Number 65. 12-6 919 072.
    My car is a 2001 E46. I purchased the aux cord adapter but it won't fit. Also, the "mode" button only goes between Cd and Radio, it doesn't cross an "aux" option. Any help???

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    I know this is an old thread, however, asking for some advice. I recently picked up a 2001 BMW 325 CI with came with an Alpine Business MD53 (P/N: 65. 12-6 902 132) player (I have no idea who listens to MD now anyway). I see there is a 6 CD Changer in the boot but doesnt seem to work. Also, the mode button toggles between Radio and MD only and doesnt even show the CD option.

    Been trying to avoid replacing it with one of those flashy units available here in Hong Kong as I love the classy no nonsense look of the cabin. Any advice on having AUX connectivity? I know my last option is to pick up a used radio on eBay, but prefer something to be done locally before I source from the net
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