The definitive E36 LTW Spoiler Replica Thread

[m3j0n]

yes, lester is the same company that manufactures the Abrahams wing... what did you end up paying for the high rise ltw wing from schmiedmann.com with shipping? And are you sure it comes with the gurney lip?

[busterhax]

You are correct. I got the high rise with additional gurney for $460 shipped from the Netherlands to the United states. Arrived in 2 business days. Friday cant come soon enough, can't wait to see it painted and mounted.

yes, lester is the same company that manufactures the Abrahams wing... what did you end up paying for the high rise ltw wing from schmiedmann.com with shipping? And are you sure it comes with the gurney lip?

See above.

[propcar]

Yes, have not decided whether I am going to throw it on the base or the top, I am leaning towards throwing it on top though.

on the top, in theory it would make more sense aerodynamically as one of the benefits of gurney flap is eliminating some drag on larger air foils... although I think at some point I've seen the gurney flap on both top/bottom. Not sure if this was a BMW thing or just someone who wanted to go for that look.

[busterhax]

on the top, in theory it would make more sense aerodynamically as one of the benefits of gurney flap is eliminating some drag on larger air foils... although I think at some point I've seen the gurney flap on both top/bottom. Not sure if this was a BMW thing or just someone who wanted to go for that look.

Yeah I believe the GTs had them on the top and bottom. I had a german brochure for them at one point.

[SH330CI]

Is it just like a standard trunk lip spoiler or does it look like the oem gourneys?

If it is a trunk lip it is way smaller than the likes of say an e46 trunk lip, so I would assume it is indeed a gurney and not a lip spoiler. It was under the often sold together tab of the wing when I purchased it

[illmatik]

Do they sell the gurney flap separately?

My Abrahams high rise is at the body shop with my E36 as we speak, but I have always wanted the gurney flaps too.

[busterhax]

Do they sell the gurney flap separately?

My Abrahams high rise is at the body shop with my E36 as we speak, but I have always wanted the gurney flaps too.

Yeah, I found them on the site. It looks like it's just a low profile trunk lip.

More info on doing it can be found here
http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...-Pics-included

[SH330CI]

Very happy with the end result. Have not installed the gurney yet as installing the wing was more time consuming than I thought. Man getting the bolts to line up were a pain on the wing. Should have that on tomorrow.

[notMpowered]

I've always been much more a fan of the high on coupes, and low on sedans. Looks great though.

[SH330CI]

I've always been much more a fan of the high on coupes, and low on sedans. Looks great though.

Thanks. Another update the gurney appeared to be a little too long for this wing so I think maybe it was a standalone item. Weird even though schmiedmann listed it as a recommended item under the wing when I purchased it. No big deal. I cut it to size. Now sanding the edges smooth and applying plastidip to the edges.

[m3j0n]

Very happy with the end result. Have not installed the gurney yet as installing the wing was more time consuming than I thought. Man getting the bolts to line up were a pain on the wing. Should have that on tomorrow.

FL dealer tag in CT? lol

[SH330CI]

Temp tag til it gets registered.

[notMpowered]

Wing is on.
DSC_0620 by Chris West, on Flickr
DSC_0629 by Chris West, on Flickr
DSC_0637 by Chris West, on Flickr

[D Unit]

Update, I received the gt wing from schmiedmann.com and it does appear that they use the same manufacturer as abrahams motorsport. The packaging, appearance looks to be identical to the wings I have seen on threads related to their wings, down to the betalink adhesive provided in the kits. I have sent my wing off to paint after test fitting and ensuring everything was lining up properly. Should have the painted wing installed by the end of the week and will post pictures here.

Thanks!!!

yes, lester is the same company that manufactures the Abrahams wing... what did you end up paying for the high rise ltw wing from schmiedmann.com with shipping? And are you sure it comes with the gurney lip?

Thanks for confirming too! That put me over the edge to buy with confidence!

I placed my order a few minutes ago... $391.05 + $54.73 (shipping) + $10.03 (credit car fee) = $455.81.

[busterhax]

I ordered two. One for me and one for a friend. Came to be $413 each shipped. Got them yesterday. Kind of disappointed with the fitment based on a quick mock up in my living room but we will see once I install.

They also have the rieger lip for $130

[crc13]

Anyone have instructions on installation of this? I just received mine yesterday, sent it off to paint, and while I m waiting, thought I'd drill the holes. I thought a template would come with it but it didn't. Anyone have a template or some detailed instructions on the install?

[busterhax]

Anyone have instructions on installation of this? I just received mine yesterday, sent it off to paint, and while I m waiting, thought I'd drill the holes. I thought a template would come with it but it didn't. Anyone have a template or some detailed instructions on the install?

If yours came with the black pieces for mounting, use those. If it didn't, depending on the design you could put the base on your trunk and drill a pilot through the base's hole from the top.

[crc13]

It did come with those. It is from Abrahams. How does it work?

[busterhax]

It did come with those. It is from Abrahams. How does it work?

Yours didn't come with the little pamphlet of instructions in a bunch of different languages?

[D Unit]

I ordered two. One for me and one for a friend. Came to be $413 each shipped. Got them yesterday. Kind of disappointed with the fitment based on a quick mock up in my living room but we will see once I install.

They also have the rieger lip for $130

Just curious busterhax, but why the disappointment? Is it sag or not aligning correctly?

Are the majority of you guys installing it first to check fitment and then taking it to get painted?

[busterhax]

No. I got a paper with a bunch of different languages, but nothing that says how to install it. States how to paint it, but not install

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Wth? Why is the Schliemann way less money? I feel like I just got screwed?

Mine came with 2 or 3 papers. Probably because you're ordering from Denmark.

Just curious busterhax, but why the disappointment? Is it sag or not aligning correctly?

Are the majority of you guys installing it first to check fitment and then taking it to get painted?

No sag at all. Looks great from a couple feet. But when you're up close with a magnifying glass, the seams between the top and risers aren't as good as OEM. When I install, i'll be able to apply more torque to it to align the pieces before tightening so we will see. However, I see similar fitment "defects" on the pics others have posted.

[OMGITSKEVIN]

Untitled by Kevin Fernandez, on Flickr

Going strong after a few track days, great product!

[notMpowered]

Awesome photo.

[SH330CI]

No. I got a paper with a bunch of different languages, but nothing that says how to install it. States how to paint it, but not install

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Wth? Why is the Schliemann way less money? I feel like I just got screwed?

I literally posted that to save people a ton of money vs abrahams. It's the same exact wing. Oh well.

As for the complaints for the fitment. It is not oem quality fitment. But not ebay quality fitment. It is the happy medium to not shell out over $1000 for an unpainted oem wing. It will not fit properly without attaching the base to your car loosely first and then getting the wing on there. If you need detailed instructions how to install it and get the wing flexed into place pm me. That being said, if I come across an oem at a decent price, I will buy one. But then I'll have to remove the brake light from inside the car.

[notMpowered]

The oem gt wing is the most common, and that comes with no brake light. I'm assuming he thinks he got screwed by Abrahams for paying like 50 bucks extra over schmeidmann. Hardly something to cry about. Abrahams is a great vendor and was the only option for these for years. Just cause someone came a long and undercut them a bit (mostly in part because it's cheaper for them to get in the first place) hardly constitutes getting screwed.
If you need instructions to install it take it to a body shop. It's 4 screws and some glue.