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    Quote Originally Posted by weaksauce View Post
    props
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    Good to see the car finally..
    yea i know I remember speaking to you, M5James and BigM62 about it back when it was just a thought.

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    ooo. i like this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 930chas View Post
    Very cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tptrsn View Post
    Awesome!

    How do you have your MS setup, bank fire I'm guessing unless you're using MS3+MS3X? Otherwise, if you're using MS2Extra or something maybe it's possible to be on sequential, but I can't remember. . .

    I've gotta say, the M62 in my 540i is one of my favorite engines I've ever had. It's just a really sweet motor. It would be an awesome beast in an e30!
    The MS is setup for wasted spark. Its not a problem for me tho most would argue sequential is better. Yes, so far i am loving this motor. I dont know it that well yet so with the aluminum block and such i am being rather careful.

    Quote Originally Posted by So Live View Post
    Killer build dude!! Ill be waiting for more pics...

    I just stumbled on some info on this motor swap in e30s and im pretty excited about it. I think m60/62 might be the next DD project haha. So yeah more info on drive shafts/motor mounts etc would be interesting!
    The motor mounts were fabbed but very straight forward. I have some info for you or anyone that wants to do this swap, I will post it later with pics. Its something i didnt find out until i fitted the engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by E34Kevin View Post
    Thats insane, excited to see more!
    Thanks. more to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by DUDMD View Post
    any updates yet?
    Im out of town at the moment (business turned vacation). I will post up more when i get back after new year.

    To everyone Happy New year and more to come after!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lughed View Post

    No problem. I wish i could disclose more info about the entire build but the car will be published in a magazine so the info here will be somewhat limited to the things that the mag wont show. But i can show more pics of the manifolds which i will do when i get back in town.
    Thanks, i just need to figure out the best way to get the drivers exhaust outlet to the front of the motor without it being lower than the oil pan if it's possible at all. I have no idea if you have more clearance than my E34 m60, and your atternator is water-cooled, right? Or did you swap in an aircooled m60 one?
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    So I'm guessing it's MS2/Extra then? That has to be a pretty elaborate setup for your coil drivers even for wasted spark.

    I take it your injectors are setup four each on two banks?

    Pretty awesome that you are doing this, I can't wait for the vids with sound!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tptrsn View Post
    So I'm guessing it's MS2/Extra then? That has to be a pretty elaborate setup for your coil drivers even for wasted spark.

    I take it your injectors are setup four each on two banks?

    Pretty awesome that you are doing this, I can't wait for the vids with sound!
    Yes its MS2/extra and yes the injectors do have a bank setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughed View Post
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    Thanks for the pics, i really needed the manifold pics to decide on how i should build mine. These look pretty well designed.
    I don't know if you already mentioned the size of the pipe on the manifold or not, if not then what is it?
    If you don't mind me asking of course. I have a feeling that's about 1.75"ID, but just seeing what it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DUDMD View Post
    Thanks for the pics, i really needed the manifold pics to decide on how i should build mine. These look pretty well designed.
    I don't know if you already mentioned the size of the pipe on the manifold or not, if not then what is it?
    If you don't mind me asking of course. I have a feeling that's about 1.75"ID, but just seeing what it really is.
    Yea they are 1.75 into a 2.25.

    Is your motor being done in an e34 or e39? If so the pipe routing may need to go a complete different way. I cant picture in my head what spacing is under the heads in a 5 series. Whats the specs on the HX51? your going with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughed View Post
    Yea they are 1.75 into a 2.25.

    Is your motor being done in an e34 or e39? If so the pipe routing may need to go a complete different way. I cant picture in my head what spacing is under the heads in a 5 series. Whats the specs on the HX51? your going with?
    HX52 is a 67mm comp, 71mm exhaust

    Spacing under the heads isn't that great at all, the engine bay might be just a bit wider than the E30. Your layout should be very doable in the E34 bay.

    It's going into an E34 540i/6 m60, somehow I think you have more clearance for the drivers side crossover pipe than I do, since the PS, Alternator, steering box, are all packed very tightly together in my car. I really want to do the front crossover pipe, so I might have get very creative on the routing, as going around the transmission is too long of a route and isn't as efficient in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUDMD View Post
    HX52 is a 67mm comp, 71mm exhaust

    Spacing under the heads isn't that great at all, the engine bay might be just a bit wider than the E30. Your layout should be very doable in the E34 bay.

    It's going into an E34 540i/6 m60, somehow I think you have more clearance for the drivers side crossover pipe than I do, since the PS, Alternator, steering box, are all packed very tightly together in my car. I really want to do the front crossover pipe, so I might have get very creative on the routing, as going around the transmission is too long of a route and isn't as efficient in any way.

    To save space, I'm thinking of just building log manifolds with 3 tees and 1 90 degree elbow on the ends near the fire wall.
    I forgot you have a steering box. That takes up alot more space as appose to a rack n pinion. Your engine mounts are further towards the front than my fabbed mounts too. In any case, dont do t's if you go with a log. Try and do y's instead. It will make a big difference.

    Im waiting to get my hands on a 540 one day and fab up something. This why im working to see what works for this motor.

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    I'll try the Y's first then, there should be at least enough space for them on the driver's side. The passenger side has a ton of room.

    When is your car going to be up, ready, and tuned?
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    Im working on it. Right now its blocked in by snow. I have to get the harness back in. I need an oil cooler. The windows need to go back in. Little things but i have been so busy with other things in these hard times.

    Im thinking about just bringing in a tuner but i would love to finish off the build by at least giving it a street tune myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUDMD View Post
    Any updates for this last week?
    Nah, nothing really to report on, engine wise. The car is still snowed in. To get it out i would have to dig out about a 25 foot track of thick ice and snow. I did just finish welding up my custom strut brace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM62 View Post
    I have to stand up and cheer you DIY'ers (a loud resounding applause). I wish I had the skills to fab up a turbo for my 540i. I will have to settle on a CF for my 800 hp.
    Thanks but this is one way i make ends although this particular car is being built in DIY fashion, Sweden style.

    I am hoping to prove something with this build. Whether or not the aluminum blocks can handle a turbo app. I see no reason why not but most people find doubt without facts. Thats why im taking this on with a completely stock engine. Other than the fact i didnt want a Chevy in my car. Hopefully everything will go as planned and we will see the rise of the turbo BMW V8's.

    Quote Originally Posted by DUDMD View Post
    Shit that sucks about new york being a snow hog this year.
    Yea it does suck but in a way its keeping me grounded with this build. This is not something i want to rush at this stage. I pretty much dealing with the unknown so the snow days are helping pace myself and get things right. Hopefully by the end of the week i can have everything ready to get the car out when it clears up outside.
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    I am very curious, what kinda HP numbers are you expecting with this build? I would love to turbo the m62 in my 840ci!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswervin69 View Post
    I am very curious, what kinda HP numbers are you expecting with this build? I would love to turbo the m62 in my 840ci!
    What i hope for is above 400 whp . Its set on spring pressure at 4.5 right now. I think this system is capable of making big, fat hp at fairly low boost but theres no way i can do this with a stock motor . Basicly what i have built is limited by the motor so i will go as far as i feel is safe. As is, it will make more power than the SC systems out there. What year is your 840?

    One issue i have is the t66 turbo. It works better at 20+ psi and has very late spool characteristics. At this low of boost im hoping the v8 can get this turbo to perform the way it could. On top of that the turbo was carried over from my m30 which i had a split design so yea it has a twin scroll turbine .

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenethirty View Post
    looks good man
    Thanks.
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