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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Someone named "autobahn' emailed this link to me tonight. I am trying to reach the owner, but, for now, this is all we know. We do know of an unidentified Baur out in the Cincinnati area, but it is a different (Hennarot) color. This could be a NEW FIND! Most of the Baurs that we have found tend to be on the coasts, or in the South. They seem to be few and far between in the Great Heartland. So we look forward to learning more about this one, and maybe that can lead us to the elusive Hennarot one!



    Thank you, autobahn!

    Who is Our Man In Cincinnati? Adam? JR?


    Stay tuned.






    Here is the craiglslist ad, posted today:

    RARE 1982 BMW E-21 323i - $6200 (Northside)

    An extremely rare BMW for sale. Only 115,000 miles. Runs excellent.
    Its a 2.3 liter 6 cylinder with a manual 5 speed transmission.
    As you can see it has the Baur roof!
    Car comes with an extra set of BMW BBS style wheels with snow tires mounted and balanced.

    Call 513-591-2629






    http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/3087230669.html

    Thanks again to the alert Baurspotter, autobahn!

    The thumbnails have two pics of the other Baur in the Cincinnati area, noted above. It is from the Kettering Ohio area, and was spotted at the Ault Park Concours event in Cincinnati by E21Adam in 2009.


    More Baurs here:
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/baurs-for-sale.html
    I just got an email from Tim B., the guy who alerted Jalopnik to the Cincinnati Baur. He has sent along a few pics, and said it looks better in person, the interior is pretty good, it does appear to be the dogleg transmission (although he was not able to drive it to confirm this), and the seller seems to be a pretty good guy.

    Thanks, Tim!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/67013016@N07/7455476332/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/67013016@N07/7455474202/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/67013016@N07/7455472404/
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    Tom
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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    E21 Baur parts on E-bay

    Targa top trunk supports on E-bay
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E21-Baur...1dffa9&vxp=mtr
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    Thanks to Baur owner Jeff D. for the heads up on this ebay listing for the Baur in New Mexico. we have previously posted the craigs list ad for this car on our blog.

    Stroker engine, dogleg transmission, white. Are you reading this, Charbel?



    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251102761409&viewitem= &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123

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    This is a RARE BMW E21 323i Baur cabrio. These cars weren't imported in the US (hence, rare) -- they are gray market. That means someone personally imported them at great expense (federalization costs A LOT).

    Baur (Stuttgart Germany) modified a limited number of these cars, and NONE of them were sold to the US market.

    This car was imported to the Bay area, and for the past ~9 years it's been in NM. It is a RUST FREE garage queen with a clean, straight body.

    It is a manual transmission, manual windows, power mirrors.

    White with black tops, black cloth Recaro seats.

    It has a 5 speed dogleg manual transmission -- most people have never seen (let alone driven) such a tranny -- reverse is where first gear normally is; first is where second normally is, etc. The transmission adds to the rarity of this car.

    The engine is an M20 from an early 90's 325i, which was rebuilt with an Ireland Engineering 3.0L kit (9.8:1 pistons), Schrick 272 cam, and +1mm valves. Big bore throttle body from Ed Mazula, Cold air intake. The engine management/DME is Motronic, from a 1990 325i.


    I relocated the battery to the trunk to improve the weight distribution.

    I purchased the engine with ~20k miles on it after the car it was in was rear-ended and totaled. For more information on the engine, look up the (infamous) 3.0L stroker by davelength on the BMW E21/E30 boards.


    This is a lightweight, fun car. This car has never been tracked or autocrossed while in my possession -- it is too rare for such activities. Owned and maintained by a BMWCCA member (me).

    New parts:
    Distributor cap and rotor
    Alternator
    Performance spark plug wires
    O2 sensor
    Crank position sensor
    Battery
    Hoses
    Clutch
    Clutch slave

    Guibo
    Engine mounts
    Gaskets

    Fuel injectors were cleaned and refurbed

    Body has just over 100k miles on it.

    Has stainless brake lines and stainless Ansa exhaust
    Python alarm with proximity sensor

    Extras included (if you are interested):
    Extra targa top (try finding one these days)
    Complete original 323i engine (and engine stand)
    A/C from a 320i (not installed)
    MANY E21 and E30 parts"

    Paul, the owner, is known to us.

    Posted here also:
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/p/baurs-for-sale.html

    Scroll down a little for the original craigs list ad.

    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    BWR PWR!

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    Baur at Tedfest Identified!

    Thanks, once again, to HarryPR and some folks at the recent Tedfest in Ontario, we have been able to identify another North American Baur: 1982 e21 315 Baur, baur plate #4446!

    Welcome to Peter C. of Canada, the proud owner!Peter told me that it spent most of its life in CA, and came to Canada about 5 years ago. The engine has been rebuilt. We will work on getting his car onto the International Baur Registry.


    And HarryPR.... you da Man, once again! Thanks, Harry!
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    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Baurs and E21 Legion

    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    I was out numbered 6:1 it was great to meet al ofl you .
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    You held your own, though, Ed!

    http://www.hittingredline.com/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1WF4tgtCudM

    It was a great turnout, and a great show, and something for us to build on!

    Full steam ahead!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Ok, here are a few posts that I have put up about the recent Vintage at Saratoga, July 14, 2012. As you may know by now, it was a great success with about 100 beautiful vintage cars on the grounds of the Saratoga Automobile Museum. The Museum, btw, was running a great exhibit "Moonshine to Millionaires: NASCAR History, Heroes & Technology", which is worth seeing in its own right!

    We also had the greatest turnout of Baurs that we have seen in the US to date: 6 E21 TC1 Baurs, and 1 E30 TC2 Baur. We are still trying to track down the report that there was ANOTHER Baur present but parked separately due to a late arrival. That would make an unbelieveable EIGHT Baurs! That is a phenomenal showing for the E21 Baurs! Thanks to all who attended... we have set a high bar that will be tough to top!

    But we are just getting started!

    So, without further ado....
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/vintage-at-saratoga-smashing-success.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/vintage-at-saratoga-smashing-success-ii.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/vintage-at-saratoga-z1-disappearing.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/vintage-at-saratoga-iv-baurs.html

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/hitting-redline-video-hits-vintage-at.html

    More to come!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Baurspotters Alert!

    Baurspotters Alert! Unidentified Baur spotted in NH MA area!



    I found a post from a few months back in r3vlimited stating that there was an E21 Baur in his shop recently. I have sent the person who posted this a PM, and I await his response.

    In the meantime, I wanted to alert our Baurspotters in the NH/MA area---- yes I am thinking of YOU, THE POOLEMAN!---- as well as anyone else up that way to be on the lookout for this Baur:









    It is not an Alpina, of course, but it apparently has some Alpina features, as you can readily see.
    here is what the poster (kway from Nashua NH, btw) said about the car:
    There's a nice e21 323i Baur at my current shop as I write this. Open lug Alpinas, originally Hennarot but some fool painted it Brilliantrot at some point. I'll snap a few camera phone pics next week and post them in here.
    Here's that 323i I was talking about. I'm not an e21 guy, not a Baur guy, but I have to say this is a pretty cool car (not a genuine Alpina, just has some goodies on it).

    That post is from March 2012, so it is a couple of months old. If anyone has any info on this Baur, please email me or post it in E21 Bimmerforums.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    BWR PWR!

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    I know this car I saw it at German Car day in Boston I sent you the owner info and sent him links to your blog, The car has a full Alpina appearance package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEPOOLEMAN View Post
    I know this car I saw it at German Car day in Boston I sent you the owner info and sent him links to your blog, The car has a full Alpina appearance package.
    Hmmm. I just went through my files..... I dont seem to have it on this computer... perhaps on my work computer. I will keep looking.... how long ago did you send it? German Car Day.... is that at the Lars Andersen Museum?

    If you still have it, can you send it along again... just in case?



    Please.
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Hmmm. I just went through my files..... I dont seem to have it on this computer... perhaps on my work computer. I will keep looking.... how long ago did you send it? German Car Day.... is that at the Lars Andersen Museum?

    If you still have it, can you send it along again... just in case?



    Please.
    Tom, Yest it was at Larz Anderson I do have have his contact information and I'll send to you via E-mail.
    He got to the show late and was unable to enter, I had forgotten my SD card for my camera and the internal memory was full so no pics for the pooleman.
    I am not sure if the owner will be attending BMW day next month at Larz Anderson, I am going to try to go I'll also get Rodney B to attend and David with the mintgrun 2002.
    Anyone from the Saratoga show who would like to Attend PM me and I'll send you all the info.
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    Tom,

    I emailed you a photo of Wil's plate here in ATL. Not sure if I have the correct email addy.

    BH

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryPR View Post
    There are two currently in Atlanta, BruceH's (72175) and its twin, this one:






    Can't remember the owner's name (standing next to the car), but he is a great enthusiast and a very nice guy. We talked for quite a bit when I met him and saw the car at Road Atlanta last year during O'fest.

    Curiously, the third Atlanta Baur, mine (which is currently in Deltona, FL but will be back in Atlanta in a couple of months), was also originally Kastanienrot. I would love to bring it back to that color. Then there would be triplets in ATL!
    At long last, we can now assign a correct Baur plate number to Wil Bryant's beauty!

    Thanks to the efforts of BruceH we now know that this is Baur #3596.... and ... since it is not listed on either the International Baur Registry, nor on any of the Baur lists that we have, it constitutes a NEW FIND! Even though we have known about about it, as the attached post notes, since way back at the beginning!

    Thank you, BruceH!

    OOPS! I guess that post isn't dated here, but it is from 12/10/2010 in this thread.... page 3! Thank you, HarryPR!

    Quote Originally Posted by Baur View Post
    First off all: *WOW* It's really stunning how many Baurs turn up in this thread.

    Before we get any further, a picture of Bruce&Will's cars:


    About the ASC: I think that just as "Schneiders" in the Netherlands, they bought a frame from Baur. From what I can see, it's all the same.

    As it may come in handy, here the details about the 25 US-Spec Baur's:


    As you can see, many of them went to Canada. But maybe more interesting is that "Hautmann" sold two US-cars. That is a German dealer. And he also sold...74120. Maybe that car was sold new to the US? It is for sure that he exported many of the cars sold by him. There are now (including 74120) 3 cars known that were sold by Hautmann. The 73881 went to Colombia and the 74110...that came from the US (now in Belgium, via Great-Brtittain)!

    I'm very curious how many we will find via this thread!

    Gr Jeroen
    And here is that famous pic of BruceH and Wil's Baurs together. Thanks again, BruceH!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 07-25-2012 at 07:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    You are welcome.

    What is the current Baur count in the USA?

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    The coun
    t was 80, but it needs to be reviewed. I will try to get to it this week.

    And I have anotherquestion for you. I came across this a while back:

    "Bruce from 2007 bimmerforums: "Don't forget WilBryant's and bill Rutger's Baurs will appreciate too. Between the 5 of us we prob have 5 of the top 10 Baurs in the US. There is another one dying a slow death here in
    [FONT='segoe UI', verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]ATL[/FONT]
    . It is also a 320/6. "

    Who is Bill Rutger? Is that another Baur somewhere, or is it included in the count already
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Who is Bill Rutger? Is that another Baur somewhere, or is it included in the count already[/COLOR][/LEFT][/COLOR][/LEFT]
    Bill Rutger lives in Northern MN and is active in the e28 world. I have an old email addy and I've reached out to him. We'll see what happens.

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    Minnesota 1981 Owner: BillinMN
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    323i








    We know BillinMN!

    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    At long last, we can now assign a correct Baur plate number to Wil Bryant's beauty!

    Thanks to the efforts of BruceH we now know that this is Baur #3596.... and ... since it is not listed on either the International Baur Registry, nor on any of the Baur lists that we have, it constitutes a NEW FIND! Even though we have known about about it, as the attached post notes, since way back at the beginning!

    Thank you, BruceH!

    OOPS! I guess that post isn't dated here, but it is from 12/10/2010 in this thread.... page 3! Thank you, HarryPR!



    And here is that famous pic of BruceH and Wil's Baurs together. Thanks again, BruceH!
    It is up in Baurspotting!
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/an-old-new-find-wil-bryants-baur-3596.html
    Last edited by tomscat1; 07-25-2012 at 11:44 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    WTF Dept: E21 Baur Stretch Limo .... THIS IS NOT A MISPRINT! ;)



    Just when you thought you have seen everything!




    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/wtf-dept-baur-stretch-limo.html
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post


    Just when you thought you have seen everything!




    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/2012/07/wtf-dept-baur-stretch-limo.html
    They have Red Necks in Poland as well I see ! That's no pro fab job on that vehicle.
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    They cut 2 Baurs to make that? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceH View Post
    They cut 2 Baurs to make that? Wow.
    It looks like a normal E21 and a Baur were merged as one the top in front section looks to be solid roof and the back door looks to be the same size as a normal front. I'd like to see it with the Targa top out.
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    Do we have the Baur plate number on that one yet?



    This limo gives me hope that we can yet save this one!!
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    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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