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  1. #251
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    I'll try again to get in touch with him to see if he can shed some light on this.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by msbehmane36 View Post
    well the 82 323 does sound like our baur. Has all the goodies that were on it. Didnt get the henna one with it though.
    This looks like that other ad we found for your car:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com


    This one is from May, 2006. I can't remember the date of the other one.

    It is definitely getting harder to find new undiscovered US Baurs... I keep coming up with stuff like this about cars we already know about. For example' I just came across a post on uship for transporting a car from Estes Colorado to Portland, Oregon in 2009. Triple black, nice looking car.... looked familiar.... Then I recognized the color of the truck in the background! It is the same car posted in here by sefb222 in portland, back around page 8 or 9 of this thread!

    So, we may have found most of them.... Now we just have to pin some more of them down as to current ownership and whereabouts!
    Tom
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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
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    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
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    1981 BMW Baur ad in Roundel magazine

    http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...E21March81.jpg


    Comments welcome.

    I got a chuckle out of it.



    As best as I can tell..... The clues are: it appeared in March 1981...... And the person to contact is "Miss April Wurst" (April First).


    I believe it was an April Fool' s Joke!!!!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 04-20-2011 at 07:53 AM.
    Tom
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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    i say give her a call.
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    Here you go, Tom D ...... the customer services number and address:

    BMW GB
    BMW House,
    Ellesfield Avenue
    Bracknell
    Berkshire
    RG12 4TA

    01344 426565

    Have a go at it! Good luck with all that! Let us know what you find out!


    Oops. The number is actually 0870 5050160. Or at least it was the last time I checked.

    My bad.
    Last edited by tomscat1; 04-18-2011 at 10:26 PM.
    Tom
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    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
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    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscat1 View Post
    Yes, Harry, you did post pics of all three of Lawrence's cars back in February 2011. See posts # 219-23 of this thread around p. 8 or 9.
    Since the pic of the 2002 was taken at Lime Rock, I am curious if Lawrence saw the other Baur (above) whose pic was also taken at Lime Rock (September 2010). Not sure what date Lawrence was there.
    Any way to pin that down?
    Hey,

    That's my 82 baur. I was at the lime rock historics on Sunday Labor Day weekend last year. Same car that was on the Martha's Vinyard Ferry.

    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3#post20882193

    John M
    Last edited by JMinNJ; 04-19-2011 at 12:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMinNJ View Post
    Hey,

    That's my 82 baur. I was at the lime rock historics on Sunday Labor Day weekend last year. Same car that was on the Martha's Vinyard Ferry.

    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3#post20882193

    John M
    Bingo! Thank you, John. Another mystery solved! Nice looking car, btw!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    Ok, I finally figured out how to properly post that Baur ad in my blog.

    Gotta love that Brit wit.

    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    Just a little update.... on the Baurhunting, including this one, in case you missed it with all the Holidays, etc.:
    This mystery has been solved! We posted this pic a couple of times in the "Baur TC1s in the US " thread in bimmerforums, (February 23, 2011 and April 16, 2011) without any success in identifying it. Then, on April 19, 2011, John M from New Jersey posted this:


    "Hey,


    That's my 82 baur. I was at the lime rock historics on Sunday Labor Day weekend last year. Same car that was on the Martha's Vinyard [FONT='segoe UI', verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif][FONT='segoe UI', verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Ferry[/FONT][/FONT].


    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...3#post20882193


    John M"


    Thank you, John, for helping us clear that up! Once again, it appears that we are closing in on at least locating and, in some cases, actually identifying many of the US Baurs. We have reports on roughly 75 US TC1 Baurs... and many of those reports remain just that: reports. We have attached pins to the Google map showing where they have been reported, and there are still many of those that have not been further identified.


    Some of those 'reports', as in this case, have turned out to be cars that were already known and identified to us... and we just needed some confirmation on that. The Baur belonging to msbehame36 is another example. That car has turned up in 3 or 4 different places, advertised for sale a couple of times over the past few years in NJ and PA. Conkitchen's white 'mystery' Baur is yet another example... turning up with Oregon plates in one photo, and then winding up in his garage in California. The 1979 320/6 that I almost bought last year has been shown to be in the Boston area in 2008, Mystic CT in 2010, and was last seen in the Philadelphia area. I am sure that we will turn up more examples of this kind of thing as we proceed.


    On the other hand, a quick review of the pins on the Google map will reveal quite a number of reports/sighting that we haven't been able to pin down. Yet. So we still have lots of work to do, Baurhunters.


    I haven't even included, of course, those Baurs that are secreted away in someone's barn, garage, or bank vault! Needless to say, those cars will remain elusive and hard to find.


    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=212684510055146301929. 000499ed9e00262f15966&z=3
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Eye Candy for Baur-Lovers

    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Forum member EBMW21 found this ad in craig's list and posted it here in another thread.

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...352407634.html

    I have emailed the seller, and I am awaiting his response. Hopefully he will provide more info on the car. Kudos to Baurhunter of the Week, EBMW21!!! This appears to be a new find, although I haven't been able to check very carefully yet.

    Anyone out that way to check it out?


    i have a 81 bmw 320i runs very well got it a frew months back in longbeach from my smog guy car runs very well .i drive it from colton off the 10 to longbeach everyday to work .reason for sale i work from 3pm to 11pm and i be sleepy and have to change gears in it o yes its a 5 speed with a two peace top you can take the sun roof off or both sun roof and back convertsdown i never seen one like this but on cardomaine just had oil change runs good you can reach me at 424-210-6579 cell name lavell ok ladys an men one guy say the driveshaft is bad i think its the muffler hitting the bottom of the car while driveing you dont here it only when pull off slow so going to have it check real sooon but still for sale need very little work on the inside have to see or drive it i drive from sanbernadino off the 10 and 215 five days to longbeach off the 710 and 91 and back never gave me a hassle i jst need another car also willing to trade for so what you got but got to drive as good as mine .i just drove it up the 605 to the 10 to the 215 in about a hour or less at 80 mph all the way here are a frew photos call for more

    Location: Inland Colton
    it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    BWR PWR!

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    Thanks to jimjim69, we now have the following info:

    "baur is A003264-13. I just talk to the seller and the last 7 vin # are 7185037

    James"

    Thank you, James!!!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-15-2012 at 06:23 PM.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    That is a 320 i that a conversion were done here were not done by baur factory no models were done and exported to the us from baur was a company in cali that did these not worth as much.


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    Ok, this car, Baur #3264, is NOT listed on the international Baur Registry! That qualifies it as a New Find! Congrats again to EBMW21 for finding this car, and to jimjim69 for identifying the Baur number. Great work, fellas!

    Here it is again:
    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv...352407634.html

    I will add this one to the Google map of the US Baurs when I get the chance.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimjim69 View Post
    That is a 320 i that a conversion were done here were not done by baur factory no models were done and exported to the us from baur was a company in cali that did these not worth as much.


    James
    Hi James, not sure what you mean by this... Are you saying the conversion was NOT done by Baur, but was done in California by a Baur licensee, such as American Sunroof Company, perhaps? Or some other company?

    Rigmaster in NC has a car like that, we believe, but he doesn't have a Baur plate.... His plate says American Sunroof Company.

    Any other info you can get on that would be great! Thank you!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    Yes California by a Baur licensee, such as American Sunroof Company.

    The is vin 7185037 , The baur tag of A003264-13

    A tag with the conversion kit most of the high # were done here not by factory.

    James
    Last edited by jimjim69; 05-01-2011 at 12:49 AM.
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    Very interesting info. I see from the BMW VIN decoder that it is an M10 automatic, as Tom D posted in the other thread, and it is a 320i built for the US market. Any other identifying plates or decals, or paperwork that might have any clues regarding importing/conversion?

    I wonder what info Jeroen can come up with on this one?

    Paging Jeroen!

    BTW, the seller has not responded to my email yet, so James, you the man with the inside track! Thanks again!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-01-2011 at 07:45 AM.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    tomscat1 Just call him. The seller had no clue what he has.

    Some better photo would help!!!

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    I was gonna see this car this morning but the seller has said it sold. So it's not a "real" baur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunElan View Post
    I was gonna see this car this morning but the seller has said it sold. So it's not a "real" baur?
    It apparently has a Baur number (3264), so I believe it is a real Baur. Most Baurs were built by Baur.... However we have learned that Baur did license a few others to build Baur conversions,using Baur parts.

    Jeroen from the Netherlands, the Resident Baur Guru here, is much more informed on this than I am, so I would refer your question to him.

    We have one member here (rigmaster) who owns what appears to be a Baur, but instead of a Baur number plate on the left quarter panel, his has a similar plate that says American Sunroof Company, Hempstead NY #001. American Sunroof Company did do Baur conversions under license from Baur.... But that car is the only one we know of, so far. Check out the early pages of this thread.... There are pics of rigmaster's car and the plate, etc. This information is about 30 years old now, and is very hard to trace, but we are still working on it.

    As far as the present car, we just have a lot of questions right now, and not a lot of answers. At the very least, because it has a Baur number, it is a Baur. It may also be a very rare example of a Baur that was converted in the US---- from what I can tell.....an EXTREMELY rare car! We don't know that for sure yet.... But that would make it a real collectible, in my view.

    Bear in mind, we are trying to identify ALL the US E21 Baurs.... It appears that there may be a total of 50-100 left in the US.... No one really knows how many there are. Out of that small number, there may be a handful or less, of examples that were converted to Baurs here in the US. Rarest of the rare. I think it would be neat to own one of them. Right now, for example, it appears that rigmaster owns a "one-off".

    It just doesn't GET any rarer than that! .
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-01-2011 at 01:39 PM.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    If the report is true that the car is sold..... My question is... Did one of you guys here buy it?

    If so.... Congrats! And LET'S HEAR ABOUT IT ALREADY!!!!



    Inquiring minds want to know!
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    I just got off the phone with the seller of the Baur. It is indeed sold. He was totally surprised by the response to his CL ad, stating the phone hasn't stopped ringing in a week and a half!

    Anyway, he had no idea about the rarity, except as he said in the ad. He said he loved to drive this car..., but had to sell. It is now a 5 speed, white with black interior. He indicated no knowledge of where the conversion was done.... So it may be a German Baur, I don't know. Anyway, I hope we cam contact the new owner to follow up on this!!
    Last edited by tomscat1; 05-10-2011 at 04:34 PM.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    I have the new buyers name, let's see if he is a member here, or if I can contact him somehow.

    Stay tuned.
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    I found this post today from E21BAUR in the E30 forum:


    "hey i have a 323i Baur TC1 here in California
    just finishing restoring it actually my mother was the first owner and her dad my grandpa imported it here from Germany.
    i know theres another one in cali somewhere that i was about to buy but i got beat to it.
    Let me know if u want some pics or any info"



    This was my first response.....
    "Yes indeed... we love pics! And welcome aboard! Please join us over on the E21 forum:
    http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1566814

    That is the main thread for "Baur TC1s in the US".... and there are several others from time to time. Lots of great info on that thread... it's loooong! We have done a lot of work and we have had some amazing finds since we started in December 2010. It has been a blast! Check it out. Enjoy!

    Send us some pics and any info you can, and I will post it on the primitive Google map showing the located Baurs in the US.
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...0262f15966&z=3

    And I will also include you on my blog, "Baurspotting" dedicated to finding and identifying all the Baurs in the US, starting with the TC1s.
    http://baurspotting.blogspot.com/


    Great to hear from you.... what is your Baur number? I don't know if your car is a 'new find', or if you are one of the ones we have been trying to track down. Exciting stuff! "
    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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    After doing a little checking.... it turns out we already HAD the car on the map, but just hadn't reached the owner, until now. As the saying goes... the harder you work, the luckier you get! Welcome E21BAUR!!

    So I posted this:

    "I just checked the Google map.... we already have your car listed there, although it is only based on an old post that you made back in February. Great to actually make contact with you, and welcome aboard! Keep those pics coming!!

    This was your post I found back in February, and it is already on the Google map:

    "1982 323i Torrance Ca
    Updated Feb 2

    owned by 'E21BAUR"
    "Hey
    im really intrested in those euro bumpers if there in pretty good condition
    im restoring a 1982 E21 323i Baur edition bueatiful car but has the ugly ass american bumpers =(
    let me know "

    email sent 2/2/2011"




    Looking forward to seeing some pics, and learning more about this Baur!

    Another Baur.... "Coming in from the Cold"!
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUdUmLmNQis[/ame]
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    Tom
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    1982 323i Baur, 1977 320i (carbed),
    1978 320i (parts)
    1991 325ix 5 speed, 1989 325ix (winter),
    1989 325ic (summer)
    1973 2002 Malaga (with frosting)
    1975 Mercedes W115 300D (The Departed)
    the late 1979 323i Euro (project, Now Departed)

    Visit my blog: Baurspotting
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    BWR PWR!

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