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    Easy! Just add the corresponding FA`s to your modules and that`s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSE60 View Post
    Easy! Just add the corresponding FA`s to your modules and that`s it.
    What hardware/software do I need to get started on this?

    Best/cheapest place to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlackE46 View Post
    What hardware/software do I need to get started on this?

    Best/cheapest place to buy?
    This really isn't the right thread for those questions.

    Anyway, you'll want a standard EDIABAS interface, and the software can be found in the 4shared folder. Get the interface off ebay

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    My NCSdummy no longer works, ever since instaalling it on my IBM t42 it keep giving an error when I try to load the E60 chassis, basicly it`s saying it cannot load SWTFSW05.DAT and SWTPSW05.DAT.

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    BLooD30: Please always provide an NCS Dummy log (right click the log, click "Copy Log" from the menu and paste here). Also have a look in the "NCSEXPER\DATEN\E60\" folder and verify the "SWTFSW05.DAT" and "SWTPSW05.DAT" files are actually there. If not, your NCS Expert installation is corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revtor View Post
    BLooD30: Please always provide an NCS Dummy log (right click the log, click "Copy Log" from the menu and paste here). Also have a look in the "NCSEXPER\DATEN\E60\" folder and verify the "SWTFSW05.DAT" and "SWTPSW05.DAT" files are actually there. If not, your NCS Expert installation is corrupt.
    [ ] 17:00:28 NCS Dummy 0.4.0.0 beta 2 launched.
    [ ] 17:00:28 Successfully loaded 2236 translations from "Translations.csv".
    [ ] 17:00:28 Selected path to NCS Expert DATEN folder "C:\NCSEXPER\DATEN\".
    [ ] 17:00:28 Successfully loaded 17 supported chassis.
    [ ] 17:00:37 Selected chassis "E60".
    [E] 17:00:37 An error occurred while reading function keywords from "SWTFSW05.DAT": Could not load file or assembly 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
    [E] 17:00:37 An error occurred while reading parameter keywords from "SWTPSW05.DAT": Could not load file or assembly 'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
    [ ] 17:00:37 Successfully loaded 385 modules.


    Thats what i get, the two files are are defiantly in my E60 daten folder.

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    BLooD30: You must install Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1. That will fix the problem.

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    Hello Revtor,

    I have registered in this forum especially because of your tool. I didnt used it (Im a beginner) but sounds very interesting. Correct me if Im wrong but my understanding of your tool is as follows:
    The tool shows up what parameters can be set on the selected/ read-out module. It does not modify anything.

    If this is correct my question is: Do you intend to make the tool more user friendly?

    My suggestion would be to implement an interface which shows the parameters and the possible settings like in PA Soft (for example by using radio buttons), so that the user can select what he wants to code and generates an MAN-File file with NCS Dummy for NCS Expert.

    Is this something what you would like to do?

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    no man file...nettodata

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipmen View Post
    Correct me if Im wrong but my understanding of your tool is as follows: The tool shows up what parameters can be set on the selected/ read-out module. It does not modify anything.
    Yes, that's correct. NCS Dummy only interprets NCS Expert data and trace files.
    Do you intend to make the tool more user friendly? My suggestion would be to implement an interface which shows the parameters and the possible settings like in PA Soft (for example by using radio buttons), so that the user can select what he wants to code and generates an MAN-File file with NCS Dummy for NCS Expert.
    I have been thinking along these lines, but at the moment I have very little time to develop the application - so progress is going very slowly and I cannot make promises about features like that. I'm also not sure how well this would work for modules with large numbers of functions. PA Soft's BMW Scanner only shows interesting/useful functions. I don't know what you people find interesting functions and I have very little interest in implementing a list of useful functions, so NCS Dummy would show all functions. For some modules with hundreds and hundreds of functions (of which only a fraction is really useful), that would really clutter the output. Further there's the fact that many functions have parameter keywords like "wert_01", "wert_02", "wert_03",... which are completely meaningless. You can't use the current translation mechanism in NCS Dummy to give meaningful explanations as the meaning differs from function to function. I could add a translation mechanism that combines function and parameter keywords but it would be an immense job to fill those translations and definitely not something I would want to waste my time on...

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    Hey Revtor, I'm trying to load the "nettodat.trc" generated from my M3's cluster, and it's telling me "[E] 15:47:50 An error occurred while reading trace functions from "NETTODAT.TRC": Not a valid hexadecimal code."

    I've attached the NETTODAT.TRC and the corresponding FSW_PSW. The module in question is KMB_E46M3.C24

    Am I doing something wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by russiane39 View Post
    Revtor, great you responded. So there is my replies:
    1. To understand for what third block is needed - just open any .dat in my prog I bet -you are smart
    PS: Correct answer is sorted indexes.
    2. "ks" value is checksum value. It looks uncommon, because in Russian language checksum is "Kontrolnaya Summa"
    3. Check PM, there is some another gift for you

    EH, seems this forum have no PMs here at all, so it would be gift for everyone here.
    1) Updated data2txt w/o ugly richedit search. http://storage.v12.su/data2txt14022011.rar
    2) And second new app. http://storage.v12.su/DecodeIpo13022011.rar (Guess what it does )
    Thanks for some great tools. I've noticed an occasional problem when using data2txt to produce cXX files, sometimes they are not written out completely. Is this something you have fixed in a newer version? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    I'm trying to load the "nettodat.trc" generated from my M3's cluster, and it's telling me "[E] 15:47:50 An error occurred while reading trace functions from "NETTODAT.TRC": Not a valid hexadecimal code."
    You are not doing anything wrong. This is a known bug in the current release of NCS Dummy. I was intending to provide quick updates for NCS Dummy 0.4.0.0, but due to lack of time this has been postponed - sorry. While developing the nettodata parser I did not have much sample "NETTODAT.TRC" files. The ones I had all used a single byte notation. It wasn't until later I realized there were different notations as well. It will be fixed in the next version.

    To everyone reading the thread: I still welcome "NETTODAT.TRC" and "FSW_PSW.TRC" trace files. The more real-life data I have, the better I can test the application. You can mail them to . Please always include chassis and module or rename the files to "chassis-module-NETTODAT.TRC", for example "E46-KMB_E46M3.C24-NETTODAT.TRC". Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by revtor View Post
    You are not doing anything wrong. This is a known bug in the current release of NCS Dummy. I was intending to provide quick updates for NCS Dummy 0.4.0.0, but due to lack of time this has been postponed - sorry. While developing the nettodata parser I did not have much sample "NETTODAT.TRC" files. The ones I had all used a single byte notation. It wasn't until later I realized there were different notations as well. It will be fixed in the next version.

    To everyone reading the thread: I still welcome "NETTODAT.TRC" and "FSW_PSW.TRC" trace files. The more real-life data I have, the better I can test the application. You can mail them to . Please always include chassis and module or rename the files to "chassis-module-NETTODAT.TRC", for example "E46-KMB_E46M3.C24-NETTODAT.TRC". Thanks!
    Ah cool understood - at least it's expected behavior. Are there any particular nettodata files you're interested in? I could sit down at some point and generate one for every module in my cars, but idk how useful that'd be for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraPhantm View Post
    Are there any particular nettodata files you're interested in? I could sit down at some point and generate one for every module in my cars, but idk how useful that'd be for you.
    For the E46 I'm still looking for trace files of following modules: "BTM_E46.C01", "MIR.C01", "RA_CD43.C01", "SHD.C03", "SHD.C04", and "SM_E46.C01". Here's an overview of modules I'd like to get trace files of:

    Type 1 (most interested):
    • E38: ACC (C01..C02)
    • E60: ACC_E65 (C06..C09), ACC2_E60 (C24..C28), LRR_60 (C50..C52)
    • E65: ACC_E65 (C05..C09), ACC2_E60 (C24..C28)
    • E89: ACC2_E90 (C44..C47)
    Type 2 (most interested):
    • E53: DXC8_E53 (C01..C03)
    • E60: AFS (C03..C04), AFS_60 (C05..C0B), ARS (C0B..C0F), ARS_70 (C11..C12), DSC8_RPA (C01..C04)
    • E65: ARS (C09..C0F), ARS_70 (C11..C12), CIM (C03), CIM2 (C04)
    • E70: AFS_70 (C04..C05), ARS_70 (C12..C13), EDCS_HL (C04), EDCS_HR (C04), EDCS_VL (C04), EDCS_VR (C04), ICM_71 (C04..C06), VDM_E70 (C02)
    • E83: DXC8_E83 (C02)
    • E89: AFS_90 (C04..C0A)
    • R50: KMB_R50 (C04..C11)
    • RR1: CIM (C03), CIM2 (C04)
    Type 3:
    • E38: SHD (C03..C04)
    • E46: SHD (C03..C04)
    • R50: SHD (C03..C04)
    Type 4:
    • E60: RLSS_E70 (C02)
    • E70: JBBFE3R (C40), JBBFEII (C06..C0A), RLSS_E70 (C02)
    • E89: JBBFE (C04..C07), JBBFE3R (C40), JBBFEII (C06..C0A)
    • R56: SPEG (C04..C05)
    Type 5:
    • E38: SM_E38 (C02)
    • E39: RA_CD43 (C01), SM_E38 (C02)
    • E46: BTM_E46 (C01), MIR (C01), RA_CD43 (C01), SM_E46 (C01)
    • E52: MIR (C01), RA_CD43 (C01)
    • E53: RA_CD43 (C01), SM_E46 (C01), SM_E53 (C01)
    • E83: SM_E46 (C01), SM_E53 (C01)
    • E85: SM_E46 (C01)
    If anyone can create "NETTODAT.TRC" and FSW_PSW.TRC" trace files for modules listed above, I would be most grateful. I don't have a single example of these types yet. I don't need all of them, but I do need at least one (and preferably a few) of each type. Please post the trace files here, or mail them to and don't forget to include chassis name and module name. Trace files of modules not listed above are welcome too, of course - more is better . Thanks!

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    I should have access to at least a few of those between my E46 and dad's E60, I'll see what I can find.... I hope the coding indices I have are the right ones.

    I assume "cheating" by manually entering an FA and using the "CoapiGetNettoDataFromCbd" and "CoapiGetFswPswFromNettoData" functions isn't good enough for your purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by russiane39 View Post
    Revtor, great you responded. So there is my replies:
    1. To understand for what third block is needed - just open any .dat in my prog I bet -you are smart
    PS: Correct answer is sorted indexes.
    2. "ks" value is checksum value. It looks uncommon, because in Russian language checksum is "Kontrolnaya Summa"
    3. Check PM, there is some another gift for you

    EH, seems this forum have no PMs here at all, so it would be gift for everyone here.
    1) Updated data2txt w/o ugly richedit search. http://storage.v12.su/data2txt14022011.rar
    2) And second new app. http://storage.v12.su/DecodeIpo13022011.rar (Guess what it does )
    russiane39 your data2txt does not output FRM files properly, I have tried it and the file outputs at 1kb. Is this a glitch with it?

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    Hello revtor,
    I see that your address is. be
    Are you Belgian? And do you speak french? (by mail not on the forum of course)

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    cmoimem: Sorry, English only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revtor View Post
    If anyone can create "NETTODAT.TRC" and FSW_PSW.TRC" trace files for modules listed above, I would be most grateful. I don't have a single example of these types yet. I don't need all of them, but I do need at least one (and preferably a few) of each type. Please post the trace files here, or mail them to and don't forget to include chassis name and module name. Trace files of modules not listed above are welcome too, of course - more is better . Thanks!
    I've just sent you an e-mail with all of my trace files. Thanks so much for creating this software and sharing it with us!

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    stonesfan: Thanks a lot!

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    big thx russiane39 and revtor

    keep on going!!

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    There is another quickfix for data2txt:
    http://storage.v12.su/data2txt25032011.rar
    Fixed saving of files like KMB_E85.C08 . It is not recommended for anyone, except those poor mans, who have errors with older data2txt.
    This is example string, which pisses me off. I have absolutely no idea, what + could mean.
    PARZUWEISUNG_DIR : {} 00000051 0001 055E {} (0F) ({+,'','',''}) 68
    Revtor, maybe you have any idea ?

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