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Thread: Retrofit: 3-point seat belt for rear middle seat?

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    Retrofit: 3-point seat belt for rear middle seat?

    Hey everyone! I have two little ones and occasionally I will end up driving some of their friends around in the back seat as well. I want to make sure all the kids are as safe as possible back there. Is there a manufacturer that makes a three-point seatbelt for the middle rear seat of the e38? does BMW? Thanks!

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    No. Someone try and prove me wrong. I wanted this as well

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    kids ride in the trunk

    saves the leather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biped View Post
    kids ride in the trunk

    saves the leather.
    hahahahaha

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    Yes that is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Yes that is possible
    Any thoughts on how ?
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    Yep fly me over in April and I'll fix that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biped View Post
    kids ride in the trunk

    saves the leather.
    + 1

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    Cody here a little teaser pic



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    Yup. Third three point seat belt was an option in euroland, along with a centre headrest.

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    Well I better not let the Mrs see this. She has been bugging me to see if this existed. I was told no by BMW in Victoria. Either way I'm wrong.

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    OK I have 3rd seat belt on the rear seat , but it is not a 3-point? This is how all the rest E38s are - the regular set up. So how can this be retroed? Edwin is there any write up for the rest of us



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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoomelon View Post
    Yup. Third three point seat belt was an option in euroland, along with a centre headrest.
    Are there any engineering limitations on a North American retrofit then? I mean, it looks like the shoulder strap is tied into the same anchor as the driver side rear shoulder, but will doubling up the force exceed the load limits on a NA anchor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Cody here a little teaser pic


    You really know how to hurt a guy!
    "April Fare €660.11"
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    Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Lol!
    So, what's involved in doing this ? I don't see any parts listed in Real OEM or I'm not looking at the correct euro model/year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny Puppy View Post
    Well I better not let the Mrs see this. She has been bugging me to see if this existed. I was told no by BMW in Victoria. Either way I'm wrong.
    No... use this as an opportunity... tell her it can be retrofitted but in order to make it work correctly you have to do rear AC, Hydro trunk, and any other retrofits that you'd like Edwin to ship over...

    richard

    Quote Originally Posted by cody3 View Post
    So, what's involved in doing this ? I don't see any parts listed in Real OEM or I'm not looking at the correct euro model/year.
    REAR center UPPER BELTGRAU1

    72118208845

    It's there...
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    Last edited by darkstarmedia; 11-05-2010 at 12:25 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
    WTB: Dinan Spring set, for the 750iL

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    That, from what I can tell on RealOEM is the normal left/right rear seat belt - which in our cars happen to mount in the center in our cars and buckle on the outside. The picture provided by E shows the two belts using the same upper harness output "port".
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    Who knows I may share the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Who knows I may share the info
    Our patience is wearing thin....

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    WTB: Dinan Spring set, for the 750iL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Who knows I may share the info
    I guess it will cost 660 euros to find out....
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    Cool mod. Not sure if it's worth that much, though.
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    Ok, Big E, any chance to you're gonna share this mod info ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin NL View Post
    Cody here a little teaser pic

    Was this retrofit ever confirmed or shown how to do? I bought a center upper belt for my car, but don't see where it would fit behind the rear electric seat back. There is space for the left side belt retractor, but no clear place for the center belt retractor. Hoping I didn't buy this for nothing.

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