My DIS/INPA/SSS/CARSOFT/NAVCODER Interface.

[Marcys]

Well, go and try it!

Could you tell me if the pin nº14 of bmw interface 20pin(power pin) go with 5v or go with 12v¿?



Thanks

Nothing, I just try. I do not know why not go, I'm going crazy.

[poteroa]

Could you tell me if the pin nº14 of bmw interface 20pin(power pin) go with 5v or go with 12v¿?



Thanks

Nothing, I just try. I do not know why not go, I'm going crazy.

Sorry??!? I didn´t understand your question.
Do you mean that what voltages are in car side OBD-Connector?
If that is what you are asking, check this link:

http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectroni...c_pinout.shtml This is the 16-pin new model

http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectroni...g_pinout.shtml This is the old 20-pin version

So if your car is pre 2000 and you have the round connection, you have to buy/make an adapter to use this application

But if you are asking that regarding the cable, you don´t need that information, just make this cable and follow instructions.
If you are looking info for some other application, then for that you have to start a new topic.

[Marcys]

No no!

I asked about the voltage that reaches at the 14 pin of connector
motor (http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectroni...g_pinout.shtml)

and i solved my doubt, the power and the Ignition pin's will come +12V

but the cable does not work, I tested the resistences and are
correct, not how to test the transistor to see if it works
correctly.

The current programming interface are:
I / O CONTROLS
c0 rxtled
c1 txled
c2 poweron
c3 poweron
c4 sleep


And RI # INVERT .

All by MPROG 3.5

I do not know what else I can try ... : (

THANKS








TESTING TRANSISTOR:



Among leg E and C and my tester in 20Kohm the value is 9.93

In other combinations of testing do not get any value.

:S


you have this values in your transistor?

THANKS

[poteroa]

No no!

I asked about the voltage that reaches at the 14 pin of connector
motor (http://pinoutsguide.com/CarElectroni...g_pinout.shtml)

and i solved my doubt, the power and the Ignition pin's will come +12V

but the cable does not work, I tested the resistences and are
correct, not how to test the transistor to see if it works
correctly.

The current programming interface are:
I / O CONTROLS
c0 rxtled
c1 txled
c2 poweron
c3 poweron
c4 sleep


And RI # INVERT .

All by MPROG 3.5

I do not know what else I can try ... : (

THANKS








TESTING TRANSISTOR:



Among leg E and C and my tester in 20Kohm the value is 9.93

In other combinations of testing do not get any value.

:S


you have this values in your transistor?

THANKS

Hi, I don´t have a multimeter at the moment, so can´t test the 546.

But one thing, DO NOT INVERT ANYTHING WITH THE SOFTWARE!
If you do this real ignition modification, the chip has to be in "factory state".
Only change those:

I / O CONTROLS
c0 rxtled
c1 txled
c2 poweron
c3 poweron
c4 sleep


Leave the DI# and DSR# blank (No selection) when you flash the chip.
Check after flashing that the DI# and DSR# don´t have any invertion.
The Battery "dot" is black in INPA when the cable is connected to PC, the Ignition is White. If you get INPA in that state, the cable should work.
Always after flashing, take the cable off from usb port, and plug back in, (Close m.prog before that). Also check that your computer has not taken a new comport for the cable, other than com1 won´t work. (my computer changed the cables com port to com28 after flashing, and had to set it manually after that to com1).

And I don´t have any knowledge of that old connection, I have E60 bmw, and it has the new OBD2 connection. If you have the old one, you should try to find a person that has made this modification to 20-pin adapter.
Check the Locum´s post in the beginning of this topic, there is picture how to connect to old OBD-port.

[Marcys]

Hi, I don´t have a multimeter at the moment, so can´t test the 546.

But one thing, DO NOT INVERT ANYTHING WITH THE SOFTWARE!
If you do this real ignition modification, the chip has to be in "factory state".
Only change those:

I / O CONTROLS
c0 rxtled
c1 txled
c2 poweron
c3 poweron
c4 sleep


Leave the DI# and DSR# blank (No selection) when you flash the chip.
Check after flashing that the DI# and DSR# don´t have any invertion.
The Battery "dot" is black in INPA when the cable is connected to PC, the Ignition is White. If you get INPA in that state, the cable should work.
Always after flashing, take the cable off from usb port, and plug back in, (Close m.prog before that). Also check that your computer has not taken a new comport for the cable, other than com1 won´t work. (my computer changed the cables com port to com28 after flashing, and had to set it manually after that to com1).

And I don´t have any knowledge of that old connection, I have E60 bmw, and it has the new OBD2 connection. If you have the old one, you should try to find a person that has made this modification to 20-pin adapter.
Check the Locum´s post in the beginning of this topic, there is picture how to connect to old OBD-port.

I tryed the invert by hardware, solding the two points, RI# AND GND (not DI, IS RI, no??)

I have unchecked all options in Mprog and programmed the chip.

i have interface in 1 com port and latency in 2msg.

I tryed to disconect the interface after each step, but still my INPA DOT Baterry ARE BLANK without connect at the car or connecting at car.

I think the chip is damaged... but... if i invert DSR both dots in INPA are BLACK connected at the car or not.

[poteroa]

I tryed the invert by hardware, solding the two points, RI# AND GND (not DI, IS RI, no??)

I have unchecked all options in Mprog and programmed the chip.

i have interface in 1 com port and latency in 2msg.

I tryed to disconect the interface after each step, but still my INPA DOT Baterry ARE BLANK without connect at the car or connecting at car.

I think the chip is damaged... but... if i invert DSR both dots in INPA are BLACK connected at the car or not.

If you are using BC546 and the resistors are the right ones, you have made a mistake in soldering the components or the npn transistor is damaged. Check, and recheck everything.
Be sure that the 4K7 resistor is in +5 volt that comes from computers side, AND THE C-LEG IS IN THE LINE AFTER THE RESISTOR!
If you have connected it before 4k7 resistor, you might have fried the npn.

It should be like this: +5volt->4K7->C-leg>-Pin9 of FT232RL

Try to find a camera, and take a picture of your cable.
Sorry, but can´t help you more if you have done everything "by the book"

[evotronix]

Can anyone tell me if 1/8 Watt (0.125W) nis enough for the 4.7 Kohm resistor? That's what my local radio shack has, and I don't want to order online, and they have 0.250 Watt for the 10k or higher.
Thanks for any replies!

[poteroa]

Can anyone tell me if 1/8 Watt (0.125W) nis enough for the 4.7 Kohm resistor? That's what my local radio shack has, and I don't want to order online, and they have 0.250 Watt for the 10k or higher.
Thanks for any replies!

Less watt means that the resistor is less heat resistant, but its more compatible for low amper applications. The 4k7 is better to be a 1/4, cause your USB-port +5volt won´t give much ampers.
I bought 1/4 watt resistors, and they work fine with this cable modification. Take the 1/4 watt ones. (.250) and you won´t have any problems.

[geiristudio]

Could someone post a link to a cable that does include the chip ? I've looked at some cables on ebay and asked if the chip is included but no one answers. Thanks!

[poteroa]

Could someone post a link to a cable that does include the chip ? I've looked at some cables on ebay and asked if the chip is included but no one answers. Thanks!

Hi, allmost any 409.1 KKL VAG-COM cable (USB) has either the RL/BM chip, so if the connector is blue in color, it should have one of the compatible chips you can modify to your needs. Its all the same witch chip you get, the chips pinout is just different.

It is possible that you might get a cable that has totally different chip technology too, so do not blame me if you get a cable that can not be modified.

That cable from the link should be modified:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VAG-COM-USB-KKL-409-1-cable-AUDI-VW-OBD2-OBD-2-/250667563984

(I have that cable, and works perfect)

[djcristi]

actually , any vag409 will do, price is 6-8$/pcs from china , there are 2 blue versions.

version1
version2

[pyro225]

anyone tell me how they get dis to work with this cable ? i have v57 in the vmware image but very stuck - no connection?

[poteroa]

anyone tell me how they get dis to work with this cable ? i have v57 in the vmware image but very stuck - no connection?

Hi.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=20157823

Follow that guide, and you WILL NEED the BMW Head Emulator 1.2 software, try to search the forums for that.
I know that the V44 (M5-board.com) "easy DIS v44" still has the Programming function, the later versions do not have them, so try to find that package.
btw the isntallation is very hard to get to work if you don´t know any UNIX..

[locum]

Hi.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=20157823

Follow that guide, and you WILL NEED the BMW Head Emulator 1.2 software, try to search the forums for that.
I know that the V44 (M5-board.com) "easy DIS v44" still has the Programming function, the later versions do not have them, so try to find that package.
btw the isntallation is very hard to get to work if you don´t know any UNIX..

You don't really need diaghead emulator, installation is not that difficult i made some video tutorials but in spanish language

[Orphee]

Hi, I have a question please :
I have a FT232BL chip.

I soldered everything to make the ignition detection work.

But something seems to be bad : the when I check the solder with a ohmmeter (?) it seems PIN 20 and 21 are wired...
Is is true ?

When I check my solder on the pin 20, I don't think I soldered 21 too...
THank you for your help !

Edit : I checked again, I scratched a little beetween pin 20 and 21 with a needle ... I now there not wired anymore...

Edit again : IT WORKS !! YES !! INPA detects Battery and ignition !

Thank you for ALL !

[Marcys]

please, someone open the BMW 20-pin connector and tell me when cables
go to the skewers.

I have 4 wires, so that:

1k
1L
1 12v battery power
1 GND

As the power of this cable have avoided it?

someone I open one and count the wires passing through the cable please?

you delay 1 minute to remove 2 small screws and check the cables of the connector!!

[Beemer187]

please, someone open the BMW 20-pin connector and tell me when cables
go to the skewers.

I have 4 wires, so that:

1k
1L
1 12v battery power
1 GND

As the power of this cable have avoided it?

someone I open one and count the wires passing through the cable please?

you delay 1 minute to remove 2 small screws and check the cables of the connector!!

I have:

pin 15: red wire
pin 19: black wire
pin 14: orange wire
pin 16: brown wire

pin 16 and 20 are connected to each other.

[Marcys]

I have:

pin 15: red wire
pin 19: black wire
pin 14: orange wire
pin 16: brown wire

pin 16 and 20 are connected to each other.

huuummm your circuit of real ignition detection runs well?

you tell me pin 16(ingnition) go with pin20(ISO 9141-2 K Line)...


you should have the pin 17 and 20 together

[Beemer187]

huuummm your circuit of real ignition detection runs well?

you tell me pin 16(ingnition) go with pin20(ISO 9141-2 K Line)...


you should have the pin 17 and 20 together

I've checked it again....
Forget pin 16. you were right, pin 17 & 20 together, my bad.

[Marcys]

I NEED Someone with DIS fully configured vmware and it works, and interface
INPA correct:

1-NO CONNECTION TO CAR INTERFACE
2-Opening IFH-service.exe
3-Connecting the interface to your laptop ONLY!
4-Open VMWARE AND EXECUTE DIS
5-CODIFICACION/PROGRAMATION
6-CAR MEMORY
7-forward arrow (below right)
8-When say we put the contact ON and it will start
automatically detecting the car, NOT EVEN THE INTERFACE TO CONNECT
CAR, only the laptop, I repeat, only the PC, we give the following ...

9-He will say that is reading data, what is the error ????

it said the following?

"Control unit description file not present?"
"Please insert CD and repeat process present!"

10-Just let go you back ...



Well, that's what I want you to try, if you give that error, because I now
until this weekend I can not test the car in front and I have the theme
sw and hw prepared to reach out and connect and do not go setting sw.


I ask this because I think that gives a rare error that says insert a cd ¿?

if I have not even connect the interface to the car!



PLEASE try it, try it you delay 5 min


THANKS

[Marcys]

Now works correctly DIS

I enabled 'Follow me home'

But even with it on, if I open or close the car, still do not turn the
lights.


Anyone can tell me if so when you have to turn on lights, or
While that option is to give the high beam lever without a key on?

[chas3]

In order to trigger the function, once you have parked that car, stop the engine and pull the high beam lever towards you (just like you would flash it). It would stay on for the preset period of time, even if you lock the car. It will then turn off after the preset time has elapsed. In addition, you can code which lights are on for this function.

[Orphee]

Hi,

Just a question, I did the real ignition mod, but battery is always ON when I plug the cable to the computer... the cable is not plugged to the car.
Ignition detect works well, but battery always ON. Is it normal ? Or can in be a problem ?

Thank you !

[Marcys]

Hi,

Just a question, I did the real ignition mod, but battery is always ON when I plug the cable to the computer... the cable is not plugged to the car.
Ignition detect works well, but battery always ON. Is it normal ? Or can in be a problem ?

Thank you !

your cable it's ok, it's normal!!!


Thanks chas3!!!!!

[Orphee]

Hi !
I can read somewere latest BMW use D-Can interface... It means this cable does not work for them ?
We must buy a D-can cable ?

It is really more expensive than KKL cable :s

Thank you