Last edited by bmwjavier; 11-01-2010 at 11:08 AM.
Hello,
I just bought a usb kkl 409.1 Vagcom cable..
The chip is FT232BL...
I would like to know what are exaclty the pin to solder from the beginning...
I want "some REAL battery and ingnition detect"
Do I need to do the step #4 of the tutorial or it is only for FT232RL ? :
4# Open your vagcom and solder obd2 pins 7 and 8, which are the K lines, otherwise you will not be able to access to all modules from the car
I guess I have to do this circuit :
on the picture just after I can see the pin 17 and 18 soldered, do I have to do so ?
The post #21 does not do the same circuit, is it for FT232RL ?
Thank you for your help !
I was just about to order a ressler, when I bumped into this. Thumbs up locum
Is the BC546 is mandatory ? or any NPN can do the job ?
Thank you
bc546 is like the cheapest , any npn is ok , 547 etc. look for my earlier post , it's for ft232bm , you have to find the corresponding pins on BL and all ok, it;s the same chip , different package
I have a C1740 transistor... If I'm not wrong it is a NPN transistor..
Should be good, just need to now E B C ... searching...
Edit : Forget it, i just bought a BC547 ...
Last edited by Orphee; 11-04-2010 at 07:45 AM.
what the different with this Vagcom interface and GT1(yellow head) under BMW DIS??
Maybe i ask a stupid question but :
With this cable, do we have to install the supplied driver CD ?
Or this one is needed :
5# For the software mod, you will need this driver "CDM 4.2.1916 WHQL certified" , so unpack it, connect the cable, and install all with this driver.
I have a FT232BL and plan to do the REAL battery and ingnition detect
you may install the latest ftdi drivers
I have had success with this thread. I just got this cable from Ebay that has the 232RL chip
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VAG-C...item3a5cf37bd0
Opened it up and soldered 7 and 8 together. Threw out the software that came with it followed the directions in post 1 for the driver and chip reprogramming. Works great with INPA and EasyDIS v44.
Last edited by nutterdog; 11-04-2010 at 01:40 PM.
2003 525i 5spd PP/SP/CWP/Xenons/Sapphire/Black
Dice Silverline, CDV Delete, TCU Bluetooth
Coming soon: 545i short shift
HELP!! i have the 232rl cable i soldered the two pins together and flashed it as per instructions. Set to com1 and latency 2ms... When i run inpa it says ignition on and battery on when its not even plugged into car.. is this right???
Also carsoft just says BAD Response when trying to connect... help?
That is right. Unless you do resistor/transistor mod you do not get battery/ignition detect and INPA will always show black dots. Does INPA work?
I have no idea about Carsoft.
2003 525i 5spd PP/SP/CWP/Xenons/Sapphire/Black
Dice Silverline, CDV Delete, TCU Bluetooth
Coming soon: 545i short shift
inpa works even without battery & ign mod. if you solder them like that and it feels ign on permanently , you won't be able to do programming with DIS
So is it true that if you have a FT232RL you'd need to solder this circuit, but instead of connecting it to pin 20 on the chip it has to go to pin 9 for the RL?
And is it necessary to ground pin 6 (RI#) as per Poteroas post?
One last thing, is it a problem if I use a BC547 instead of the BC546, looking at this page I'd think it shouldn't be a problem: http://electronic.netsons.org/?q=node/55
And do you need PIN 13 & 14 (CBUS2/3)? Cause I just killed those two :/
Last edited by fsfikke; 11-08-2010 at 09:23 AM.
Can i program with dis if i just put 7 and 8 together? i can sort of get it going in carsoft now - can connect to dme but no other modules???? any ideas?? also dumb question - what can you program with dis? can you upgrade moduels firmware like the bm54s so they support mp3s or can you upgrade bluetooth modules so they are more compatable?
to program with dis you need only the vag interface, no mods, or the real ign mod. with fake ign mode don't work, it will keep telling you to switch on & off ignition when you write settings.
Hi. ALL THAT HAVE THE RL-CHIP!!
It´s crucial that you check out that picture that I posted earlier.
Do the soldering exactly as I did, and remember.
DO NOT INVERT THE RL-Chips DI# DSR# with the software, if they are inverted the cable wont work. So if you use the REAL ignition detection, flash the chip again without the taps in DI# DSR#
I can´t include the pics here for some reason, so clik the links..
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=7014573.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=7014572.jpg
After you have done these things, you should have a working cable.
The BC547 should work if you don´t have a 546.
Last edited by IcemanBHE; 11-08-2010 at 07:35 PM.
Can someone provide some soldering tips for attaching the transistor to the chip lead? I was able to bridge 7-8 but the next steps seems to require some more technique.
2003 525i 5spd PP/SP/CWP/Xenons/Sapphire/Black
Dice Silverline, CDV Delete, TCU Bluetooth
Coming soon: 545i short shift
Buy very thin solder, like .1 or .2 mm thick, I use a gas solder that is very light in use and you can heat the component in less than a second.
Cover the nearest pins with matches or something made of wood, so that you create a "canyon" in pin 9, that way you wont solder the pin to wrong place. Use normal electric tape to keep the woodsticks in place.
You can also check the trace that comes to the pin9, just scrape all the lack off the surface, apply some tin on it, and solder the C-leg to it.
Try to solder some tin to pin 9 itself before you try to solder the c-leg in to it, also apply some tin to the c-leg (Just so that you can see a thin layer) helps the job a lot.
Last edited by poteroa; 11-09-2010 at 10:52 AM.
to Poteroa:
i have a ftdi 232rl
I had accidentally made the invert of DSR and IR by SW(mprog) with circuit of detection power, both circles of INPA were in BLACK.
Now, if I remove both MPROG invert, both points in the INPA (interface no
connect to the car, only connect to pc) are blank.
If I invert physically (joining pin) remain blank RI BOTH POINTS
INPA (BATTERY AND ON), as if I invert the IR from the MPROG.
I can't take the error, I have everything set up exactly as
do you have, Poteroa.
Any idea?
THANKS
(excuse my bad English...)
Hi.
Those "dots" in INPA will stay white if the cable is not connected to the car, when you do this REAL ignition detection. The only way you can see if the cable is working, you have to connect the cable to the car and put Ignition on, and then check if the "dots" come black in INPA.
- Check that the resistors are installed correctly (right resistor in right place)
- What transistor you are using, are the "legs" installed as in my picture
- Did you use 1/4watt resistors
Take a picture of that cable you made, and post it here, so I might see what is wrong.
Oh, one thing. Do you get any error message with INPA when you try to run it?
Everything looks to be correct, as your interface.
I can't take a picture because I haven't got a camera with such precision.
Locum explained that if you have real power detection, if you
connect the cable to the PC but not the car, the CIRCLE (DOT) of BATTERY Will Be ON (black) and IGNITION will be OFF (white) until it is connected
interface to the car and turn on the ignition.
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