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    Timing guide rail replacement

    below is a link to BMW's TIS instructions and tips on setting the timing on an m62 tu engine.

    http://dc227.4shared.com/download/YE...tinstructi.pdf


    this link is for a writup on replacing the timing chain guides, and timing a m62tu engine.

    http://dc534.4shared.com/download/tj...uidesonM62.pdf
    Last edited by nighttowl; 03-23-2012 at 09:33 PM. Reason: updated links

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    I can host it for you whether for d/l or just to link images from. pm me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nighttowl
    that would be great. where can i email it to?
    What kind of file is it?

    Fyi: precisionpoint posted that you should private message (PM) him.
    Last edited by jamesdc4; 07-07-2011 at 12:03 PM.

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    Ahhhh sweet memories... looks good! To those yet to do this fun job you should probably replace the Valley Pan at this point if you havent already done so.

    Nice Job on the write up!!

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    I am in the same boat friday night. i might do a write up if I am not too frustrated at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnyost View Post
    I think it would be slick if you included a tool rental program along with the parts list.

    Most excellent DIY btw!!!!!!!!

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    Last edited by Luftpost; 08-23-2010 at 08:01 AM.

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    Thanks Nighttowl

    Links you provided were very helpful. Should be back on the road soon

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    So guys, I'm at the point where I'm ready to put the car back together (had to replace the OSV). Missed a step when taking everything apart, so the cams and crank are going to be way out of position. Without the special tools, it seems that setting the timing will be next to impossible.
    My plan is to install the new OSV, have the crank positioned at TDC, install the new guildes and re-assemble the lower timing chain cover/oil pan. At this point in time, should I make plans to tow the vehicle to the dealership to have them complete the timing procedures? Are these tools readily available on line somewhere? Do I even bother sweating and worrying that I'll mess up the timing and bend valves?
    Kinda having an anxiety attack, if you couldn't tell ....
    Last edited by Tommy O; 04-06-2011 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy O View Post
    So guys, I'm at the point where I'm ready to put the car back together (had to replace the OSV). Missed a step when taking everything apart, so the cams and crank are going to be way out of position. Without the special tools, it seems that setting the timing will be next to impossible.
    My plan is to install the new OSV, have the crank positioned at TDC, install the new guildes and re-assemble the lower timing chain cover/oil pan. At this point in time, should I make plans to tow the vehicle to the dealership to have them complete the timing procedures? Are these tools readily available on line somewhere? Do I even bother sweating and worrying that I'll mess up the timing and bend valves?
    Kinda having an anxiety attack, if you couldn't tell ....
    You have to go through the timing procedure.

    You basically have three options:
    1. Tow it to a dealer/indy to have it timed.
    2. Rent the timing tools (we have them, but there's a wait list)
    3. Purchase the timing tools
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    The procedure looks straight forward to set the timing.
    You know of anyone in the Central Pennsylvania area that would rent the tools? I suppose I could call the dealership and ask.

    Loosing my shop at the end of the month, so time is of the essence.
    Thank you.

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    Sorry, don't know of anyone. I'd call around to local indys and dealers.
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    Put the car back together and it runs. Did not use or have access to the necessary tools. Check engine light is on stating that timing is advanced on Bank 1. Engine still runs just fine. What's the drawl back to driving it this way?

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    I'm not sure there is a drawl back, unless it's a southern car.

    But if the timing is too far off you run the risk of the valves kissing the pistons. Just a little off will shift the power curve and affect driveability. How does it run compared to before?
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    Definitely not going to be running optimal.
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    The first time I did this, I had the cam right, but the solenoids were not right, basically the degree wheel acts as a position sensor. just a little off on the position wheel and the cams don't "know" where they are at exactly so the computer defaults to a simpler mode. You will still need the tools to get it right... take your time and make sure your up against your stops with an ohmmeter.

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    This might be a stupid question, but if the crank was at TDC, and nothing it hitting anywhere, the only parts I would need to remove from the engine to set the timing are valve covers and the upper timing chain covers, correct?

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    correct.

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    hey can you pm me and give me a price on labor for the guides. I can buy all the parts needed. I am norcal but i can drive down to socal. My car is 2002 540ispeed.

    thanks.

    BTW, I cant pm anyone here for some reason.

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    Nader83, who are you asking? You can't PM because you need more posts...
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    i have the m62 non vanos tools available if anyone wants to rent them
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    Well done on this DIY.. Does anyone have a DIY for removing the heads?

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    Check this site to look at the TIS. should offer you some insight to head removal.
    http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/e39/

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    Quote Originally Posted by frnkwhte View Post
    Well done on this DIY.. Does anyone have a DIY for removing the heads?
    you have to remove the timing gear, then pull the intake off, then head bolts.

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    ^Thanks guys

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