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    correct. insulated for protection against freezing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark@EACTuning View Post
    now we see why the individual list of parts I posted is so beneficial. If you order the valve and hoses all individually as I had suggested they would all be in the box when it arrived.

    Now you have to figure out what you have, and what you need yet. I try to make things easy for you guys. For me it's not about the extra 20 or 40 bucks spent if you order individually, it's about getting all the parts I need for the job on the first try.
    I am sorry.
    I was not trying to confuse anyone by suggesting to buy the ccv cold-weather KIT.

    I guess I should have specified the exact hoses to order with the KIT.
    I thought this could have been found by referencing the KIT's hoses to the diagram on Real OEM.

    Quote Originally Posted by bimmerfiver View Post
    +1

    Jason, I dunno what the heck ya'll were talking about above, good Sir! Don't confuse the kingdom of e39'ers, just cause you are CCV King.
    What is in question?
    I am definitely NOT the king of anything.
    Just ask my wife.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark@EACTuning View Post
    Ok now check this out.
    http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E4...oil_separator/

    You can see now that the "kit" is made up of numbers 1,2 and 3.

    To complete the "kit" to include all insulated hoses you would need:
    • 11 61 7 532 629 Vent hose (insulated)
    • 11 61 7 504 536 Return Pipe (insulated)
    which are numbers 4 and 7 in the diagram I posted above.
    Yep, those are it!

    And, yes, hose #6 is included WITH the KIT.
    It is a small hose cap plug hidden under the insulation.

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    my friend from BMW department told me that even cold wheather CCV will not totally solve this issue and i need a new type of Dipstick #9

    The new type dont have small pipe inside dipstick ( where o-ring #12 ) which was the main issue for yellow crud




    now ask how much it cost ... ~200$ what the crappppp

    see BMW #11437565437






    still not decided to buy it or not ... what guru's say ?
    Mark do you have this new Dipstick and if yes how much it costs ?

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    manifold is off
    CCV is off

    now i have space to work also on oil filter gasket




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    Quote Originally Posted by champaign777 View Post
    great
    I believe all insulated are winter version ?
    yes

    and on the m54 this job does suck. I'm helping a buddy with his soon and am not looking forward to it. Lucky enough, he's a pretty cool guy to waste an afternoon with

    HOLY SMOKE! That dip stick is $251 from Pelican

    http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...I1.x=9&I1.y=11

    Hey champaign777 do you have a a closer shot of the black & white check valve at the rear of the intake manifold? I'd like to double check mine is oriented correctly. Thanks
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    You're friend is right and wrong. He is right that the cold weather CCV and pipes will not totally solve the problem because it does not eliminate the oil vapor condensation on surfaces in cold weather. The insulation helps to reduce the level of the problem by reducing the condensation but does not eliminate it. I don't think the new dipstick will change much. The problem (clogging) is due to oil vapors condensing on the inside walls of the CCV and the various pipes when repeatedly driving short distances in cold weather. The repeated short drives in cold weather do not allow the engine to heat up long enough to allow the condensed oil vapors to drain back into the sump. They end up building up on the walls of the CCV and pipes as the yellow mayo everyone finds. The best solution is to take longer drives to allow the engine to warm up long enough to allow the condensed vapors to drain into the sump.

    BTW, someone on the other forum removed his oil filter housing, instead of the manifold or air distro piece, to improve access to the CCV. I left it and the manifold in place and it was one PITA to change the CCV. Removing the OFH may be enough to give you the needed clearance.
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    good info thanks guys ... my friend shows me BMW Bulletin about this yellow crud where it's mentioned that cold weather CCV should be replaced with a new Dipstick

    ya i also replaced vacuum hoses on secondary air check valve , #4, #7 and #9 ... Jackcat559, FYI - white part of secondary air check valve is turn to gasket



    what i can say ... 3-4 dates after work and i still there ...

    new Dipstick installed



    oil filter gasket replaced



    manifold with cold wheather CCV is ready to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by champaign777 View Post
    ... Jackcat559, FYI - white part of secondary air check valve is turn to gasket
    is that toward the manifold or that little valve? sorry it's early in the morning here, ands my comprehension skills haven't woke up yet

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    little white / black secondary valve
    white face pointed to the gasket
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    IMO, I wouldn't bother with the new cold-weather version dipstick.
    I thought about this too, and opted not to buy the outrageous priced new dipstick.
    And, I am glad that I did not buy it, because after I took off my existing dipstick, it was in great shape!
    No crud, or yellow gunk!

    I used a straightened out clothes hanger (similar to a pipe cleaner) to clean out the original dipstick.

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    I have been asked about the new version m54 dipstick and I recall ordering one for a guy some time ago, and it being pricey for what it is.

    I think it might be something to consider if your engine has really bad oil condensation issues, I have yet to see a bimmer locally that really had a problem with it though. Either way, the new stick tube will not hurt.

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    The dipstick guide P/n 11-43-7-565-437 is required in really cold climate. Like Canada. I have that new dipstick when I changed to the cold climate version. We have bursts of -40°C to -50°C (-40°F to -48°F). Even long trips won't warm up the engine to the normal operatong temperature. In order to see temp at 12 o'clock, you prolly have to drive 1/2 hour at least (in the city). I also remember taking a trip up North at those inhuman temperatures with my i6 and the temp needle NEVER made it to 12 o'clock. That is a 3 hour drive.
    And the cabin temp was balmy at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doru View Post
    We have bursts of -40°C to -50°C (-40°F to -48°F). Even long trips won't warm up the engine to the normal operatong temperature.
    Now THAT is crazy COLD! That is why we in New England never complain about the cold.

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    you guys maybe right but i dont have energy to do this job again and think ... what the hell ... maybe its a dipstick issue now ?

    this winter in IL was really cold hehe also my job is 1.5 miles from home ... install and forget if possible ... i also got some cash discount


    so before i will put manifold back any more suggestions ?
    Should I install CCV first on manifold with all pipes , right ?
    this job is hard ... sow many connections ...
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    If it was me ... I would change the dual temp sender on cylinder #6 (near firewall) as access is impossible with the IM back on.

    The dual temp sender does two things:

    1. temp signal to the gauge in your dash
    2. additional engine (coolant) temp sensor to the DME / ECU computer.

    If you do:

    A. intake camshaft positions sensor
    B. exhaust camshaft position sensor
    C. crankshaft position sensor
    D. lower coolant hose coolant temp sensor
    E. dual temp sensor

    ... then you'll be good to go on common failing sensors and you'll enjoy a little more reliability.

    This really is a good time to do the dual temp sensor.

    I've done all the rest ... when/ if my IM comes off, I'll do that one as well. I did not remove the IM when I replaced my pressure regulating valve. (CVV).


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    thanks jase007 , good info , but not this time , too much $$$ and a big mess

    just as you said i will replace #6 and all vacuum hoses around it and manifold gasket
    and a new CCV

    Then I will put all back , install new throttle body and air intake
    Then I will need throttle body adaptation value reset in DIS
    Then finally probably it will work LOL who knows
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    job is done, all ECU errors cleaned / resolved, car is running

    it took for me like 20-25 hours to replace oil filter gasket, manifold gasket ,
    Cold Weather CCV, vacuum hoses, new dipstick , new throttle,
    throttle adaptation values reset and some small staff
    the right part of engine is done ... no energy left for vanos
    The most difficult part was manifold removing / instalation ... took me a lot of time to set all these cables / hoses
    car runs just a little better ... i'm glad i solved my main issue - failed throttle body and installed CW CCV
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    Here is your $200 dipstick (top p/n: 11437565437) versus the original $30 (bottom p/n: 11437531258) comparison. Now you wonder why oil gets sucked into the intake if your CCV is clogged (with the original dipstick guide tube), huh? What kind of retarded engineering is this?

    I just did an overhaul job on my E46 that has an M54. OP, did you replace your starter and vacuum lines? I'd hate to do this job ever again. I went ahead and replaced everything under it--cooling pipes, hoses, and sensors.

    Did you clean your intake manifold? It took me about a week or so to clean it. I know it was impossible to get it completely cleaned because of the design--the lobes that come down to form the throttle body opening probably still has a little but of oil grime in but I emptied over a dozen Berryman carb cleaner, a gallon of Purple Power and Simple Green, and about half a liter of Dawn dishwashing soap, and finally several gallons of water with a pressure washer for each of those items I used. Additionally, I also submerged it in baths of those items overnight.
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    ya man job was too much complicated
    vacuum lines - yes , starter ?? no

    no i didn't clean intake manifold like you did ... a bath ... mmm...
    actually i wanted my car to run .. dont sure it can run after a bath hehe

    now after 1 week i see the difference . Cold start rough idle is almost gone
    Engine idle and acceleration is much better ... dont know if i need to work on double vanos now ...

    cool
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    Any idea where this o-ring is from? It's very clean and dry, so it may be from the new ccv?

    I got the new CCV in with the S hose connected, but I want to figure out what this is before I continue.

    HELP

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    size of the o-ring?




    Just replaced the intake gaskets, ccv, and stuffs in 3 hours flat.

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    It's 12mm outer diameter, 8mm inner, 2mm thick

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    Done and done. 2 guys (myself and Jackcat) did it in about 3 hours. We removed the intake and replaced ALL the o-rings and rubber gaskets. Its not all the difficult, just take your time and mark everything you disconnect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackcat559 View Post
    size of the o-ring?




    Just replaced the intake gaskets, ccv, and stuffs in 3 hours flat.
    Thanks again! Enzo loved his gift.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackcat559 View Post
    yes

    and on the m54 this job does suck. I'm helping a buddy with his soon and am not looking forward to it. Lucky enough, he's a pretty cool guy to waste an afternoon with

    HOLY SMOKE! That dip stick is $251 from Pelican

    http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...I1.x=9&I1.y=11

    Hey champaign777 do you have a a closer shot of the black & white check valve at the rear of the intake manifold? I'd like to double check mine is oriented correctly. Thanks
    How could you not have been excited!
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    this o-ring looks like from one of small CCV houses
    check also air distribution o-rings
    check also 1 dipstick o-ring

    this is all what i remember
    Last edited by champaign777; 05-16-2010 at 08:39 PM.

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    Edit:
    Could it be from the small tip on the top of the S-hose (#3)?


    You mean where #7 connects to #3 and is secured by #8? That's what I was referring to.

    My car has no #8 because #7 just snaps on. I could put it in there, but that wouldn't tell me if it's supposed to be there.

    Edit2:
    I put the O-ring on my old #3 where #7 slides over top of it.


    Seems a little loose, but it's the only remotely suitable location I've seen so far. Has anyone who bought a cold weather CCV seen this o-ring on there?
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    I believe that O-ring may be for the dipstick tube. I know that I rpelaced an o-ring at the base of the dipstick tube.

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