yer, or can use a diesel rad, they are dam wide and have the remote resevoir setup
Long time E34 owner
Now E39 530D touring Sport Auto
Do diesel rads have plastic end tanks? The purpose of this swap is not to get more cooling or because the M60 rads are expensive. It's because stock radiators suck and Zionsville is the only aftermarket option. I did the swap because my former radiator, no more than 3 years old, was already leaking from one of the end tanks.
Since I'm about to replace the radiator in my son's 530 I definitely want to go this route. So to be clear, after I get the Mishimoto E36 M3 aluminum radiator I will also need the two support cups (part nos 17111709332 & 17111709333) and a new lower radiator hose (part no. 11531741406) and modify the shroud according to the Bimmerzone pics. Is this all there is to it?
Jimmy Moreno
BMW CCA 115551
1986 535i, Arctic Blue
2012 X5 XDrive 501, Sparkling Bronze Metallic
I haven't tackled my shroud yet, but otherwise yes, that's all there is to it. No modification to anything is required.
You might also want a couple of upper mounting clips (17111712660) because there's a good chance you'll break the old ones when you take them off.
I just checked that lower hose part number and it changed to 11531741407 and it's only $18.90.
Jimmy Moreno
BMW CCA 115551
1986 535i, Arctic Blue
2012 X5 XDrive 501, Sparkling Bronze Metallic
this should go in the diy section for sure. Great work
So cool! I didnt know it would fit... i have this exact radiator in my e30, and i can tell you guys first hand that the quality is top notch on these radiators... i track my e30 pretty regularly and it has made a significant difference in keeping the temps down. rarely do i see the temp needle rise above midway, and thats on a TRACK day where i have the a/c going and idling in 100+ deg humid florida summer days. Im soooo picking one up for the e34 then, cant beat the price, PERIOD...
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.........THIS IS THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE..........
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1548409
OMG I'm so HAAAAAPPY!!!! In this wonderful thread I just found the answer to a question I've had for a while, which was what are my options for a cooler thermostat for an M60. I hadn't had any luck finding one on my own, but now the answer is right here!! Thanks Moroza, you rock!
Fox (back again, for now)
Any m30 guys ever do this?
Cool to know.
While I wouldn't call Mishimoto top quality, it's definitely one of the best "knock off" brands. There stuff has gotten a lot better over the years since they first started making stuff for imports. I wouldn't hesitate to run one.
lol @ people thinking this radiator will make your car run much cooler then OEM one and let alone last you longer then a properly installed and secured unit from Behr.
For me its not that i think my m60 will run cooler... its the piece of mind i get from an all alu radiator.
My m60's have gone thru 4 radiators in the past 5 years seems to be every other year. The OEM plastic goose necks break without warning. Leaving you quite vunerable to a horrible overheating situation.
With an all alu radiator this is not a concern.. And yes every radiator that has broken on my cars has broken in the same spot (upper rad hose)
Regards
Robbery
Here is what I bought. Being in Canada I didn't have many options.
http://www.cooldirect.ca/catalog/alu...324_10329.html
I'll take some pictures tonight.
No. Don't get 407; it's too long. You need 406. If you get 407, you will have to shorten it (which works fine, just doesn't look as clean as the correct hose).
Remember, the 406 hose is Euro-only. Parts vendors such as the dealer will attempt to steer you to the 407 (the only one on US-spec cars).
Glad to help.
Not that I know of, but see the Update at the end of the OP.
Lol @ you thinking a plastic radiator will last anywhere near as long as a metal one. Hell, even if the Mishimoto were made of plastic, the lifetime warranty alone would make it an improvement. This radiator mod isn't for cooler temps (though the tangential thermostat mod is); it's for having cooling system hardware that's up to the job. "Properly installed and secured"? The Mishimoto one installs just as securely as the factory one, because it uses factory mounting parts.
Last edited by moroza; 02-09-2011 at 06:49 PM.
Moroza:
Which end of the hose 407 needs to be cut, rad or pump side and by how much? (If you already know!) I couldn't order the 406 hose so I ordered the 407.
Jimmy Moreno
BMW CCA 115551
1986 535i, Arctic Blue
2012 X5 XDrive 501, Sparkling Bronze Metallic
Cut it in the middle. Look at my pics in post No.10. I've been driving with that contraption for 18k+ miles through everything between wangans in Yukon tundra and traffic jams in the Arizona desert. The pipe in the middle is the larger of the two aluminium pipes that run under the M6x intake manifold. I just took a cutoff wheel and file to shorten it.
So, my radiator conveniently took a shit. Looking to do this, but can't really deal with a delay because my car is dead at my school parking lot. What is the difference with the lower radiator hose? Why would the stock one not work? This looks like a good idea to do, I just can't be waiting for euro parts for weeks and weeks.
Edit: This is racerhoze with a 535.
Last edited by robisconfusedd; 02-18-2011 at 06:05 PM. Reason: I am retarded
Good thread, my brothers 03 540i is already on it's third OEM BEHR radiator. They suck.
e30 84 340i m6x powered.
e34 89 535i 5speed - current DD
e24 89 635csi - maybe a DD?
e34 93 525i (m50tu) - gone
e39 540i 6spd m-sport - gone
e53 x5 4.4l - gone
e30 89 325i (m20) - gone
Good thread, my brothers 03 540i is already on it's third OEM BEHR radiator. They suck.
e30 84 340i m6x powered.
e34 89 535i 5speed - current DD
e24 89 635csi - maybe a DD?
e34 93 525i (m50tu) - gone
e39 540i 6spd m-sport - gone
e53 x5 4.4l - gone
e30 89 325i (m20) - gone
Wow just replaced mine 2 months ago. Sounds like I'll have to do this soon anyhow.
Haven't I explained this several times already? One more time...
The aluminium radiator is 100mm narrower. The port (driver's side) end sits in the same position; the starboard end sits 100mm further inboard. The distance between the lower hose bung on the radiator (starboard side) and the waterpump is therefore 100mm shorter, and the hose also has to be 100mm shorter. The stock hose will kink and restrict flow. Either get the Euro-spec hose, or do what I did. Look at my pics and read my previous post that details what I used for the center pipe.
Anybody used this rad on an M50? My car is down while I sort out which way I am going to go and I would really like to eliminate the stock rad cracking again by going all aluminum. If anyone has gone this route with an M50 please step up, thanks!
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