Which E36 production runs had LSD?

[xlDooM]

Hey I spun my 316i once on power oversteer. In the rain. On a manhole cover. And I was dumping the clutch in second at corner entry.

[mwood]

all of this talk about LSD gives me flashbacks :|

on topic, that list is only for US based cars.
It does not list a 328is with a 5spd auto. Could I assume the 5sp auto for a M3 ( and its ratio ) is correct for my car?
It also shows no 6sp manual for M3, which were available in Europe.

[granlund]

US M3 had the same transmission as Euro 328 according to:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref....=on&showeur=on

The Euro M3 had a Getrag S6S420G:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_420G_transmission

[MParallel]

The Euro M3 had a Getrag S6S420G:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_420G_transmission

Yes, but only the 96+ 3.2 model that also has dual vanos.

The 3.0 shares the gearbox with the 328, the well known ZF box.

[ADUM]

I have a 92 325is with lsd and no winter package

Same minus the coupe(I have a four door)...

[mwood]

so my debate continues... burnouts in the parking garage today produced perfect twin marks... however the surface is proably so slippery that the diff cant decide what side to drive... ( yea automatic )

[MParallel]

^^
what is the debate? Whether you have an LSD or not?

[Morgion]

I have an 1994 325i manual 5-speed sedan with winter package (said winter package does not include heated seats) and stock LSD.

[teen ti]

everybody forgets the ti the 1995 318ti Clubsport came with a LSD, plus the whole car was handled by the M division

[Worstenemy453]

Following the correct trend. My 96 328i auto w/ heated seats has an open 3.91 diff. That 3.91 should be fun once i do my 5 speed swap. I need to find a LSD.

[mumblyjoe]

I honestly thought mine had one (as my friends equally optioned 328i Coupe with Sport package has one) but alas mine doesn't have it. So there are no set and fast rules regarding which cars had them, as they were a factory option. Only way is to jack the car up. Look for a metal tag at the rear of the diff. It should have the ratio on it and if it ends with an 'S', then it is an LSD.

E.g. 307S is 3.07 LSD, 293 is open 2.93 etc.

[Richkid79]

So does my 93 318i 5speed with heated manual seats come with LSD? What about my 94 325ic automatic with power seats, non heated and without ASC?... I love this topic

So does my 93 318i 5speed with heated manual seats and nmo ASC come with LSD? What about my 94 325ic automatic with power seats, non heated and without ASC?... I love this topic

[Tejj]

I have done so much research on this. My situation is, and bare with me; I have a 94' BMW 325is clean from cali. For some reason it leads me to believe it has the winter package. Don't know if it is originally from the west cause it has Idaho title. It has heated seats electric seats with the leg extension, believe it came with the ski bag but the previous owner took it. Has vanos and also it has asc+t so my guess is it does not have LSD due to the fact it has the traction control. I know how to check if it has LSD I'm just not home right now. Also if my throw bearing is toast and I can't put it in gear does the tire spin test still work in neutral? Thanks people

[granlund]

... it has asc+t so my guess is it does not have LSD due to the fact it has the traction control.

Correct. A friend of mine had one of these odd 1994 models where the ASC+T option deleted the LSD.

[MParallel]

Just put in the VIN in a decoder and see if the LSD option is listed.

[verobeach97]

318 with LSD sounds like a overengineering

[MParallel]

318 with LSD sounds like a overengineering

Physics apply to 318's as well.

[jc43089]

I recently bought a 3/93 325is that had heated seats, no ASC and 3.15 LSD if that helps.

[M3blitkrieg]

Its pretty simple to figure out. 1, decode vin and see if its a listed option. (It was always listed,right?). 2. If your car has asc it does not have lsd.(unless someone added it) 3. The jackstand and wheel spin while car in nuetral test. .. If you cant find the gumption to do those 3 things, it doesnt matter much to you anyway. Ha!

[MParallel]

No no no! Neutral test is not good. If not enough friction you will spin the driveshaft and wheels will spin in same direction, giving a false positive.

Instead put it in gear. If you can turn a wheel, the other will move the opposite way: open diff.

If you can't move a wheel: lsd.

Well unless there is zero preload left

[Bryceander98]

- If the car has traction control, it will not have an LSD.
- LSD came only with the winter package (heated seats... etc).
- All M3s have LSDs.
- If the car does not have TC, and does have the winter package... jack up the rear and test to be sure. There seems to be no absolute rule with these things.
- 1997+ cars came with traction control as standard.
- I am uncertain if 1996 cars without traction control and with winter package came with an LSD.
- OBD1 cars with winter package had LSDs.

I thought sport models came with an lsd also?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[JasonMHorn]

Does anyone know if the M Sport Package Verts came with a LSD? I know a guy parting out a 1998 328i M Sport Package Vert and I’m curious if it has a LSD. He’s not sure and isn’t to car savvy. He also lives two hours away so it’s not like I can just pop over to check. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

[jc43089]

You could look up the vin to see what options the car came with. As far as I know it was mostly the M3 and early cars with cold weather package. I have a 3/93 with heated seats, 3.15 LSD and no traction control throttle body. I assume because the traction control system wasn't ready for production.

That being said any car could have been ordered with an LSD.

[E36328Coupe]

Just put the VIN in a vin decoder and then check if it says LSD it still has one after 20+ years.


UK Euro 95 328 with Winter, no heated seats, no TC and LSD. Style 32 wheels seem to be common on the 328 with LSD of this age
UK Euro 94 325 with Mtech suspension and no LSD also on the drive

- - - Updated - - -

No no no! Neutral test is not good. If not enough friction you will spin the driveshaft and wheels will spin in same direction, giving a false positive.

Instead put it in gear. If you can turn a wheel, the other will move the opposite way: open diff.

If you can't move a wheel: lsd.

Well unless there is zero preload left

If you only lift one wheel off the floor, neutral will do

[spyderg0d]

Only one way to tell. Put it in gear. Lift both back wheels and see if they spin together (lsd) or opposite(open). Burnouts aren't accurate because open differentials will give equal movement when provided equal torque and traction. Spinning 1 wheel off the ground isnt accurate because the clutch packs can be worn bad and give a false reading or a less than spec torque to let loose. It's either spin both wheels or pull the cover, thats it. A vin decoder on a car that might of had even 3 owners in 25 years has a possibility of being messed with. I'm pretty positive that bmw did not offer lsd with a traction control system since it nullifies use for half of the tcs.
There would be only a use for the throttle body use, and completely negate any need for the braking abs/tcs part of the system.