Official APEX Wheels Showroom Gallery Thread

[MikeE36]

That is the hyper black finish, thanks

They look pretty silver once cleaned. I often forget I technically have a "black" wheel. They just get a bit darker with brake dust, but never look flat black or anywhere near that. They shine great in the light once clean.

-Mike

[3MPowered]

That is the hyper black finish, thanks

They look pretty silver once cleaned. I often forget I technically have a "black" wheel. They just get a bit darker with brake dust, but never look flat black or anywhere near that. They shine great in the light once clean.

-Mike

That's what threw me off, they look more gunmetal than "black," but hyper black is a much cooler name. So does the finish ever treuly look black aside from when they're dirty? I only ask because I'm considering a set in this finish

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

These were just posted on another forum

Owner comments:

330xi lowered with koni struts and H&R sport springs. Fenders are not rolled and i am not rubbing.
18x9" et42 square setup with 255/35/18 Continental Extreme Contact DWS

[MikeE36]

That's what threw me off, they look more gunmetal than "black," but hyper black is a much cooler name. So does the finish ever treuly look black aside from when they're dirty? I only ask because I'm considering a set in this finish

No, only the barrel looks black. The spokes never really look "black" to me. Not like a flat black at all. They're always a tone of silverish

-Mike

[96LTWM3]

@mike36 and mad dog

So how is the handling, running 245 with the 9.5?

Would you say this setup could work for track day use?

BTW your cars look PERFECT

[propcar]

@mike36 and mad dog

So how is the handling, running 245 with the 9.5?

Would you say this setup could work for track day use?

BTW your cars look PERFECT

I can't speak from experience but grassroots magazine did a comparison on one of their newer Miata projects, I think they went from a 17x9 with 245 or 255 to an 18x9.5 with 245/35 they reported better response in turn in, transition, slalom etc. which if I remember correctly got them a better time in the auto-x.

9.5" wheels are within spec for certain 245-35 tires albeit that's probably the limit of width, but having them at that configuration limits sidewall movement even more, which is good. Many autocrossers will say go 265 or 255... but that's probably kinda hard to fit with a street alignment and just rolled fenders.

[96LTWM3]

I can't speak from experience but grassroots magazine did a comparison on one of their newer Miata projects, I think they went from a 17x9 with 245 or 255 to an 18x9.5 with 245/35 they reported better response in turn in, transition, slalom etc. which if I remember correctly got them a better time in the auto-x.

9.5" wheels are within spec for certain 245-35 tires albeit that's probably the limit of width, but having them at that configuration limits sidewall movement even more, which is good. Many autocrossers will say go 265 or 255... but that's probably kinda hard to fit with a street alignment and just rolled fenders.

Wow, thanks for the info

I'm one step closer to going after the 18x9.5 w/ 245 square setup

[hiimadrummer]

Can someone explain to me the purpose of going for 9.5" wheels if you're not trying to fit 265s or 275s

[propcar]

Can someone explain to me the purpose of going for 9.5" wheels if you're not trying to fit 265s or 275s

read above...

245s can be used on a 9.5" wheel and the more limiting factor is that it is difficult to fit bigger tires and wider tires won't necessarily provide a huge benefit, they also weigh more.

[MikeE36]

Can someone explain to me the purpose of going for 9.5" wheels if you're not trying to fit 265s or 275s

Too much rubber is a bad thing for steering response. I can see you're in the "bigger is better" tire camp.

-Mike

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

The 9.5" ET35 wheel wasn't specifically made for the E36, but people really like the concavity, and it does work with 245's. If the wheel were produced in a high offset, then yes, you could get a 265 onto your E36 and keep the tires under the fender. We'll be producing a 10" wheel like that at some point this year, but that wheel too, will be an extreme setup, with different fitment issues of it's own. The goal of it would be to fit a 285/30/18 front and rear onto E36's and non-m E46's.

[daniellihomes1]

Hey Eddy,
I'm looking to purchase a set of the 18x9 Hyper Black within the next few days. By any chance do you have pics of a 255/35/18 tire mounted? Or should I call the office? Thanks

[xsport652]

The 9.5" ET35 wheel wasn't specifically made for the E36, but people really like the concavity, and it does work with 245's. If the wheel were produced in a high offset, then yes, you could get a 265 onto your E36 and keep the tires under the fender. We'll be producing a 10" wheel like that at some point this year, but that wheel too, will be an extreme setup, with different fitment issues of it's own. The goal of it would be to fit a 285/30/18 front and rear onto E36's and non-m E46's.

any chance of making a high offset 18x9.5 instead of the 10". As you already know the 18x10 is extremely hard to fit as it is now under stock fenders but a high offset 18x9.5 with 265/35's would be very achievable.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Hey Eddy,
I'm looking to purchase a set of the 18x9 Hyper Black within the next few days. By any chance do you have pics of a 255/35/18 tire mounted? Or should I call the office? Thanks

I don't have any pictures of this. It's a common E36 setup, but few E36 customers send us photos once they're mounted.

any chance of making a high offset 18x9.5 instead of the 10". As you already know the 18x10 is extremely hard to fit as it is now under stock fenders but a high offset 18x9.5 with 265/35's would be very achievable.

265's already fit onto the 9" wheel. Yes a 9.5" wheel would provide better sidewall support, but a minimum number of sets need to be produced to start a production run. There are more applications (E46/E90) that could use the 18x10" setup. 285's are preferred on a 10" wheel, so it would be difficult to produce a new width simply for the tall 265 tire that is already mountable.

[jeremy5000]

Do you think I could get by on 18x9.5s on 245/35/18s on my e36 with only rolling rears?

[MikeE36]

Do you think I could get by on 18x9.5s on 245/35/18s on my e36 with only rolling rears?

No. Need to roll all of them. Will also need camber adjustability front and rear.

-Mike

[jeremy5000]

No. Need to roll all of them. Will also need camber adjustability front and rear.

-Mike

I think I will just stick with my 17x9s then until the 18x10s come out.

[hyboost]

18x9.5 rears on our e36 m3. We will be fitting the 18x9.5's on our e30 m3 race car trying to squeeze a 255/35/18 Hoosier in the back for some needed traction (s54 swap). I'll post those pics when/if we make it work.






Looking back at it, we should have done the 18x9.5's in the front as well. There is plenty of room under there for them.

[WongWay]

Hyboost,
Is that Hyper Silver? What size tires are you running on the back?

[hyboost]

Yes, hyper silver. 245/35/18. Fender rolled, slightly pulled, nothing too crazy on rear camber. Absolutely zero rubbing...

[96LTWM3]

18x9.5 rears on our e36 m3. We will be fitting the 18x9.5's on our e30 m3 race car trying to squeeze a 255/35/18 Hoosier in the back for some needed traction (s54 swap). I'll post those pics when/if we make it work.






Looking back at it, we should have done the 18x9.5's in the front as well. There is plenty of room under there for them.

Your car looks TiTS man, how is the handling?
Would you recommend your staggered setup or 9.5 all around?
My car has to be purposeful and sacrificing handling is not an option

All the responses thus far have been hugely informative
Thanks everyone

[hyboost]

Your car looks TiTS man, how is the handling?
Would you recommend your staggered setup or 9.5 all around?
My car has to be purposeful and sacrificing handling is not an option

All the responses thus far have been hugely informative
Thanks everyone

If I had to do it again, I would do 18x9.5 front. We ended up doing 10mm spacers up front for the 18x8.5 to make it match the aggressiveness of the rears.

Handling is great. We are running a decent suspention from Ground Control which may be a little too much for the street, so its hard to give credit to the wheels/tires vs. the coilovers. I've thrown the car around the streets and it handles like a dream.

(This is actually my dad's car. He got tired of watching me have all the fun with my e30 m3 race car and e60 m5 street car...so he did a full restore on this and it is PERFECT. Looks absolutely brand new with every single thing replaced with brand new parts. Its good to see the old man running around in this )

[96LTWM3]

Cheers, your E36 is flawless

Looks like I'll be locking down a set of 18x9.5 hypersilver

I have an alpine white 96 M3 and I think my double spoke 24 are ready to be replaced

HYBOOST, thanks for the info

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Yes, hyper silver. 245/35/18. Fender rolled, slightly pulled, nothing too crazy on rear camber. Absolutely zero rubbing...

I spent 30 minutes searching for those photos earlier today! I'm so glad you posted them.

I've been in love with your E30 M3 for a long time, I'm honestly excited that you're running the ARC-8's on one of your projects. I wish the E30 M3 was on them though

[hyboost]

I spent 30 minutes searching for those photos earlier today! I'm so glad you posted them.

I've been in love with your E30 M3 for a long time, I'm honestly excited that you're running the ARC-8's on one of your projects. I wish the E30 M3 was on them though

Thanks
We will be using one of the 18x9.5's off the e36 to test fit a 255/35/18 hoosier on the e30 m3 race car. We are running 245/40/17 hoosiers right now, and the 255 is exactly 1" wider (hoosier just added the 1" of rubber to their 245/35/18 tire). Overall diameter is expected to be the same as the 17" 40 series, so it "should" fit (fenders are already rolled/pulled). I realize 18" looks big on the e30, but tire availability is moving us in that direction. If it works, I'll place an order for a few sets with you and post pics of the final setup.