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    what less than $500 headers???

    ok so i had a couple of project... some still ongoing... but yeah spring is here... some performance time..

    so i was reading up on gumbi's LSD writeups and we came to a part where he was looking at headers next... well jackeatsemokids brought something up that intrigued me...
    Quote Originally Posted by JackEatsEmoKids View Post
    AA headers are ebay headers with coating! Ask me how I know.
    well i also read up on e46 fanatics cause alot of the guys have done this
    http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=ebay+header

    so some specifics of the difference of m54 headers are none... i did some research on supersprint's website and the z3/e46/z4/x3/e39 that all share the m54 engine use the same part no header... ill see if the O2 bungs are different but it looks good so far...
    use pn.022 787 401 (from supersprint) and search both supersprintna.com /eurosportdesign.com... the results

    http://www.eurosportdesign.com/searc...++++++++++++++[req][len%3D3][blankalert%3DPlease+enter+something+to+search+for!]%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


    i talked to http://www.performancecoatings.com/ to see how much it is to coat the headers... they said inside and out would be $200 so the total is running about 400



    its also best to run new oem gaskets and copper studs... so im assuming 50 at the most...

    also to run without cats and not get any faults you need to run defoulers to space the o2 sensors and not be in the exhaust gas to fool the sensors the post cat ones atleast.... in seattle we only get a OBDII test if we pass or fail inspection so easy enough...

    http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...lug+non-fouler

    well finally to get them in it should cost between 150-200 im assuming... im gonna ask my shop when i get my abs module recoded...

    finally here are the pics...






    well some foot notes...


    the difference between m54 and m52 headers

    m54 are longer and may have different flange directions... the m52 are significantly shorter but can be bought and adjusted by your shop... but i bought m54 specific ones...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270364405939&sspagenam e=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=

    heres where i got my headers from... according to the e46 guys this seller is reliable to send M54 headers
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    update i got the headers in... im getting them pressure tested and check the welds they looked ok... but id rather be sure before i put them in... then off to the ceramic coaters... then into my car... wish me luck
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    quack my attention span is really short .. can you give me a cliff note verison ..
    does the thing fit or what
    and any idea the labor cost?


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    i havent put them on yet... its a begining thing... havent checked fitment... theyre getting pressure tested then onto the ceramic coaters then to fitment... my shop works at 85 bucks an hour... and like 2-3 hours for the install... i can do it but id rather not waste my time... but im excited cause im sure catless will be great for my dsc module and for the headers with cats on them off my car... but as i wrote... all the m54s have the same headers cause supersprint lists them all the same... same part no etc etc....

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    Hey Quacks. I got your im. I went through it and i remember reading that about a year ago as well. I MIGHT do headers but not on the top of my list. Forked out bucks for a bbk and wheels are around the corner. Be the guinea pig!!

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    yeah will be the first e39 with them...

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    cant wait for the outcome. hope it all turns out positive

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    OK Quak, now that you have the headers take a look at the inside of them. I bought a set of these ebay headers to compare to SS ones I have. There were some minor differences, but two things should be noted. Check for protruding o2 bungs into the exhaust flow, and the inner joint of the exhaust flange to the pipe, it should be a smooth transition..





    And talk about getting no credit....
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    1Nawty5 has them on his 5 already. But he bought some other ebay ones....those bolted up.

    But I'm telling you, they won't bolt on to the bottom of your exhaust...I've done this before to other 5's.

    And you might have to clean up the o2 bongs and ports of the header. Good luck!!!

    You shoudl really get a cat....trust me. www.easterncatalytic.com get a 200 cell metallic cat.
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    Yep, he's lookin' at a whole new system.

    Be careful with the cheaper coatings. I've seen a few flake after a year or two
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    take some close up pics of the headers whens you recieve em so we can check out the quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackEatsEmoKids View Post
    1Nawty5 has them on his 5 already. But he bought some other ebay ones....those bolted up.

    But I'm telling you, they won't bolt on to the bottom of your exhaust...I've done this before to other 5's.

    And you might have to clean up the o2 bongs and ports of the header. Good luck!!!

    You shoudl really get a cat....trust me. www.easterncatalytic.com get a 200 cell metallic cat.
    hey are you sure the people you put the headers in for bought the right headers it's a known prblem with the eBay vendors that they send out 328/528(m52) headers
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackcat559 View Post
    Yep, he's lookin' at a whole new system.

    Be careful with the cheaper coatings. I've seen a few flake after a year or two

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    yep, that's why when you PM'd me about the cost of installing these type headers in my my e39 I gave you a total final $$$ including new pipes, cat, muffler...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackEatsEmoKids View Post
    1Nawty5 has them on his 5 already. But he bought some other ebay ones....those bolted up.

    But I'm telling you, they won't bolt on to the bottom of your exhaust...I've done this before to other 5's.

    And you might have to clean up the o2 bongs and ports of the header. Good luck!!!

    You shoudl really get a cat....trust me. www.easterncatalytic.com get a 200 cell metallic cat.

    Thanks would the 200 cell metallic work for a 540?

    Quote Originally Posted by quacktoduck View Post
    i havent put them on yet... its a begining thing... havent checked fitment... theyre getting pressure tested then onto the ceramic coaters then to fitment... my shop works at 85 bucks an hour... and like 2-3 hours for the install... i can do it but id rather not waste my time... but im excited cause im sure catless will be great for my dsc module and for the headers with cats on them off my car... but as i wrote... all the m54s have the same headers cause supersprint lists them all the same... same part no etc etc....
    Good luck with your project.

    Checked the site race cats good for up to 4.0L. Question answerd
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    my headers got pressure tested and they are good... they are going to the ceramic coaters next...

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    A header (one that fits perfectly) install is a MAJOR PITA. If there is any fab work or issues involved, you are looking at one big fat install bill.

    DIY that or you will get reamed.

    Also, if they are of decent stainless steel, there is no real need to coat them. Ceramic coating is really to preserve mild steel headers and/or racers w/ SS headers who want to keep underhood temps a bit lower. For a NA street car, I would not bother coating SS headers . . .
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    whats the update on the headers?

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    just been waiting for my next paycheck... then they go to the coaters... i got some led lights for the members here and im just doing that...

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    koo. let me know how they fit cuz i want headers too =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by quacktoduck View Post
    just been waiting for my next paycheck... then they go to the coaters... i got some led lights for the members here and im just doing that...
    I got mine tuesday...$106 shipped for an E36, I'm just going to flange them myself and finish my exhaust.

    Good luck with yours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackEatsEmoKids View Post
    I got mine tuesday...$106 shipped for an E36, I'm just going to flange them myself and finish my exhaust.

    Good luck with yours!
    nice... i dont have welding equipment and all.. but im glad i got them... you gonna ceramic coat them??

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    i got my set for a m52 before now they are the correct m54 set, gonna get them leak tested, then im gonna send the mout to the ceramic coaters next week, then off the get them installed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by quacktoduck View Post
    i got my set for a m52 before now they are the correct m54 set, gonna get them leak tested, then im gonna send the mout to the ceramic coaters next week, then off the get them installed...
    i want this for my 8 cyl.. any knowledge on that engine?
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