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  1. #76
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    This job is next on my to-do list for my '99 540iT. Just replaced both air springs.

    How did BlackBMWs clean his suspension so well? That aluminum looks shiny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjamesturner
    This job is next on my to-do list for my '99 540iT. Just replaced both air springs.

    How did BlackBMWs clean his suspension so well? That aluminum looks shiny!
    Pressure washer first, then a brush and simple green/ purple power cleaner and a low flow rinse when I had the car up on stands while laying on a creeper. I took the extra time to get a good, unobstructed view of all the rear suspension components to make my project list. Took a few hours to get it that clean.

    Cheers!

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    1998 318ti Cali Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 23
    1997 318ti Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 68 ,

    1995 318ti Active - Alpineweib III/Schwartz, squared style 32
    1994 325i - Bostongrau/Tan, Billy Sports, H&R springs
    1991 318ic - Schwarz/Anthratz Stoff, Bilstien HD, Z4 3.0 SS, Magnaflow, S/S Stress bar, x-brace, M20 FW, Elipsoid/HID, K&N

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    1995 318ti Sport Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz - Sold
    1985 635CSI - Schwartz\Sand - Sold

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    How do I get a hold of rental press?

    Quote Originally Posted by jase007 View Post
    Well done.

    Looks great!
    Can someone please send me jase007 contact info?

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    Hi Cornerman.

    Can't PM or email you because of your settings in User CP.

    My email is my username on this forum [at] a o l {dot} c o m

    Cheers.
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    emailing now.

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    Can you tell me which bilstein rear shocks you have or had on your touring?
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    I would also like to know which shocks you have installed. I have the Dinan Stage 3 suspension kit on my 2003 540iT but it lacks rear suspension upgrades. Only front shocks, camber plates, and swaybars and bushings.

    I need to do this subframe job too, so while i'm in there I want to do the rear shocks and anything else that is accessible. I assume a lift will make this all much easier. Good thing I have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cboling67 View Post
    Can you tell me which bilstein rear shocks you have or had on your touring?
    Greetings! Sorry for the late response, Bilstien Sport shocks for the rear. HD's up front. I wanted to go HD's all around, but there were none for the Tours at the time of the replacement.

    I did end up confirming the selection with Bilstien tech support when I was deciding.

    Cheers!

    1999 540it - Schwartz II/Sand Beige, style 5 rims, Conti DWS 235/45 tires, Billy HD/Sports, Stoptech S/S BL, F1 Pinacle 35% tint, Zionsville Cooling kit
    1998 318ti Cali Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 23
    1997 318ti Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 68 ,

    1995 318ti Active - Alpineweib III/Schwartz, squared style 32
    1994 325i - Bostongrau/Tan, Billy Sports, H&R springs
    1991 318ic - Schwarz/Anthratz Stoff, Bilstien HD, Z4 3.0 SS, Magnaflow, S/S Stress bar, x-brace, M20 FW, Elipsoid/HID, K&N

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    1995 318ti Sport Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz - Sold
    1985 635CSI - Schwartz\Sand - Sold

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    Completed my rear subframe bushing swap today on my 2003 540iT with about 63k miles and Dinan stage 3 suspension (lowered since 25k miles) - special thanks to BlackBMWs for this post and extra special thanks to jase007 for the gobs of advice and for the tool rental. As soon as the bushings set overnight and I have a chance to test drive tomorrow night, I'll send the tool back. I also tossed in some Bilstein Sport shocks in the rear to hopefully provide a nice match for the Dinan kit already on the car.

    Mine went pretty well, although I used my lift and a high-lift jackstand rather than doing this on the floor. It made most of the job much easier, but some of it a bit harder.

    My bushings didn't look too bad, but did show beginning signs of cracking and dry rot like the photos of BlackBMWs's in the first post.

    Some notes from my install that may help others in the future:

    1) I found it much easier to remove the lower nut from the auto leveling sensor from the swingarm rather than trying to break the old, brittle electrical sensor connections free and risk breaking them.

    2) When re-installing the new bushings, I found that the upper half of the installation tool with the notch in it did NOT quite seat all the way around the bushing "socket hole" for lack of a better word. I had no choice but to use the notch to prevent it from rotating and the other side was simply not fully seated on to the subframe. The bushing ended up seating properly, but it was a bit worrisome that none of the four holes would fit with the bushing tool.

    3) The tool was a pleasure to use and works extremely well. The instructions in the PDF provided by jase007 indicate not to use air tools to remove the old bushing, which I heeded, but didn't mention about re-installation. I decided to try it, stopping every few turns to check for heat in the main shaft, and there was none. You can easily use air tools for installing the new bushings provided there's no heat in the shaft and you are very careful.

    4) I chose to spray the bushing seating area with brake cleaner and then wipe it dry and clean with a towel.

    5) I had some trouble lining up the subframe when doing the final OEM bolt re-installation. I had to drop my exhaust down (Magnaflow, not OEM) and also first install the two rear-most subframe retaining bolts, then move the transmission jack toward the front of the car and use it to jack the front part of the subframe into the proper position so that I could put the OEM bolts back in. It took some careful wheeling and dealing but everything finally went back together properly.

    6) Torquing to 120 ft-lbs with a torque wrench over your head is not easy when you only weigh 160lb. I had to stand on a ladder and even then brace myself against the car to get it done.

    I only took two photos using my phone cam. Here they are:


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    Bushings ? Are they the same part for sport suspension as regular in the touring

    Just wondering if the subframe bushings are universal for the 99 wagons

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    Post AFT47 Touring Rear suspension bushing removal tool available

    I will be finished w/ the rear suspension bushing replacement this weekend on my 2000 528iT & will have the removal tool available for rent or purchase. It is a Franklin AFT47 for the Touring ONLY. The sedan uses the AFT45, I believe. Please contact me if you're interested.

    I'm very pleased w/ how easy the tool makes the job. Very clever design.

    btw, the threaded rod in the pic is 14mm x 1.5 pitch.

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    Hi there, I have a question about what emulsion rubber fluid I need use when I fitting the bushes? Where I can buy it? I find something like this, this is any good?:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2207682591...#ht_2034wt_689

    Thanks for any help, I'm really appreciate. Martin
    Last edited by MartinWilam; 02-18-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    Here in the States we typically use something called P-80. If you can get that I know it works as that's what I used.

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    Hmm p-80.. But I'm from UK and I can't find this in here. Can use anything similar?? If yes what this gonna be?? Or do I need use any lubricant at all, I mean install bushes without any lub???

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    Have you looked on eBay, that's where I got mine. You will need a lube, you'll probably end up tearing up the bushings without it. Don't try dishsoap as that never really dries and people have had the bushings slide down when that was used. 2 of these would probably work and they ship worldwide: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seal-O-Ring-...item255637e78c

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    Hello, maybe someone has bushing housing inner and outer diameters in cm? Or bushing diameters? Marker in red arrows.



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    Ok I'm in the beginning stages of this DIY. But I can't seem to break loose the bolts on the bushings. It's extremely stiff and it's moving, but there is no way I can use a ratchet to undo them. I've been using my breaker bar to turn it about a quarter turn for the last 30 mins. Anyone have any suggestions to make taking them off easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djkev
    Ok I'm in the beginning stages of this DIY. But I can't seem to break loose the bolts on the bushings. It's extremely stiff and it's moving, but there is no way I can use a ratchet to undo them. I've been using my breaker bar to turn it about a quarter turn for the last 30 mins. Anyone have any suggestions to make taking them off easier?
    Just saw this. I believe I used 3/8" ratchet with a 22" handle to loosen the bolts. I remember it was a bit like rowing as the bolt was tight.

    1999 540it - Schwartz II/Sand Beige, style 5 rims, Conti DWS 235/45 tires, Billy HD/Sports, Stoptech S/S BL, F1 Pinacle 35% tint, Zionsville Cooling kit
    1998 318ti Cali Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 23
    1997 318ti Sport - Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz, staggered style 68 ,

    1995 318ti Active - Alpineweib III/Schwartz, squared style 32
    1994 325i - Bostongrau/Tan, Billy Sports, H&R springs
    1991 318ic - Schwarz/Anthratz Stoff, Bilstien HD, Z4 3.0 SS, Magnaflow, S/S Stress bar, x-brace, M20 FW, Elipsoid/HID, K&N

    BMWCCA# 160411

    1995 318ti Sport Schwartz II/Schwartz Anthratz - Sold
    1985 635CSI - Schwartz\Sand - Sold

    1984 533i "Max" - Schwarz/Schwarz, - Sold
    1984 318i - Champagne/Tan, Stock - Sold

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    hey jason, was wondering, how soon can i rent the tool from you, to remove the rear subframe bushings on my 99 bmw 528it? please let me know as soon as possible
    thanks

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    Bilstein rear shocks on touring

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBMWs View Post
    Touring Brothers,

    No rain today, so I took a vacation day to replace the Rear Suspension Subframe Bushings on my 1999 540i Tour.

    These Subframe Bushings are the connection point between the Rear Suspension Subframe and the bottom of the Tours undercarriage. The Rear Suspension Subframe contains the shocks, air springs, differencial, axle, rear control arms, wheel hub, brakes and wheels. You know, important stuff. All fastened to the body with these four Subframe Bushings.


    These bushings are a common failure point for E39 Tourings. I had read various posts that these Subframe Bushings start to fail around 80-100k miles. The E39 Sedans don't seem to have this same problem. My non-sport 540it has 81k miles on it. Upon a brief inspection during my rear shock replacement, I found the two front subframe bushings on the rear suspension subframe had developed cracks in them and that was enough for me to decide to replace all 4 of them.

    In previous DIYs, I had replaced the rear shocks and front suspension components. I have been seeking to renew my overall suspension from a soft, loose, questionable ride to a firmer, tighter, quieter, confidence building, awesome daily driving experience. This DIY is one in a sequence of DIYs to renew my Ultimate Driving Touring Machine.

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    Preperation: Tools and Consumables

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    For this DIY, here's most of the tools and consumables I used:


    Not pictured are 4 wheel chocks, a floor jack, clean shop rags, 1/2" ratchet, 1/2" Torque Wrench, 2" long 1/2" inch socket extension and deep 21, 22 and 24mm sockets. I also printed off a copy of the DIY instructions as reference while I was performing the task. The Bentley manual was not much use for this DIY.

    I also did not have to use the Brake Cleaner in the picture for this DIY, although in different posts, it was recommended to have it handy, just in case...

    I purchased the Subframe Bushings from EAC Tuning for $107 shipped each. Took about two weeks for delivery from the dealer.

    The key to getting this job done is the Subframe Bushing removal tool. I was lucky enough to rent one from jase007.



    The rental kit jase007 rents out includes: The Franklin bushing tool with DIY instructions, tool description/instructions, four subframe extension rods and nuts, Moly grease and rubber bushing emulsion fluid. Contact jase007 if you have a future need for the tool, as there is a waiting list. I waited about four weeks between contacting jase007 and receiving the tool.

    I won't duplicate the instructions that come with the tool, as there's not enough room for one post, but will show the main points in the process. Jase007's instructions are well written and easy to follow.

    This DIY took me 5 hours. I suspect the next install we do tomorrow will go much faster, as I took my time and stopped to take photos along the way today.

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    Part I: Lowering the Rear Subframe

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    First thing was to loosen the wheel lugs on the back wheels, chock both sides of the front wheels, and jack the rear end up and get the Tour up on stands.

    Once the car was up and the back wheels removed, I sprayed PB Blaster into the top seam of all four bushings.

    I also sprayed the rear suspension self leveling sensor connectors with WD-40. While letting the PB blaster and WD-40 soak in, I collected the needed tools and consumables.

    I then disconnected the electrical connector from each of the self leveling sensors. The passenger side sensor wire was difficult to just get the clip off. I used a 10mm ratcheting open end to remove the one retaining nut to remove the sensor from it's mount, then was able to unclip the sensor. I reinstalled the sensor without it's sensor wire as I didn't want it hanging around and potentially get damaged while the rear subframe was being raised and lowered.



    Next, I marked the old bushings with painted reference marks at the two points where the subframe arm that holds the bushing attach to the subframe bushing frame. I copied the reference marks to the new bushings later on during the bushing installation process. The importance of this mark is to line up the new bushing properly on a forward/aft orientation during reinstallation.



    I then used a floor jack to lift up the rear subframe against the body. I used the differencial case as the lifting point with a jackpad on my jack. Do not position the jack on the seam between the case and the case cover. Only use the diif case itself. Don't lift the car off the jack stands.


    I uncliped the wheelwell clips that attached to the subframe bushing bottom retaining plate.


    Next, I used a 25" 1/2" breaker bar with a 21mm socket to loosen, but not remove, all four subframe bushing attachment bolts.


    The next step, is to replace the bushing retaining bolts with a extension rod and nut combo that is longer then the attachment bolt. 4 rods will be placed in place of the original attachment bolts. The longer length rod will permit the suspension subframe to be lowered 2.5" to permit the bushing tool to have enough room to operate.


    When placing the extension rods in place, they must be screwed in only hand tight about 2". I used the original subframe bottom plate with the extension rods. I placed the bottom bushing retaining plate on the rod, followed by one of the kit supplied nuts.

    The front and rear bushing bottom retaining plates are different. The ones for the rear have a rubber pad on the bushing side of the plate. The front plates have no pad.

    Leave the retaining plate and nut about 2 1/2 inches lower than the bottom of the bushing. When all four are in place, SLOWLY lower the height of the floorjack to lower the subframe on to the extended rods. I needed 2" of clearance for the bushing caps that go on top of the actual bushing for removal or subframe bushing retaining ring for reinstallation.


    Prep is done. Now on to removing the first bushing...

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    Part II: Removing the Subframe Bushings

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    As part of the kit, there are both jase007's instructions as well as the use instructions from Frankin Tool company.

    The main thing in both the removal and replacment of the bushings is to keep the main shaft both clean and well greased. This will keep friction low, generated heat down and preserve the tool itself. Because of the pressure involved in removing the bushing, power or air tools cannot be used to operate the tool as they will damage the tool. Only hand wrenchs or ratchets can be used. Clean the main shft before your first use and check it before every subsuquent use.


    Place the small bushing removal bearing cap on the top of the old subframe bushing. Thread the main shaft of the tool through the bearing and screw it into the top cap bearing. In this shot, you can see why you need the 2" of clearance. Now is a good time to grease the main shaft using the Moly grease included in the kit.


    There are a pair of collets that fit into indentations on the bottom of the old bushings. Then the main body of the bushing receiver goes over them, followed by the ball bearing and nut assembly.


    Once the removal sleeve and ball bearing/nut is assembled on the bushing tool, it's time to crank the bottom nut on the tool. I used a deep socket 24mm with a 1/2 ratchet to crank the nut. While cranking, you will hear tearing sounds as the previous emulsion tears away from the subframe assembly. About halfway through the removal, I sprayed the top of the bearing seam with WD-40 to help the bearing slide through. When the deep socket will no longer work, due to the shaft pushing it out, use a 24mm box or open end wrench to complete the removal.


    When the bearing reached the bottom of the receiver, I rocked the tool from side to side to remove the last portion of the bearing. This pic shows the tool with the bearing within. Disassemble the tool to remove the bearing.


    The first bearing is now out. The next step is to prepare and install the new subframe bushing.

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    Part III: Subframe Bushing Installation

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    Installing the Subframe Bushings uses two other caps, the main shaft and the ball bearing/nut assembly to press the bushing into place.

    First, clean the inside of the subframe bushing frame. Since I used PB Blaster and WD-40 to loosen the bushing, it actually cleaned the inside of the subframe bushing receiver. I just had to wipe it clean. Here's a view looking from the bottom of the Subframe Bushing receiver ring, up to the bottom of the body connection point up before I wiped the ring out.



    Transfer the reference marks from the old bushing to the new bushing. Again, the importance of this is to line up the new bushing properly on a forward/aft orientation. There are a pair of arrows on the top of the bushing to orient as well, but they cant be seen during installation, hence the suggested markings on the new bushings.

    Place the bushing tool cap with the notch in it. The notch aligns and locks into a ridge on the Subframe Bushing mount.

    Check, clean and grease the main shaft. Thread the main shaft up from the bottom and loosley hand tighten. Use the included rubber emulsion liquid on the upper part of the bushing. The emulsion lubricates the bushing for reinstalling then dries to secure help secure the bushing in-place.

    Position the new subframe bushing followed by the end cap and ball bearing/Nut assembly. The end cap has two raised tabs on it that fit in the bottom of the new bushing. Align the painted reference marks on the bushing to the subframe arm reference points per the Tool instructions.


    Tighten the 24mm nut with a 24mm deep socket, followed by a 24mm box end wrench when the socket is no longer deep enough. Tighten until the bushing is snug, but not overly tight.

    The painted reference marks I made should line up with the end of the arm that is welded to the bushing retaining ring.


    Once the new bushing is in-place, replace the extended rod, bottom retaining plate and nuts and repeat the removal and installation process to the other three bushings.

    *** Just a note, on the 540it, the rear drivers side Subframe Bushing mount won't lower as low as the other mounts due to the exhaust system in the way. There should be just enough room to lever the mount down to slip the top caps in-place. I used a 24mm open end wrench as a lever and got the required clearance with little effort or strain. For Dinan E39's installation, he had to remove the Dinan exhaust from it's rear mount to permit the required clearance for his modified exhaust.

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    Part IV: Completing the DIY

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    When all bushings are replaced and all extension rods are in-place, use the floor jack to again raise the suspension subframe back up to the body. Be sure you only raise the rear suspension subframe and not the car off the stands.

    *** On the second tour we did, we had to help align the rear subframe assembly back up to meet the body attachment points by jiggeling the rear suspension so it would travel up the rods. We also moved the jack pad further back towards the end of the differencial case to push the rear of the rear suspension up. Do not position the jack on the seam between the case and the case cover. Expensive damage may occur to the cover on improper positioning.

    Once up, replace the extension rods, one by one with the original attachment bolt and lower retaining plate. Be sure to put the lower bushing retaining plates with the rubber pads on the rear bushings.

    Once all are original attachment bolts are reinstalled, check again to ensure the car is solid on the jack stands before tightening the bolts. Torque the attachment bolts to 120 ft/lbs.


    Reattach the self leveling connections back onto the sensors.


    Reattach the wheelwell clips to the bushing lower plate.


    Remount the wheels and torque them to 80 ft/lbs. It was a good time to clean the inside of the style 5's again while they were off the Tour.


    The emulsion liquid on the bushings needs 3-4 hours to set. Jase007 recommended to let it set overnight, so I'll test drive it tomorrow morning. Good time to clean the underbody.


    Tomorrow, I'll take the Tour for a short spin before we work on the next Tour. It will be interesting to see what type of handling and ride change it will make.

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    Part V: Observations and comments

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    So, all four of my subframe bushings were cracked and empty of fluid. The front two were cracked both top and bottom and the rear bushings were cracked in the bottom. My 540it only had 81k miles. (New bushing on left, one of the busted ones on the right)

    Mileage seems to be indifferent as far as bushing damage. My bushings at 81k miles looked as bad (or worse) than Dinan E39s at 120k+. I wonder if they actually fail closer to 60k miles than 80k.



    On my test drive, I notice swifter response to throttle pedal inputs. I mean, it feels like the rear end of the Tour is sticking so much better than before with no hesitation. We reasoned that when the bearings wear out, on accelleration, it would allow the rear suspension to pivot for the travel of the damaged bushing before the the body set. Definately a more solid feel and setting up for a turn no longer has a hesitation or shifting feel to it. The rear end definately feels more planted. I didn't have any noise associated with the bushings. Dinan E39 did have some body ratteling noise which was eliminated with this fix.

    For me, it is a noticable improvement, similar to the experience of replacing my rear shocks a few weeks ago.

    Update: It poured rain today, it was a DSC kind of day. I had a 45 mile sprint each way to take care of a chore. The Tour was much more planted and stable through both legs. On the return trip, I followed some wet twisties home and the Tour's stability was definately noticible. The Tour is more neutral. stable and set in it's path.

    This was not a difficult DIY at all, thanks to the really cool bushing tool and great instructions by jase007. He's got the better DIY.

    My install by myself took 5 hours. Dinan E39, Mike and I knocked his off in 2.5 hours. I encourage anyone who has the knocking or loosness in their Tour to take this DIY on.

    Brake system overhaul next... Cheers!
    Black bmws what model version of the bilsteins are you using on the rear of touring?

    Regards,

    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaym540i View Post
    Black bmws what model version of the bilsteins are you using on the rear of touring?

    Regards,

    Jay
    He's running Bilstein Sports

    Jared
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    Has anyone have any experience with polyurethane bushes? Are they really better than oem?

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    Just completed the rear subframe bushing replacement. It was very easy to do with the Franklin tool. I used the directions in this post for the removal/re-installation of the bushings and everything goes as stated. My two forward subframe bushings were complete toast while the rear ones were in bad condition. All of the fluid had oozed out of the bushings. I had an immediate handling and body noise transmission improvement. This is a worthwhile repair improvement for any touring owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumtech View Post
    Has anyone have any experience with polyurethane bushes? Are they really better than oem?
    Poly are too hard and there's no reason to go with them. The Meyle HDs are not fluid filled and won't fail early like the OEM ones.
    http://www.eaceuroparts.com/catalog/product/437


    Otherwise, go with OEM.
    http://www.eaceuroparts.com/parts/pa...%20094%20036/3
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