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Thread: E39 Touring Rear Subframe Bushing replacement

  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by av8r4aa View Post
    Just did it with Jason's special tool. He speaketh the gospel.
    And the verdict is.........

    Worth every penny?

  2. #152
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    I replaced the bushings in our 2000 528iT with Jason's tool back in 0ct 2012. Huge different, not so much in how it handled but in hitting bumps and going over speed bumps. With bad bushings, it almost feels like a huge shock wave going through the car from the rear. With new bushings, it feels like a normal car.

    Anyone care to share how their replacements are holding up? 2 yrs and 35k miles later, it feels like it needs new bushings. We are moving on to a E61 535xi T but the E39 is staying in the family so I will need to replace the bushings at some point later in the year, hopefully to the Meyle HD versions.

  3. #153
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    can someone advise which is the tool from harbor freight that they used?

    the link for the people who rent it is no longer working and their home page just talks about special coatings for guns

    i can only find this one:

    http://www.harborfreight.com/bushing...set-68971.html


    edit: also found this one at amazon, will it work?

    thanks

    http://www.amazon.com/Mercedes-Insta...r+bushing+tool

  4. #154
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    Fredvent:

    I am < 10 miles from you and have the touring subframe bushing tool for rent.

    Let me know if you want to rent it and we can arrange a drop-off / pickup.

    Easy-peasy lemon squeezy.

    PM me or email: Jase007 at aol dot com.

    Cheers!
    Jason

    '90 325iX 5M, '00 528iT 5M Sport (mfg. 5/1999)
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    JScott Racing

  5. #155
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    question, do you guys use the retaining bolts? I can't seem to find anyone that sells the M12x1.5 bolt. Even rods to trim down to size are hard to come by. Do you have to use them or do they make the job THAT much easier?
    '98 M3 5spd - '03 540it 6spd M-Sport

  6. #156
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    my $0.02 after my install:

    You can use dish soap with water instead of the lube. It'll dry a lot faster. But yes, using that tool made it a 4 hour job. And you HAVE to disconnect the Self Leveling Sensors if you have them. When you drop the subframe, the wires aren't long enough and you'll break one of them.

    I didn't use the replacement dow rods because I couldn't find any. I used my floor jack under the diff. Completely remove all 4 of the rods that go through the bushings and replace the rear two bushings first. Only drop the diff enough to get the tool on top of the bushing. Otherwise you'll be putting extra weight on the exhaust hanger and you don't want that to break.

    After the rear two bushings are replaced, put back in the two rear bolts but only 1-2 turns. This way when you drop the diff more to get to the front bushings, you don't put that extra weight on the exhaust.

    Last advice, clean the ever-loving schyt out of the bushing recepticle. I used #0000 steel wool and really get all the crud out. It makes all the difference when putting the bushings back in.
    '98 M3 5spd - '03 540it 6spd M-Sport

  7. #157
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    Reviving...is Jason still doing this rental thing? Time for me to do these bushings. Any other rental options if Jason is out of it? Thanks.
    Jack Money
    Elephant Motorsports Inc




    "The original M3 is utterly brilliant in ways the people at M have either forgotten about or choose to ignore."

  8. #158
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    Still here.
    Jason

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    JScott Racing

  9. #159
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    Time to do my subframe bushings, they are so noisy feels like the rear end is fall off at times. Anyone in the NJ area with experience replacing these?

  10. #160
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    Hi Folks,
    Putting together an order with Pelican for a preventative fuel pump swap and was going to add some likely other maintenance items. My touring is harsh in the back end when going over sharp bumps at highway speeds, it is still quite planted and stable so I think the shocks are basically ok but reading around I think these bushes likely need replacement.
    Pelican have 3 options, Febi @$39.75, Lemforder at $72.25 and Genuine at $114.75. They indicate Lemforder is the OEM. Reading through this thread I get the impression they don't last long, so I wonder does that mean we should buy the best quality possible, or does it mean they don't last long anyhow so why not save some coin if it needs doing every 3-4 years anyhow. I assume the Lemforder is as good as Genuine, but what about Febi? Anyone used them? Good or bad experiences?
    Thanks
    Uber

  11. #161
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    I used Jason subframe kit.
    Worked fantastic. I included a ratchet wrench I had a duplicate of. The touring subframe bushings are good for 60-100K miles.

  12. #162
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    Jason,

    Do you have contact information to rent the tool? I sent PM, wondering if you got that. I am based in Peoria, IL.

    Thanks,

  13. #163
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  14. #164
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    Yes, I second disconnecting the SLS connector if you have one. One thing I noticed was after the install, I am getting a knocking noise at a very low speed around 5 to 10 mph. Only when moving. My install wasn't so pleasant. After unscrewing all the bolts but not removing them completely, without supporting the differential, all 4 bolts were forced out. I'm guessing because of the differential weight. I was able to install everything back, but may have switched the mount bolts and stoppers plate. Do you guys think this might be the culprit of the knocking sound. I never had the knocking sound before the install.

  15. #165
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    What an awsome post wish there was some one in the uk renting the bush tool as mine are in dire need.

  16. #166
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    Many thanks! Glad it helped!


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  17. #167
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    Thank you all for you the helpful DIY and tips. I did this on my 2003 525iT yesterday in 3.75 hours. After searching around to buy the Franklin tool (AFT47) and considering getting in line to rent Jase's, I stumbled across this special made tool from Kommen Tools
    http://www.kommentools.com/collectio...shing-tool-set
    It worked like a champ! I used the Rein bushings available at ECStuning.com. My wagon is much more stable and the harsh shudder that was occurring every time I went over a seam in the pavement is gone!

    I know several of you asked for an alternative to waiting to rent Jase's Franklin tool. I won't need mine for the next 100k so it's available to rent for $100 + $100 deposit. Just message me and we'll work it through Paypal. When I receive the tool back in undamaged condition I'll return your $100 deposit.
    IMG_20160806_064943.jpgIMG_20160806_135025.jpg

  18. #168
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    Hi All,
    Not sure if this thread is very active these days, but I've got an e39 touring with 112k on it and in need of this repair. I just bought the 4 bushings. Anyone in the Bay Area have the tool, or anyone care to rent it to me?

    Thanks!

  19. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilrho View Post
    Hi All,
    Not sure if this thread is very active these days, but I've got an e39 touring with 112k on it and in need of this repair. I just bought the 4 bushings. Anyone in the Bay Area have the tool, or anyone care to rent it to me?

    Thanks!
    Better off in the e39 touring thread. Talk to M5 Jed he rents one and someone else iirc.

    https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...Touring/page15

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  20. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by danger525iT View Post
    Thank you all for you the helpful DIY and tips. I did this on my 2003 525iT yesterday in 3.75 hours. After searching around to buy the Franklin tool (AFT47) and considering getting in line to rent Jase's, I stumbled across this special made tool from Kommen Tools
    http://www.kommentools.com/collectio...shing-tool-set
    It worked like a champ! I used the Rein bushings available at ECStuning.com. My wagon is much more stable and the harsh shudder that was occurring every time I went over a seam in the pavement is gone!

    I know several of you asked for an alternative to waiting to rent Jase's Franklin tool. I won't need mine for the next 100k so it's available to rent for $100 + $100 deposit. Just message me and we'll work it through Paypal. When I receive the tool back in undamaged condition I'll return your $100 deposit.
    IMG_20160806_064943.jpgIMG_20160806_135025.jpg

    +1 to this tool! if you use enough emulsion fluid, the harbor freight jack will also work to install the new bushings in record time
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  21. #171
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    Hi, just did mine yesterday.

    A friend made the tool for me, and done the job in about 4 hours.
    I chose to put poly bushings, let's see how long they last...

    Didn't use the retaining bolts.
    In addition to WD40, you can heat up a little bit just before removing the old bushing, it makes the thing a lot easier. (like 2min at 600c).







    Last edited by ulmi; 08-14-2017 at 03:37 AM.

  22. #172
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    BLACKBMWs - Would you be able to get the pics back up for this job? It will be very much appreciated!

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