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    E30 318 LeMons Build

    We (Duct Tape Motorsports) got a 1991 E30 318i from a fellow BF.Cer (TIATO) that was smashed up in the rear. Got hit real hard while at a stop. The car was totaled, but the insurance company let him keep the car. It has sat for over year and he wants it gone.
    The car was in pretty good condition and still runs. The trunk is pushed so far in that it touches the tire, pressing so hard that it prevents it from rotating.

    We are planning on pulling the trunk out best we can. At the very least we need to make sure it will not rub in anyway while racing.

    Here is the good side:


    The not so good:



    Picked it up and brought it to my garage.
    Here is the before:







    5 Hours Later:







    More pics and info here:
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    Do you guys think it will be possible to pull the trunk out enough so that it will not rub and still be allowed to race?

    Planning on tying the car to a couple of trees and using my father-in-laws backhoe to pull it out. Should make for some interesting pics/video at the very least.






    More pics of damage here:
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    -Scott
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    that car needs some bullet holes! looks like a fun project!

    in the LeMons.... are you able to get credit for parts that you sell... like in the grassroots 200X dollar challange?
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    It will pull out with whatever force you use weather hydraulic rams at the body shop or hydraulic pistons on a backhoe. Just remember that snapping wires and chains flailing around at near supersonic speeds will cut through flesh quite easily. But also remember that you are cold working the material and like the paper clip bent many times will become brittle. As long as it is not structural it will be fine but if anyone hits you there again it will bend in that much easier. Without cutting it out and welding in a replacement piece I would b inclined to weld in a stiffener on the backside of the panels to keep it from happening again with a much softer hit.
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    We were considering cutting the corner out and putting in some bars and aluminum sheet if it doesn't work.

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    I've seen the "chain it to something solid and pull" method work for things like this. Just go slow and get it pulled most of the way so the rear is near square. Then, use a hammer (sledge or something similar), saw, ect to pound out the rest of that sheet metal as best you can. It looks pretty bad but not beyond repair I think, and as I am sure you are aware it will not look pretty when its done but it will look better than it does!

    Good luck buddy!

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    Here are the results of the back-hoe bodywork. It's pretty funny. I actually think it came out good.


    Let me know what you think.

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    Excellent work with the back hoe, I was laughing the whole time, but it turned out pretty well!! Keep it up!
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    HAHA Back hoe body work...that come out great.


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    I'm impressed! I wouldn't have thought you would get it repaired to that extent. That was fantastic, and a great watch as well. The Speed Racer theme was a nice touch, too.

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    Thanks guys. I was really impressed too. My father-in-law was laughing the whole time we were doing it. He thought we were nuts because we wanted to use a back-hoe to fix a car we were planning on racing, but he wasn't about to turn down the opportunity to take a back hoe to a car.

    BTW, I updated our blog site.
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    I added a Live WebCam to our Blog. It is setup in the garage. Not much going on now, but I should be working on it on Sunday. Also kind cool to be able to see how it progresses (or lack thereof).


    Obviosly you won't be able to see anything in
    the dark at night when I'm not working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJerd View Post
    You guys didnt get a 318i....THATS AN IS! Look for a Limited slip brother!
    The 318is didn't come standard with LSD. It was only an option on 318 cars.
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    The e30 in question was fitted with a 4.10lsd by the previous owner before I purchased the car back 2003.

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    I know the is stands for Sport, but what is the differences between a 318 and 318is.

    BTW, I just got a copy of the original ebay add from the guy we got it from. This thing has tons of mods on it that we didn't even realize.

    We also got the insurance claim documentation showing that it was totaled. At the time of the accident the KBB value was just under $4k but had almost $6k worth of damage. So they totaled it. They gave him kbb value minus highest salvage value of $150. We got the car for free, but will probably use $150 as the value of the car just in case. So far we haven't had to spend anything on it other than safety equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sab0276 View Post
    I know the is stands for Sport, but what is the differences between a 318 and 318is.

    BTW, I just got a copy of the original ebay add from the guy we got it from. This thing has tons of mods on it that we didn't even realize.

    We also got the insurance claim documentation showing that it was totaled. At the time of the accident the KBB value was just under $4k but had almost $6k worth of damage. So they totaled it. They gave him kbb value minus highest salvage value of $150. We got the car for free, but will probably use $150 as the value of the car just in case. So far we haven't had to spend anything on it other than safety equipment.

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    The is has the m42 rather than the m10, with 138bhp IIRC compare to 115 or so. The same four was carried on into the e36 318's.

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    Hey Scott, Looks like a fun fix you got there. See you next season hopefully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blurvision View Post
    Hey Scott, Looks like a fun fix you got there. See you next season hopefully
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    Hey Mark,

    It's been a while. What's new with you? How long have you had the M3? Still have the MR2?

    Hopefully I'll see you at the track next year. Here is My Track Schedule for 2009.

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    Scott, Still have the MR2, got an M3 about 6 months ago So far for this season im scheduled with NJBMWCCA at limerock in may. Thanks for posting up your schedule, ill see if i can jump on some events with you
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    I added a couple more posts to the blog to update the progress on the build.
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    You will need to reinforce the bumpers so they dont get peeled off. We used strips of steel and sanwitched the bumpers between the metal then ran bolts through to hold them.

    2 of the e30s lost their rear bumpers at the CMP race last year.

    We were hit 2 times in the back and the bumper was bent but held.

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    Update: We did autox testing with the local BMW club yesterday. It was a lot fun, and the car definately got a lot of attention. Tech people where not very happy, but they reluctantly let us run after we pleaded our case and made some minor fixes.


    Gauge cluster held on with zip ties and an old car wash mitt.



    Battery terminal held securely in place with a vice-grip (no, we where not allowed to run like this. A trip to Autozone was neccessary).



    Since they couldn't put a tech sticker on the upper corner of the windshield they put the tech (wreck) sticker in the upper corner of our helmet visors. Sticker is swiss cheesed like our car.



    We added an ///M badge to let everyone know our car is Fast!



    Ed and I getting ready for the maiden run. Notice the functional orange racing stripe.


    Video proof that the car actually works. We were very pleased with the results considering it was on old All-Season tires.


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    LOL sounds like our team when we showed up at Sebring raceway for a PBOC track day in our Lemons e30. After the brake lights stopped working during the 3rd run we got called in and they went over the car with a fine tooth comb. We had to fix a few things and take the grafiti off the car. We used chalboard paint on the Hood and desklid and wrote some things on it they didnt find funny.

    But they let us go back out. It was a great time passing some one in a Porsche in a $500 car.

    B


    So are you planning on putting a windshield back in the car? from what I saw Plexiglass doesnt hold up.
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