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    Bump for comfort blinkers.

    Does anyone know where I can get hold of one of the Jalt.de modules? The website is offline so I am unable to order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangcla View Post
    Bump for comfort blinkers.

    Does anyone know where I can get hold of one of the Jalt.de modules? The website is offline so I am unable to order.
    Just get a retro fit kit from audi/vw. They are still available. A special relay and a few wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by affa View Post
    Just get a retro fit kit from audi/vw. They are still available. A special relay and a few wires.
    For any particular car/s? I see that the diagrams on e31wiki show several different variants depending on car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangcla View Post
    For any particular car/s? I see that the diagrams on e31wiki show several different variants depending on car.
    It was made for the golf and early a4. The difference between them are just the cord length and plugs, which you won't be using.

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    ...intreagued....any of you two have done that using the audi/vw kits?
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    I've done it on my older merc and have another kit sitting in a box for my e31. It's just a relay that essentially holds the indicator stalk down and counts 3 flashes.

    Pretty simple stuff.

    If someone doesn't beat me to it I'll do a write up when I get around to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by affa View Post
    I've done it on my older merc and have another kit sitting in a box for my e31. It's just a relay that essentially holds the indicator stalk down and counts 3 flashes.

    Pretty simple stuff.

    If someone doesn't beat me to it I'll do a write up when I get around to it.
    I'll wait for that wondering how it would hook up in the e31. I'm a little confused as I see the vw/audi guys are using the hazard switch for taping into the wires. I don't see how that connects to the signal stalk.
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    Is there a P/N for the VW kit? Or Particular model should be asked for at the dealership?

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    Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...668651&alt=web


    I think z3 and e31 share same relay... Did anyone tried it!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw528e11 View Post
    I think z3 and e31 share same relay... Did anyone tried it!?
    Which relay does this module replace?

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    It doesn't replace any relay, it's an add on. You remove the existing blinker relay and move it to the empty socket on the top left of the eBay picture, the bottom plug in the picture goes where your blinker relay was.

    If I didn't want to have a stock look and happy to just clip the relocated relays somewhere this would be the easy solution.

    This is the same thing as the audi vw kit. Just comes with the handy relay plug for easy diy install.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaifanSC View Post
    I'll wait for that wondering how it would hook up in the e31. I'm a little confused as I see the vw/audi guys are using the hazard switch for taping into the wires. I don't see how that connects to the signal stalk.
    Yeah my plan is different to the normal install. I plan to make the first detent on the blinker stalk work as the "comfort" mode (3 flashes). Also I want to install the additional relay in an unused relay spot in the relay box.
    Last edited by affa; 12-17-2015 at 10:06 AM. Reason: stupid smartphone autocorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by affa View Post
    It doesn't replace any relay, it's an add on. You remove the existing blinker relay and move it to the empty socket on the top left of the eBay picture, the bottom plug in the picture goes where your blinker relay was.

    If I didn't want to have a stock look and happy to just clip the relocated relays somewhere this would be the easy solution.

    This is the same thing as the audi vw kit. Just comes with the handy relay plug for easy diy install.

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    Yeah my plan is different to the normal install. I plan to make the first detent on the blinker stalk work as the "comfort" mode (3 flashes). Also I want to install the additional relay in an unused relay spot in the relay box.
    I'll look forward to that write up The relay above is probably an easy quick option...but not sure it is a very appealing permanent option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw528e11 View Post
    Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...668651&alt=web
    Has anyone used this module?

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    Quote Originally Posted by affa View Post
    I've done it on my older merc and have another kit sitting in a box for my e31. It's just a relay that essentially holds the indicator stalk down and counts 3 flashes.

    Pretty simple stuff.

    If someone doesn't beat me to it I'll do a write up when I get around to it.
    Arthur, will you do this write up soon?

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    i just installed a Kahtec one press lane changer device (like Radlaw has too) and it was super easy.
    you grab the blue wire with stripe on each tail lamp harness connector to connect to the kahtec two blue wires and then run the red wire to left battery + terminal.
    it blinks 6 more times after the one time you pressed it.
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    any updated links?

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    I've got one created a few months ago (from an electronics friend), similar to what Revtor has, I just haven't gotten around to even looking at the thing. I should read how it needs to get installed soon
    I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
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    Last year I pulled my Jalt.de module (bought around the start of this topic) out of the 328i to fit it to the M3 (same stalk electronics as E31).

    The old 328i install was the old style way, but without cutting any original wires (this is always a no-go) where I would chase a wire to a connector or junction and pull it there, insert a new wire and then install it. This mimics cutting a wire to install something in between, without actually cutting the wire. That was good back then.

    This time I went for the optimal solution: plug and play. What I hadn't realized back then, was that the stalk wiring loom, hold all the necessary wires, including the power and ground wires. It says so right in the ETM, so why I didn't realize this back then, I don't know. So I bought a second hand stalk for the connector and all the correct wire colors and pulled the contra connector from a nother spare wiring loom I had laying around.

    Which then results in what you see below. Then it's just a matter of disconnecting the stalk from the car's main loom, insert one end of the solution in the car's side loom, and plug the stalk back into the other side. I didn't wrap the loom because this part of the loom isn't wrapped from factory neither. Wanted to keep that look, even if it's behind paneling. OCD. (this also gave more playing room for find a location for the module).

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    Here's my latest iteration of the OTTS module:


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    Same features as before but no more cutting, splicing or soldering of the car's wiring harness: The new module is a drop-in replacement of the E31/E32/E34/E36 flasher relay! The module takes over all features of the original flasher relay (lamp failure detection, trailer detection,...).

    In order to build one you have to sacrifice an original flasher relay for the enclosure, connector and relays.

    The new OTTS module is already in use in a few vehicles without issues but the PCB needs a redesign. The voltage regulator I used is for automotive applications but I'd like to add some extra input protection. A bigger problem I did not notice during development is that there are two different manufacturers of the BMW flasher relay (Siemens and JWT) and both use a different enclosure, connector and relays. I based my new OTTS module on the Siemens version which means you can't use parts of the JWT version. I've been meaning to spin a second PCB based on the JWT module but due to lack of time the project has been on hold for years...

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    That's just perfect. Just replace the flasher relay.
    So this isn't a finished part we can buy from you?

    Does this still feature the dipswitch settings?
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    I do not intend to sell the module. As usual I publish all information so people can build one for themselves. Note that the new OTTS module uses quite small SMT components so you'll need decent soldering equipment and skills.

    There are no DIP switches. There are too many settings and too little space. Besides, after some initial tinkering you'll never change the settings again. So to make changes you must reprogram the microcontroller. There's a programming header on the PCB for in-circuit programming. That way you can program the module while installed in the car for quick feedback.

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    Too bad. Microscopic soldering is something I stay far away from.
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    Revtor, as usual, great work!!
    I swear, my cars are like a girlfriend.
    Sometimes its a rough ride, sometimes its smooth motorin'.
    Sometimes she doesnt like how i treat her and sometimes i dont like how she behaves.
    BUT at the end of the day, she loves it when I am inside her.

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