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    Thumbs up e36 n/a 1/4 mile archives w/ standings

    i think its only appropriate that we have a single thread to reference enlighten those of the potential of the e36 in n/a form. i encourage chastising in this thread because in moderation it tends to get results so if you know someone with potential call them out.

    i will include the best time from each member provided time slips are included. i may even have an unofficial list for those that have lost theirs, id like to still acknowledge their efforts.
    as some incentive i will include a top 10 list and maybe as the stigma is slowly lifted and bmw's start to become synonymous with 1/4 mile...(i can has dream)...ill lengthen the list to top 25.

    i have lots to add to this in the coming days and i will continue to update the first post with the standings. so i ask in the mean time to link me to a thread and or send me time slips. it may be a couple days before i get back to this but i will not sell out the n/a crowd. im in this for the long haul there to much left on my plate to leave now
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    12.236 @ 112.38 bf.c'r fishforlife m3
    mods: ltw, 3" cat back exhaust, obd-i intake manifold, 3.5" diy intake, 225/50/15's hoosier dr's
    12.623 @ 110.26 bf.c'r raymound97 m3
    12.754 @ 105.02 bf.c'r MR.E36i m3 vert
    mods: obdi S52/AA sunbelt Tune Chip/sunblet 280/272 cams/daul springs and titanum retainers/euro headers with full aa race exhaust and track pipe/UUC 8.5 flywheel with M5 cluch/Extream port and polish Head/24lb Injectors/3.73 LSD Diff,Euro 3.5" MAF & K&N filter/Fan Delete Mode Kit/cf hood/car w/ driver 2650lbs/WELD Racing light Wheels 225/50/15 and front slim runner 135/75/15
    12.971 @ 105.98 bf.c'r morerevsm3 m3 euro 3.0
    reserved for jworms/95s52/knudsonm3/99mpower
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    13.077 @ 105.03 bf.c'r GazM3 m3 euro 3.2
    mods:exhaust/light flywheel/reflashed DME/heat shielded pod filter/ and R comp circut racing tyres/car is full weight except for spare tyre & jack removed, estimate with driver 1550kg (3417lb)
    13.221 @ 105.377 bf.c'r 95s52 m3
    mods: OBDI s52/3.5" euro intake box/3.5" 540 hfm/24lb injectors/SS replica headers/SS exhaust/car weighed 2880 at track
    13.29 @ 102.45 bf.c'r m3chaser mcoupe
    mods: 3.73 gears,M50 manifold and cat back exhaust.
    13.343 @ 104.11 bf.c'r jworms m3
    mods: 2860lbs w/o driver, Conforti CAI, 3.5" MAF (unplugged), UUC Short Shifter, M50 Intake Manifold, UUC LTW Flywheel, AA Software, AA Track Pipe, Stromung catback exhaust
    13.450 @ 102.58 bf.c'r FastAlpine m3
    mods: fan delete, UUC Underdrive pullies, Cosmos Racing 3” CAI, AA 3” track pipe, Edge Racing cat-back exhaust, 3.46 rear with 40% lockup, Jim Conforti “Shark” injector spare tire delete(50lbs)
    13.47 @ 103.7x bf.c'r S52Mcoupe m3
    mods: Full TRM custom obd1 tune. 250whp/239wt., shrick cams, UUC underdrive pullies, UUC 8.5 flywheel, Dinan Intake/B&B exhaust, 18's wheels = 3.15 rear end.
    Full weight plus a 4pt roll bar. 60ft was 1.9x on 235/40/18 street tires
    13.527 @ 102.88 bf.c'r KnudsonM3 m3
    mods: Custom shorty headers, Full 3.5 Intake with Bimmerworld 3.5 intake boot, Schrick Camshafts, 24 lb fuel injectors, M50 manifold, B&B exhaust, off the shelf tuning, Fan delete and I ran on General exclaim UHPs that were worn to their wear bars.
    13.551 @ 99.95 bf.c'r rpm620 m3
    mods: Jim Conforti Chip, Intake / K&N Filter, UUC Underdrive pullys, UUC System U catback, UUC Stage2 flywheel / clutch, AA Track Pipe
    13.61 @ 100.xx bf.c'r m3chaser m3
    mods: 3.5in cosmos intake, 3.5in MAF, 24lb inj, TMS Chip, UUC TSE Exhaust, 3.91lsd. I ran that time on 235/40/18 General UHP Exclaims
    13.654 @ 102.82 bf.c'r M3 ANT m3
    mod list: OBDI S52, intake, OBDII mid pipe gutted cats, borla cat back, 540i HFM, 24LBS injectors, old S50 tune, 235/40/17 azenis rt-615, full interior, no spare.
    13.700 @ 101.84 bf.c'r Dispatch20 m3
    mods: S52 w/M50 intake, CAI intake, dinan SW, Stromung exhaust, JBR LTW flywheel, weight reduced by: 2 Recaro SRD's, stromung, no spare tire, 1/8th tank of gas.
    13.701 @ 103 bf.c'r m3luckyoo m3
    mods: 2700 lbs w/ 1/4 tank of gas, TMS Soft., 24lb. inj., 3.5 HFM/ECIS intake , Ebay Headers, AA Trackpipe/Gen 3 exhst, ltw flywheel, 3.23 Diff.*Dyno Dynamics RWHP: 221.7 TQ: 209.8 (50% leak on cylinder 6)
    13.768 @ 103.52 bf.c'r swollix m3
    mods: car weight ~2900lbs w/ driver, OBD1 S52, TRM chip, conforti cold air intake, 2.5" custom exhaust
    13.777 @ 100.340 bf.c'r Braymond141 m3
    mods: Weight: 2970 + 175lb driver (only thing removed was spare, rest is completely stock) M50 manifold - ITG Intake - Cat delete - TSE exhaust - 8.5lb UUC Flywheel - NO tuning AFR's 11:1 @5k - 54lb per side CSL wheels/GSd3 tire (yikes!) - Koni suspension
    13.782 @ 100.80 bf.c'r 99mpower m3
    mods: 3335lbs w/ driver, 243rwhp, Evosport shorty ceramic headers, borla track pipe, UUC System U, fan delete mod, UUC pulleys on water pump and power steering, m50 mani, dinan bbtb, dinan maf, dinan CAI, Samco TB boot, ASC delete, Dinan Stg4 software.
    13.8741 @ 98.41 bf.c'r brianstamour m3
    mods: software, uuc lightweight flywheel, uuc underdrive pullies, ecis 3" CAI, West coast riots BBTB, fan/acs delete, supersprint headers/resonator, 255/35 yokohama s.drive on the rear. full interior, no spare in trunk
    13.9 @ 99.95 bf.c'r zparker 2.8l
    car made 210whp
    13.94 @ 99.27 bf.c'r NYY42 328
    mods: OBD1 M52B28 (m50 manifold) , CAI, Borla Catback, JB 10# Flywheel, AA tune, 3.38lsd
    reserved for tony soprano ^_^
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    14.053 @ 99.13 bf.c'r NotherM3 m3
    Mods: stock weight, 3" AA Intake, AA Track pipe, AA Gen 3 Exhaust, Crack Pulley, AA Flywheel, AA Clutch
    14.132 @ 97.44 bf.c'r ptldM3 m3
    mods: turner chip, cosmos intake,ss rep headers, tse exhaust, no spare and exhaust leak
    14.267 @ 97.7 bf.c'r JPs325i m3
    mods: BF Goodrich G-Force Sports/25psi.
    14.430 @ 99. 05 bf.c'r racer m m3
    mods: cai, rsc36, m50,ltw 18 oz's, I had 4 gallons of gas in her and tire pressure 31psi
    14.441@98.789 bf.c'r Tony Soprano m3 auto
    mods: debaffled air box/custom magnaflow exhaust
    14.441 @ 96.03 bf.c'r BabyM 328
    mods: weight reduction: passenger, rear seat and spare wheel removed w/ 3.23 diff
    14.617 @ 97.02 bf.c'r Montague 325
    mods: mark d chip/ansa exhaust/k&n intake/uuc pulley's/fan delete mod/-50lbs(spare tire), 16" kosei k1
    14.642 @ 93.35 bf.c'r KFeez 328
    mods: k&n intake w/ heatshield

    unofficial:
    13.28 @ 104 bf.c'r Bsaint
    13.3 @ 107 bf.c'r LY95 link to post
    mods: JC intake, chip, 24# injectors, 3.5HFM, AA track pipe, AA genIII exhaust, HIOP headers, Dinan bored TB.
    dynoed: 247rwhp, 239rwtq

    i made this post in another thread and think it needs more press

    advice on launching:
    i recommend you read this how ever many times it takes to make sense.

    1) make sure if you go through the water that it all comes off your tires before you leave the line. also people that go before you could potential create a problem with residual water down in your lane, try and be aware
    2) tire pressure and tires themselves are very important and can make the task of launching the car closer to second nature. i have a feel for about how much acceleration my tires can take just before they break lose(my anxiety often clouds my judgment though).
    3) just stay with the clutch a little while after leaving the line and make a smooth transition into all throttle...that transition into full throttle needs to be made longer as the rpms in which you launch at and power to weight ratio decreases. for example....this is important to understand....if i launch my car at 2000rpms i can get off the clutch and go wide open throttle very soon after my cars gains momentum...on the other and if i launch my car at like 5000rpms ill have to stay with the clutch much longer to ensure when i lift off the clutch my tires dont break lose. in the latter scenario image if i let off the clutch at like 5mph...essentially it would have a similar effect to that of a clutch kick to induce lose of traction.
    here is an example where i had a feel for threshold of the tires. in this video i launched way to high so i had to stay with clutch longer in order to prevent tire spin. that day i shot that video temperatures were in the 3x's and with those same tires because people think tire spin is indicative of power i could spin 2 completes gears so that when i shifted into 3rd i was actually traveling 60mph.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZB6JCvroyw[/ame]
    4) here is another common mistake people make.
    people will often shift as soon at they break lose. if your car dosent have much momentum and has enough power it will just spin you in second gear as well. most of the time if you had the proper momentum that the first gear would give you(i.e. bottom of 2nd after a redlined 1st is ~30mph for me) the car would never break lose at those speeds.
    here is a video of me with a terrible launch...i launched high and got off the clutch before i had enough momentum thus inducing wheel spin(as i described above) and only smart thing i did was ride out 1st gear...had i shifted right away i would have easily spun 2nd gear.
    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v6..._15_34_05. flv
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    Quote Originally Posted by morerevsm3 View Post
    euros accepted??
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    got pics of your car? and what exactly did you remove??

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    mods are as follows. S50b32
    exhaust/light flywheel/reflashed DME/heat shielded pod filter/ and R comp circut racing tyres
    car is full weight except for spare tyre & jack removed, estimate with driver 1550kg (3417lb)
    MPH is 105.03

    summer coming soon so hopefully hunt down some 12sec passes.

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    i've a friend that just did a 12.6 110mph last weekend, e36 N.A, i'll try to get him to post his vid and timeslip

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    My 95 M3 is no longer with us ( RIP ) but I ran a 13.61@100.mph with a 1.901 60ft with the following mods:

    3.5in cosmos intake, 3.5in MAF, 24lb inj, TMS Chip, UUC TSE Exhaust, 3.91lsd. I ran that time on 235/40/18 General UHP Exclaims about 2 years ago. I don't have the slip anymore, but if you want the exact times there they are.

    Oh and 1/8th mile time was an 8.701@81mph( not exactly sure on that mph for the 1/8th).

    Also, would you consider M Coupes/roadsters with the S52 as well for this list?
    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    yup ill add that car and ill make a little note on the chassis..any more place values on the 100mph trap....the more data the merrier
    Well I can't speak for the M3 because I don't have the slip anymore, but as for the M Coupe my best trap was a 102.5mph but at a 13.71.

    My best ET in the M Coupe so far is a 13.60@100.53mph. All of that info is in my sig taken right from the time slip which I threw away, but I do have a vid of me running that time. It is hard to see the time in the vid because the time came up on the wrong board but it is indeed the run in my sig.

    I also have a vid of a run where I ran a 13.61@101mph on the same day but I will have to upload that to my photobucket account when I get home.

    When I ran the current time in my sig I was on street tires with the just an intake and M50 manifold. At the time the car put down 212rwhp/211rwtq on a dynojet. Only difference now is a catback, but I will be going back with some DR's and a reinforced rearend...........

    Here is the vid of the 13.60 run:



    EDIT:

    The car weighed in at the track at 3130lbs with a 1/2 tank of gas and driver.
    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

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    I don't see model specified in those rankings (maybe i am missing it..it's late :P)

    Are they all s50/s52 or general e36 as the title says?

    Are we interested in all e36's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    you have a diff on the mcoupe
    Nope. Diff is 3.23lsd right now. I am currently in the market for one but nothing as of yet.

    The times that I have in my sig and that vid I posted are with only intake and m50 manifold. Nothing else.

    I think when I get a 3.73lsd and DR's I will run loow 13's. We will see.
    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

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    alrighty I'll go ahead and submit an old one then if that's cool.

    99 328is (m52) weight reduction: passenger, rear seat and spare wheel removed. I don't know what the weight was after all that.

    3.23 differential

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    12.6 110mph n/a

    Quote Originally Posted by bimmertc20 View Post
    i've a friend that just did a 12.6 110mph last weekend, e36 N.A, i'll try to get him to post his vid and timeslip
    the car is a 97 e36 m3, street legal driven daily full stereo, a/c car weight over 3100lbs as weighted at track, owners name is Delroy Barclay (raymond 97 ) a new member, video posting soon, he's left lane, Z06 in the right lane, after that run the track officals personally checked his car for power adder (they were dissapointed)
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    thats my boy delroy! finally post the time sheet i gave him the 12.6 vid 2 day so he'll b postn very soon. 2 c the slip properly u have use the zoom & its clear as day

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    could you have him post his mods and transcribe the slip, i cant make out much of it.
    if u click on the time slip twice it will zoom in, he's editing the video file, will post soon (file is too big), i'll let him discuss his mods (even thou i did the work), if the weather is good we'll b back to e-town this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    his car went 12.623 @ 110.26 w/ 1.861" short time
    1/8 mile e.t. was 8.139 @ 85.92
    after seeing a couple mentions that the vehicle that accomplished this weighed ~3100 ill need to see a mod list before im willing to add it. congrats on the time and trap speed no matter how it was accomplished. its just that the power required to accomplish such a pass knowing the approximate weight is hard for me to believe
    hard to believe but true, we went thru alot of broken parts to get to this point, (clutch, driveshaft, diff flange) alot of trial n error, dyno tuning, suspension tuning, if u look at is trap speed it's not all about power, we're lacking up top (working on that), out of respect to the owner he'll have to come on and list his mods (all bolt-on), the owner is new to the forum, we'll b at e-town this week if anyone wants to come look, we're gunning for a 12.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    thanks for remaining cordial provided what i said. i hope you get the target e.t your after. one vague question im sure your friend wont have a problem that you answer. has he changed his differential. im not asking what gears, just a yes or no and ill be content till he post his mods. thanks
    yes gearing was changed, we tried several different gears and was really suprised with results, the car right now is really tuned for torque (we also played with cam timing) alot of time testing and tuning went into this car,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bimmertc20 View Post
    yes gearing was changed, we tried several different gears and was really suprised with results, the car right now is really tuned for torque (we also played with cam timing) alot of time testing and tuning went into this car,

    Do you mind sharing what your results were from the different gear changes? I am very curious as I have a 3.91lsd in my car and wonder how much it helps it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E36 328is View Post
    Do you mind sharing what your results were from the different gear changes? I am very curious as I have a 3.91lsd in my car and wonder how much it helps it out.
    we ran 3:64 and got 12.8 in the 1/4 and i think it was 107mph using 4th gear (it blew up), we then went with the 3:23 we netted a 12.6 @ 110mph 3rd gear, it's not just a gear thing, the new gear allowed us to more use the torque of the motor and the shift point was moved to 7800rpm, i list the mods done to the car in the drag standings thread, these times were achieved by building the car where each mod complimented each other.

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    BIG THANKS to Bimmertc20 for all the help and also for posting the timeslip. A full list of Vendors, their products and technical support provided will be posted soon. Car specs coming soon. Videos are posted on youtube the car is a Blue 4dr M3.

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    I took my E30 to the strip a couple years ago with a group of UNCC car guys.

    Considering the driveline I'm running, I had no interest in "Launching" the car; just rolled off idle-1000rpm and laid the hammer w/shifts at 7200.

    8.5xx at 84.xx MPH
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    I drove around the water-box/burnout area....ran the tires at ambient temp.

    I've never run it at a 1/4 strip; no idea what time it would do there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E30 Stu View Post
    I took my E30 to the strip a couple years ago with a group of UNCC car guys.

    Considering the driveline I'm running, I had no interest in "Launching" the car; just rolled off idle-1000rpm and laid the hammer w/shifts at 7200.

    8.5xx at 84.xx MPH
    Car:
    '91 318is
    2620 #
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    195/65/14 all-season
    Gearing: Getrag 260 with 3.73 LS rear

    I've never run it at a 1/4 strip; no idea what time it would do there.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF-uiK8n7PQ[/ame] thank u people believe the crazy burnout, yanking gears is gonna make your car fast, there's more to drag racing than that, ck out this vid of a 12.6 pass n/a, excuse my camera man, next time it will be better

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    What all has been done to it!? What did it dyno?
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    here's a pic of the car as raced, drive to the track, drop tire pressure, race .drive home
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