LLAE Special Intro Pricing!!!!!

[JPK]

KO listens to its customers!

From your feedback on the LLAEs we are giving you what you want...LLAEs at intro pricing you demanded!

On the verge of shipping, LLAEs are being offered at $245.99 plus shipping! Special intro pricing is good for the first 100 customers or till June 30th (if 100 customers purchase before June 30th, the price is good till June 30th).

After June 30th the price will return to list, so don't wait to long!

Haven't seen this amazing kit yet? Check out the links at KO Performance! (www.koperformance.com/bmw.html)

Questions?

Questions can be directed to anyone on our team...

2 on the West Coast:
Nick Tramontin (nmt@koperformance.com) and
Dan Byun (db@koperformance.com)

or me on the East Coast
John Paul Komasinski (jpk@koperformance.com)

[sardil]

Sweetness! I knew this would happen with enough prodding ;)

[XaznPKdogX]

Not to be offensive, but...

What happens after the "24/7 continual on time estimated at 3 years (15,000 - 25,000 hours)"? Do they die out or something?

Don't DDE's work forever? If the lights go out, don't you just have to replace the LED?

3 year manufacturers warranty on all parts means after they run out of "lava" (I'm no science wizz), no more warranty?

Last, who manufactures LLAE? If its KO, sorry. :D I didn't thoroughly read the other threads on these.

[Balthazarr]

Originally posted by XaznPKdogX
Not to be offensive, but...



Don't DDE's work forever? If the lights go out, don't you just have to replace the LED?
Nothing works forever.



3 year manufacturers warranty on all parts means after they run out of "lava" (I'm no science wizz), no more warranty?

So you want a lifetime warranty? :laugh


Last, who manufactures LLAE? If its KO, sorry. :D I didn't thoroughly read the other threads on these.

As far as I know, lavalighting manufactures LLAE's.

[JT///M3]

you expect KO to give you a lifetime warranty? haha! as good as BMW cars are, they don't even come close to a lifetime warranty. what makes you expect to get more for an aftermarket lighting product? If you drive your car 24/7 then you should be more worried about other things breaking down besides LLAEs.

[m3power]

let me help out answering some questions as well.

correct. lavalighting manufactures LLAE's.

LLAE's 3 year warranty applies to "whatever" happens to your rings within the warranty period.

you accidently break it during installation => covered (which is not easy to do if you use the custom designed brackets that come with the kit)

your ring breaks or doesn't light up in ANY situation before/during/after installation => covered even if it is your fault.

the only catch is customer has to send the broken ring back to lavalighting at his/her expense. return shipping and ring(s) are covered!

[XaznPKdogX]

So still, what happens when the 3 years of lava run out?

[Beemin 323]

its just like anyother warranty you may deal with. after 3 years your on your own. just like when your car warranty expires, after that your held responsible, not the dealer....

[hal9000]

Originally posted by m3power
the only catch is customer has to send the broken ring back to lavalighting at his/her expense. return shipping and ring(s) are covered!

Sounds reasonable, but I do have a safety question. I know that CCFL like normal FL users mercury vapor as it's active agent - reasons why I cringe when is see people breaking FL tubes at "backyard wrestling." I also know from way back in my chemistry days what's involved in cleaning mercury spills in a lab situation (think freshmen w/ thermometers = lots of accidents).

How are you recommending neutralizing the mercury that's deposited whenever a CCFL is broken as well as what's the safest way to return a broken tube - after all mercury vapor isn't exactally healthy?

[mkgino]

Damn, this looks like a very good deal, I would get in on this.

[stupenal]

Just would like to say that its nice to see competitors in this whole "angel eye/dde/whatever you want to call them rings" market. I personally wouldn't spend that much money on them rings and all, but much love and power to those who have the dough cuz that stuff looks HOT.

[97 MPWR]

What happens when the temperature drops below 25 with these things?

[97e36]

Originally posted by 97 MPWR
What happens when the temperature drops below 25 with these things?

At 25 degrees, the LLAE halos will start up just fine. Full brightness and color is achieved almost instantly.

It's when temperatures dip below 15 degrees F (water freezes at 32 degrees F) when you start to notice an increased time period for the LLAE halos to warm up. HID bulb start-up can be affected in a similar way and applies similar concepts in some areas. When it's 20 below freezing, the CCFL tubes will start out a light-purplish color, and then warm up to it's full brightness and white color. The colder the temperature, the longer the warm-up period.

A more fancy, smart inverter box will be offered as a completely Plug-&-Play add-on to those who live in environments that often see 30 below freezing. The smart inverter box will measure the outside temperature and adjust the CCFL strike voltage accordingly.

In extremely cold weather, a smart inverter should be able to allow the LLAE achieve its full brightness in about 10 seconds... similar to most HID lighting systems.

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Here are some freezer tests done a couple of days ago with the standard LLAE Inverter:

Step 1: Placed LLAE into freezer along with a Digital Thermometer at it's coldest setting for 15 minutes. Digital Thermometer reads at MINUS 5.0 degrees F. Picture taken within 3 seconds of start-up. Halo emits a dim-purple color, but is still bright enough to be seen with camera flash on.
http://www.lavalighting.com/LLAEfreezerTest/startupATminus5s.jpg

Step 2: Second picture taken at 25 seconds after LLAE start-up. Notice how the halos are nearly up to full brightness and normal color. There is still a hint of purple on the halo to the right. Temperature reads 4.9 degrees F. Picture taken with camera flash on.
http://www.lavalighting.com/LLAEfreezerTest/25secAT4point9s.jpg

Step 3: Third picture taken at 35 seconds after LLAE start-up. Halo at full brightness. Temperature reads 6.7 degrees F. Picture taken with camera flash on.
http://www.lavalighting.com/LLAEfreezerTest/35secAT6point7s.jpg

[328bimma]

NICE JERRY!! you have come up with a great product!

[joe325i]

well jerry...
i hope those pics get people off your back about how the kits dont light properly in the cold areas...
great luck!
i think you got an awsome kit comming out!

[97 MPWR]

Originally posted by joe325i
well jerry...
i hope those pics get people off your back about how the kits dont light properly in the cold areas...
great luck!
i think you got an awsome kit comming out!


joe325i- asking a simple question is jumping on someone's back??:dunno

thanks for the pics jerry.

[joe325i]

search the forums...
you'll find plenty.. for people being skeptical and ripping them apart from the beggining to competitors upping the anty because they feel threatend...
if they came up with this ide a2 years ago why did they just start fo finalize it when jerry came out with one..
i think people are trying to sound like they did it first..but thats what i think.:stickoutt

Edit by Administrator: Balance of the previous posts moved to a new thread. Please help keep JPK's thread on topic, thanks.

[joe325i]

well admin.. i dont think thats fair to do w/o saying anything to me about it.. seeing as to how we worked it out:D
but its cool

[RPM3]

WoW that is great documentation and pictures.

[coleco]

so these are similar to neon tubes or liteglow speaker rings?
What material are the rings made of?
Are they made in the USA?
Are they waterproof are the transformers waterproof?
What is the shipping price (or is it a secret?)
Will these fit in the ellipsoid headlight housings without seperating the glued parts?
What voltage does the transformer send through the rings>?
I am a little worried about the brightness ... i.e. streetglows white underbody kits are dimmer than other FL colors. got any daytime pics of them on a car? any pics closeup on a car?
Pics of the transformer locations>?


I am very interested. I just have those few questions.

[NMT]

coleco,

Not too sure about the details of liteglow.
LLAE Halos are custom molded glass tubing use Cold Cathode Flourescent Lighting
Aluminum brackets are extruded and CNC machined in the USA
Injection molded clips, adaptor rings, and spring clips are 100% made in the USA
Other components are sourced from various parts of the world.
The Inverter box is encased in an aluminum housing which provides a watertight seal.
Shipping costs depends on destination and shipping service selected by the customer.
LLAE will fit into ellipsoid headlights without any glue.
The inverter can send a strike voltage of up to 2000 volts to start up the halos.
Generally, white is the brightest of all for CCFL type applications. We can do other colors, but you will likely get into legal trouble.
Detailed pics are coming soon.
These aren't the best daytime pics, but here are some new pics on an AA project car:
LLAE turned off
http://www.lavalighting.com/LLAEoff.jpg
LLAE turned on
http://www.lavalighting.com/LLAEon.jpg

[coleco]

hell yes those look sweet.
even though i will probably break em... ill have to get a set here soon. if i have 3 years whats the worry lol.

[binh]

those last pictures look great in my opinion...they are very unique...good product jerry..

I'd buy them definately but i'm out of my "looks" phase...i think:)

[m3power]

Originally posted by coleco
hell yes those look sweet.
even though i will probably break em... ill have to get a set here soon. if i have 3 years whats the worry lol.

more good news!

LLAE will come with life time warranty! :clap:

also, LLAE's custom designed brackets minimize the chance of breakage during installation.

[RPM3]

Ya these babies are hot. I was assisting in one of the first prototype installations and it wasn't that difficult. Since then the install method and procedures has been cut down a lot to make installation a breeze.