Moneyshift Carnage!

[swollix]

Not for the faint of heart... This is what happens when you shift from 3rd gear to 2nd at 95 mph:
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[Simann]

Thats not a cheap mistake.:eek:

[MARKSS]

Jesus Christ!!!!

[Theodore]

Ouch. You MURDERED that piston! :D

[99MPower]

holy flying upside down cow.... thats CRAZY!!!!

[FreewheelBurner]

I can't even fathom the sound that must've made. Putting a grenade in the engine would've done the same damage.

[manya2]

Year of car? miles ?

[swollix]

Year of car? miles ?

1995 just rolled over 100k. Purchased with 88k last July.

[gelb3]

wow...that's gross

[HaraM3]

OMFG...I'm gonna be sick.

[manya2]

What at are your going to do w/the car ? fix or sell it ? I have a friend looking for a body for a track car.

[Mitch]

Looks like you tried to divide by zero there. Best of luck.

[qidm67]

1995 just rolled over 100k. Purchased with 88k last July.

!WTF! That's so sad to hear. I thought it was a high mileage car but wow.
Hope you are on the road soon with that car.

[V8EATR]

Well, now i know not to shift from 3rd to 2nd at 95MPH!!!!
Thanks!!:buttrock

[sirius600]

Dude you moneyshifted the shit out of that. Nice kill?

[Theodore]

Looks like you tried to divide by zero there.

:rofl :rofl :rofl

[jskicet]

I'll take your cams..........

[mitchelrl]

OUCH.

Time for a 3.2 OBD1, it will cost less to repair this.

[TheM3nsah]

Thats not a cheap mistake.:eek:

+1
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[L3R E36]

ouch, i feel for you man

[rbartongrimley]

HOLY COW! that is by far the worst I have seen so far!

[99GREENM3]

That Hurts to look at GL with the rebuild.

[patmcd]

Terrible, but impressive all at the same time.

[94calypsored]

good excuse to get a new engine

[racer m]

that is really bad

[Crazy 13immer]

Ouch dood. When I money shifted, it wasn't that bad. Whats next? I think you should rebuild it yourself, I wish I would have when I blew my motor.

Whatever you do, good luck

[MIMI1]

Euro Swap

and

:rofl at that one PwnD piston

[shellback]

Can anyone explain in layman’s terms what is transpiring and what chain of events are occurring inside the engine? From the moment the clutch is dropped and the voice in your head is saying “this is going to hurt…”

[Theodore]

I would think the crazy over-rev causes the valve train to fail which then drops valves onto the pistons which are moving REALLY fast. Then you get some plinko action and it chews up the pistons/combustion chamber. Once the hole is made there, oil from the crank case comes flying up and into the intake tract because there are no valves there anymore.

That would be my guess.

[ozbmw]

Can anyone explain in layman’s terms what is transpiring and what chain of events are occurring inside the engine? From the moment the clutch is dropped and the voice in your head is saying “this is going to hurt…”

These engines are an 'interference' type of design where the piston comes up high enough to strike the valve if extended.

The valve springs are incapable of pulling the valve up and out of the way of the fast rising pistons at such high revolutions.

You get what is known as valve 'float' whereby the cams are pushing the valves down but the springs are not able to keep up the rate.

The solid lifters used in the Euro engines allow higher engine speeds without the 'float situation'

This is why US spec engines have a lower rev limit and why their limit should not be raised above 7000 rpm.

(PS: it is also why our euros sound so nice above 7000 rpm.)

[Hugo]

Got you beat : I punched a fist sized hole through the iron block. :D

[fsmtnbiker]

Looks like you tried to divide by zero there. Best of luck.

:lol

I literally LOL'd at that one.



OP: Ouch!

[M3ROKT]

A lot of unexplicable empathy in threads like these for those who obviously crawled out of the lower end of the gene pool.

[andylv]

Yea, that looks painfully familiar. I put in a used 3.2 after my money shift. I has so much carnage I even had to replace the intake manifold because of all the aluminum chips that got into the intake from the combustion chamber carnage.

Make sure to check your front subframe engine mount holes for cracks. On my car the drivers side engine mount had pulled through the holes in the subframe.

If you go with a used engine make sure to get the VIN number the engine came from and do a CARFAX check for history on the car the engine came out of.

Good luck,

[joe91985]

WOW! can't wait to make that mistake.....
poor car

[M5Yates]

I'm so sorry this happened to you. It is my worst nightmare when I track my car, and I'd like to do every thing possible to prevent it.

Do you have upgraded tranny mounts?

[EnderG60]

I like all the people who think its rebuildable!

[gregmm6]

Wow, that's almost hard to look at.

[bmwpowere36m3]

That looks pretty bad, I would definitely check:

1. All cylinder bores for any nicks or gouges.
2. All pistons & rods for damage... especially the one with the hole punched thru it. I wouldn't doubt that it bent the rod.
3. Check the crankshaft for damage, i.e. whether it's bent or not (true)
4. Replace head for sure, that one is not salvageable.

With all that damage, I wouldn't doubt that it would be better just to replace the entire engine with a nice used one.

[ozbmw]

I think this engine can still be used ............. remove from car ........... drain all oils ..... get some stainless or galvanized chain and pass it around the crank then take the engine to where your boat is and sink the engine to form a more secure mooring.

Sorry to see such damage. Good luck finding a new engine for the transplant.

[united323is]

Man the more I look at those picture the more sick I get. Then I get sick thinking about my personal moneyshift repair bill...

[Ianbiz]

ouch!

[HBpredhunter]

F the euro boys and their engines. cop an s54.

[NHbmw325I]

I bought a moneyshifted motor, but it is nowhere close to how yours looks, good luck with it

[mxman]

85 BMW 325e engine swap tyme.... maybe a 350 chebby yeeehaw!

Sorry to see, man... I had this happen to me once on a LeBaron, the cable shift bolt came undone racing a fella and the shifter slipped to it's default 1-2 gate and i shifted from top of 3rd to 2nd... the clutch disc exploded, the car jumped a foot in the air and a huge explosion happened under the car, I still don't know what happened.. :o

Git yerself some jbweld! :D Good luck..

[Jrdeamicis]

It went from motor to art in 1 second. I would leave that in my living room.

[TH3 Shifty]

head is toast,
Engine cylinders definately need re-honing or machined (too much metal flying around in there after the piston was destroyed)
Oil passages are probably full of shavings from the piston..
Oil pump is F'd
valves replaced,
bearings are probably spun, if not mushroomed..
crank journals need to be check or re-cut..

just buy a used engine.. this will cost more in machine work than a new(used) engine. With that much metal in there.. it would need a very thorough engine rebuild.

[M3 Euro LTW]

F the euro boys and their engines. cop an s54.

These S54's are not even easy to throw into E46 non M3's.

Sure you could find a salvage S54 powered MZ3 or MZ3 Coupe for donor harness parts and such, but its far from plug and play for the average Joe on the street or for the average shop.

On the flip side, you can literally DROP a 3.0 into any E36 car if you add a decent radiator and exhaust and you're done. If you want a euro cluster, yeah, add one oil temp wire to the cluster harness.

If you want a 3.2, we can flash out the EWS issues, or pre-align it, or align it afterwards if the car has EWS II harness..... Still, it drops right in.

Go Euro... (and next time, could I get some foreplay before you F me?)

[zefyx]

:violinist

[Volf]

Wow. Looks like the script for a Keanu Reeves movie. Hope everything turns out well for you.

[Iguana8334]

wow, that makes me want to rip apart my head and replace every thing thats got a scratch.

I feel sorry for you dude