How to: Get low on Teins :)

[Digitalwave]

Before: about 1/4" lower than Tein's recommended specs:
http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album01/IMG_1496.jpg

After: remove one adjustment collar and park the other on the bottom welds:
http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album02/0115081409_G.jpg

And here are some more random cell phone pics. I got bored at work today and mounted a set of 740 16x8" rims with 235/60-16 tires :eyecrazy I might keep the rims but I definately need some smaller tires, if anybody wants to sell me some 16's!

The tire isn't even touching the ground here, that is full droop with the car still on the jack!

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album02/0115081406_G.jpg

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album02/0115081400_G.jpg

Rear fenders/tuck:
http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album02/0115081407_G.jpg

[SpasticDwarf]

that tire makes me lol.
your rear fenders make me envious, as does your stance.

[Digitalwave]

The tire just BARELY even made it into the fender. There's no way you could turn the steering wheel. Them shits are enormous.

[SpasticDwarf]

The tire just BARELY even made it into the fender. There's no way you could turn the steering wheel. Them shits are enormous.

Let's start a new fad. Gigantic tires. You down?

[DrBobOh]

I was thinking of putting some 325/85-15's on my E30, I'm ready to go when you guys are.

[bmw325e30]

I drove for a half hour with these on:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee249/shepardgw/0101081635.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee249/shepardgw/0101081636.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee249/shepardgw/0101081636a.jpg

Insane rubbage. Just ridiculous.

[Bingo]

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album02/0115081407_G.jpg

I wish :( :buttrock

[Butler]

Nice tuck.

and your car is so cleannnnn. :drool:

[Tuff Guy]

that must be a comfortable ride

[Bingo]

Let's start a new fad. Gigantic tires. You down?

Damn, now I gotta sell the E28 I just bought...

[SpasticDwarf]

Damn, now I gotta sell the E28 I just bought...

:rofl

[///M3Augy]

Mhmm I should lower my coilovers all the way...

[SpasticDwarf]

Mhmm I should lower my coilovers all the way...

Me too. I really want to now.

[BoNeZ325is]

damn teins.. hmm never expected that they would come out lookin that great..were did u get them from ?..im thinkin bout gettin some coilovers but i dont no exactly which one..the other coilovers are preety expensive..nd i no that the teins were cheaper than other coilovers for E36s

[Digitalwave]

The build quality is fucking incredible on the Teins. I bought mine from Adrenaline Racing.

[jszy25]

damn teins.. hmm never expected that they would come out lookin that great..were did u get them from ?..im thinkin bout gettin some coilovers but i dont no exactly which one..the other coilovers are preety expensive..nd i no that the teins were cheaper than other coilovers for E36s

I'm on the Tein SS's and I love them. Thought I'd throw that out there if your making up your mind on CO's...

OP: Car looks amazing as usual. I love the tuckage :alright

Any full side shots?

[Bingo]

Digitalwave, did Adrenaline used to carry the non-M basics? I could have sworn they did, but looking now they aren't there... just M3.

Favorite sedan on the board :buttrock

[birtdaeboy821]

The camber doesnt look too bad in that shot. My buddy had teins on him M3, nowhere near as low as you are and could only adjust up to -2.5* camber in the rear.
Nice tuck.
Car looks good.

[propcar]

it's easy to tuck the back... lets see you tuck the front :D

that's a challenge :P

[Ollie1662]

Nice. I'm doing this as soon as I get the chance.

[Duskin]

how exactly did you go about removing that bottom collar?

[Digitalwave]

I'm on the Tein SS's and I love them. Thought I'd throw that out there if your making up your mind on CO's...

OP: Car looks amazing as usual. I love the tuckage :alright

Any full side shots?

Thanks. Those are all the shots from today, but the car is due for a detail so I will be doing another photoshoot soon I hope.


Digitalwave, did Adrenaline used to carry the non-M basics? I could have sworn they did, but looking now they aren't there... just M3.

Favorite sedan on the board :buttrock

Thanks man! Adrenaline doesn't actually carry anything from Tein, they are just a dealer and they have Tein ship out the suspension when it is ordered. I just called and they said the non-M setup was not a problem, maybe it's not listed on their web site though. Mention BFC, I got a discount for it.


The camber doesnt look too bad in that shot. My buddy had teins on him M3, nowhere near as low as you are and could only adjust up to -2.5* camber in the rear.
Nice tuck.
Car looks good.

My car has -2.1* on all 4 corners.


it's easy to tuck the back... lets see you tuck the front :D

that's a challenge :P

The front tucks with a normal sized tire. Unfortunately, with my undersized 215/40-17's it doesn't tuck in the front :(


how exactly did you go about removing that bottom collar?

Remove the top spring hat, remove the spring, then unthread both of the collars all the way out. You want to remove the bottom one since the top one seats the bottom of the spring. Then just thread it all the way down, put the spring back, and reinstall the top spring hat/mount.

[propcar]

The front tucks with a normal sized tire. Unfortunately, with my undersized 215/40-17's it doesn't tuck in the front :(




GET IT DONE :D...

start off with with a bowl of macaroni and get krafty :shifty

[sogood]

my tires are wayyy too big. i gotta stretch them so i can tuck like you in the rear! well done!

[randytt]

do u have any pics of the front? i have teins and was thinking of doin that, but decided to not and just put on camber plates for that extra 1/4 inch.

[dynamik]

need more pics

[Digitalwave]

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album38/IMG_7634.jpg

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album32/IMG_7202.jpg

http://www.stasisproductions.com/portfolio/albums/album32/IMG_7196.jpg

[DTM Derek]

big fuggin tires looks a lot better than stretched tires imo

[SpasticDwarf]

big fuggin tires looks a lot better than stretched tires imo

To each his own I guess.. it's unfortunate some people's taste is so...

different? :dunno

[ultimachi]

I'm on the Tein SS's and I love them. Thought I'd throw that out there if your making up your mind on CO's...

OP: Car looks amazing as usual. I love the tuckage :alright

Any full side shots?

I'm on Teins as well and love them.

[Digitalwave]

big fuggin tires looks a lot better than stretched tires imo

Thank you for your opinion ;)

[DTM Derek]

Thank you for your opinion ;)

yea son.... big tires look great to me. i would rather see a car on 16"s packed full of tire than some screwy offset and 205s or 215s

big meaty looking tires looks good to me. this summer i think i'm going to go with 225s and 255s though.. i need moar grips..

[DTM Derek]

To each his own I guess.. it's unfortunate some people's taste is so...

different? :dunno

different is good, but not when its all the same difference... :embarrasm

my thoughts is that the only reason to go with bigger wheels is to fit more tire width not to get wheels that don't fit and make them fit with little bitty tires. i donno, maybe im just different

[99CosmosM3]

+1 for teins

[CLEANM3whipz]

Are these the tein basics or ss?? do you have a link to where you bought them?? I'm looking to get some for my M3

[theruss1an1]

*SNAP!*

That was the sound of your sway bar tab breaking.

-Serge

[propcar]

different is good, but not when its all the same difference... :embarrasm

my thoughts is that the only reason to go with bigger wheels is to fit more tire width not to get wheels that don't fit and make them fit with little bitty tires. i donno, maybe im just different

is it possible that one could have two sets of wheels?

I mean if one is such a track whore, he will have a dedicated set of track wheels and rubber. These are street wheels... on the street you don't need to have the biggest contact patch ever.

[Digitalwave]

Are these the tein basics or ss?? do you have a link to where you bought them?? I'm looking to get some for my M3

Basics. http://www.adrenalineracing.com/ call them up I don't think they are on their web site.


*SNAP!*

That was the sound of your sway bar tab breaking.

-Serge

10 minute fix if it happens...


is it possible that one could have two sets of wheels?

I mean if one is such a track whore, he will have a dedicated set of track wheels and rubber. These are street wheels... on the street you don't need to have the biggest contact patch ever.

That's why the 16's are likely to get R-compounds. I don't care though, every single thing with even a hint of tire stretching becomes a flame fest anyways.

[DTM Derek]

is it possible that one could have two sets of wheels?

I mean if one is such a track whore, he will have a dedicated set of track wheels and rubber. These are street wheels... on the street you don't need to have the biggest contact patch ever.

it is possible. i just don't think the super stretched tires would be very safe for daily driving. looks like one good pot hole would knock the bead loose or chew the wheel up

[DTM Derek]

Basics. http://www.adrenalineracing.com/ call them up I don't think they are on their web site.



10 minute fix if it happens...



That's why the 16's are likely to get R-compounds. I don't care though, every single thing with even a hint of tire stretching becomes a flame fest anyways.

what you talking about? there has been 2 or 3 threads in the past 2 months dedicated to nothing but tire stretching. more like nothing but a praise fest.

ex. i think 205 tires on 9 inch wheels is pretty silly.
255 on 9 inch, isn't.. or 225 even.

[propcar]

That's why the 16's are likely to get R-compounds. I don't care though, every single thing with even a hint of tire stretching becomes a flame fest anyways.

Come hang out at the VW forums... there's alot less douchebags

[Digitalwave]

it is possible. i just don't think the super stretched tires would be very safe for daily driving. looks like one good pot hole would knock the bead loose or chew the wheel up

How do you figure 215 on an 8.5 is "super stretched?" Go to www.falkentire.com and load up the Falken FK452 specs & sizes sheet. The 215/40-17 is rated for 7.0 to 8.5" tires. If it is factory approved by Falken how do you figure it is "very unsafe?"


Come hang out at the VW forums... there's alot less douchebags

I'm on the Vortex every day, but I never post because I don't want to be "that guy" :)

[propcar]

I'm on the Vortex every day, but I never post because I don't want to be "that guy" :)

Ah so am I... look me up danny_16v

you should get a mk2 or a rabbit as a beater slammed on its nutz stretched to the limit fun car :D

[TH3 Shifty]

gay... very gay... what are turning into? Low Rider BMW.com or something?

[525iT_Feen]

gay... very gay... what are turning into? Low Rider BMW.com or something?

This website used to be filled with useful info and it was actually fun to post pics of your cars to see what others would say. Now whenever a new thread is posted ATLEAST 50% of it is turned to complete sh*t by people posting useless stuff like what you just did. Stop wasting bandwidth.

[TH3 Shifty]

oh ok... so its not useless to post pictures of a car rediculously slammed... with the springs riding on the welds of the shocks???
oh ok... good because i thought incouraging others to do the same to their cars, and possibly wrecking their expensive coil overs was bad... silly me... this is such a good thread... im glad people out there are showing others how to go against manufacturer's advised installation specs... thanks for clearing that up...:rolleyes

[propcar]

oh ok... so its not useless to post pictures of a car rediculously slammed... with the springs riding on the welds of the shocks???
oh ok... good because i thought incouraging others to do the same to their cars, and possibly wrecking their expensive coil overs was bad... silly me... this is such a good thread... im glad people out there are showing others how to go against manufacturer's advised installation specs... thanks for clearing that up...:rolleyes

the only thing the other collar is for is for locking the bottom one when it's in the middle of the threads on the theaded body. It's not fucking rocket science. He was on the bottom of the threads anyways so he doesn't need to secure the collar with the second. The spring is still sitting on the collar and his has the same amount of suspension travel as before he took out the 2nd collar. In fact he probably has more travel now.

[Digitalwave]

oh ok... so its not useless to post pictures of a car rediculously slammed... with the springs riding on the welds of the shocks???
oh ok... good because i thought incouraging others to do the same to their cars, and possibly wrecking their expensive coil overs was bad... silly me... this is such a good thread... im glad people out there are showing others how to go against manufacturer's advised installation specs... thanks for clearing that up...:rolleyes

LOL, you truly are ignorant. What propcar said is right. The second collar is to keep the first collar from spinning. With the first collar resting at the bottom of the TEIN SUPPLIED THREADS you don't 'need' the second collar to keep the first collar from spinning since it's already at the bottom of the threads. There is nothing dangerous or potentially hazardous to the car or to the coilovers with this, or I wouldn't have done it.

If you knew anything about coilovers you'd see that the spring is resting on the top adjustment collar, not the welds of the shocks.

By the way, Tein's recommended specs are just that, recommendations. They are a good baseline for starting to set the height of your vehicle. But the coilovers are height adjustable, and what would be the point of buying them if you didn't tweak the ride height a little bit to fit your style?


the only thing the other collar is for is for locking the bottom one when it's in the middle of the threads on the theaded body. It's not fucking rocket science. He was on the bottom of the threads anyways so he doesn't need to secure the collar with the second. The spring is still sitting on the collar and his has the same amount of suspension travel as before he took out the 2nd collar. In fact he probably has more travel now.

[DmcL]

azev's and tuckage... mmmm....

btw hows the weather in west palm? my old man lives there. havent been over in ages :(

[propcar]

btw hows the weather in west palm? my old man lives there. havent been over in ages :(

it rocks.... I like west palm :( I'm cold in Atlanta right now

[Digitalwave]

azev's and tuckage... mmmm....

btw hows the weather in west palm? my old man lives there. havent been over in ages :(

68* and beautiful :)

[BeastinM3]

Shorty got low, low, low

Looks good man :thumbup:

[Bingo]

gay... very gay... what are turning into? Low Rider BMW.com or something?

:shifty

[SpasticDwarf]

gay... very gay... what are turning into? Low Rider BMW.com or something?

Valuable input.


oh ok... so its not useless to post pictures of a car rediculously slammed... with the springs riding on the welds of the shocks???
oh ok... good because i thought incouraging others to do the same to their cars, and possibly wrecking their expensive coil overs was bad... silly me... this is such a good thread... im glad people out there are showing others how to go against manufacturer's advised installation specs... thanks for clearing that up...

Even better.

[ZLUJ]

your cars dirty :confused.

[addnon]

Are Azevs japanese rims?

[NegativeCamber]

cool free mod, but id just buy shorter springs to get as low as you want.

[DTM Derek]

Valuable input.



Even better.

even though he is being a dick about it, he does bring up a decent point. do we mod our cars for better performance or for better looks? do people add bigger wheels for more grip to fit more tire for better traction or for more "bling bling appeal". Do we lower cars for the look of being super low and appearance of being track worthy or do we lower them for the stiffer springrate and lower center gravity?

I like the way this car looks on teins lowered down real low. looks great, but is handling now sacrificed?

again, i'm not hating on it, i love the way it looks actually, just wondering about how it drives now.. i'm only on bilstein's and eibachs right now, so my suspension is very minor at this time.. i'm thinking of going to coilovers this summer though

[DTM Derek]

Are Azevs japanese rims?

is the lip on your rear wheel photoshoped in your sig?

[Digitalwave]

Are Azevs japanese rims?

No, they are German.


even though he is being a dick about it, he does bring up a decent point. do we mod our cars for better performance or for better looks? do people add bigger wheels for more grip to fit more tire for better traction or for more "bling bling appeal". Do we lower cars for the look of being super low and appearance of being track worthy or do we lower them for the stiffer springrate and lower center gravity?

I like the way this car looks on teins lowered down real low. looks great, but is handling now sacrificed?

again, i'm not hating on it, i love the way it looks actually, just wondering about how it drives now.. i'm only on bilstein's and eibachs right now, so my suspension is very minor at this time.. i'm thinking of going to coilovers this summer though

Sure, if I ran 265's and raised the car up so the control arms weren't parallel with the ground, it would handle better. But it still handles amazing. I am not ashamed to say the car outhandles my driving abilities, and with that being the case, why do I need anything more? The coilovers and larger rims have definately increased the handling potential of the car. To think it handles worse than stock is laughable. If we were all going with max performance on the street we'd have cars on coilovers lowered 1/2" and R-compound tires. I like to find a balance between looks and performance. If it's not your style, I respect that. 255's on DSII's with H&R Sport springs is not my style, but different strokes for different folks.

[DTM Derek]

No, they are German.



Sure, if I ran 265's and raised the car up so the control arms weren't parallel with the ground, it would handle better. But it still handles amazing. I am not ashamed to say the car outhandles my driving abilities, and with that being the case, why do I need anything more? The coilovers and larger rims have definately increased the handling potential of the car. To think it handles worse than stock is laughable. If we were all going with max performance on the street we'd have cars on coilovers lowered 1/2" and R-compound tires. I like to find a balance between looks and performance. If it's not your style, I respect that. 255's on DSII's with H&R Sport springs is not my style, but different strokes for different folks.

my style is more TCklines, ground controls, or teins, lowered a couple of inches with 9-9.5s inthe rear and about 255-265 and about 8-8.5 with 225-235 in the front.. my idea of perfect balance between looks and performance. looks good on your being slammed. rides rough as hell though doesn't it? i learned my lesson lowering to the max before..:(

[SpasticDwarf]

my style is more TCklines, ground controls, or teins, lowered a couple of inches with 9-9.5s inthe rear and about 255-265 and about 8-8.5 with 225-235 in the front.. my idea of perfect balance between looks and performance. looks good on your being slammed. rides rough as hell though doesn't it? i learned my lesson lowering to the max before..:(

It really isn't rough unless your level of roughness is pretty shallow... I find my car rides almost no different on my 18x9.5 with 255/35's on it than it does slammed on the 17x8.5 with 215/40's.

[Digitalwave]

my style is more TCklines, ground controls, or teins, lowered a couple of inches with 9-9.5s inthe rear and about 255-265 and about 8-8.5 with 225-235 in the front.. my idea of perfect balance between looks and performance. looks good on your being slammed. rides rough as hell though doesn't it? i learned my lesson lowering to the max before..:(

The height of the car doesn't determine the ride, the spring rates and dampening rates determine the ride. In my case, with 450lb springs front and rear with perfectly matched valving, it rides quite well honestly. If I raised my car up 2" it would have the same ride quality.

[SethuM]

ur car is what i only could dream of!

[SpasticDwarf]

The height of the car doesn't determine the ride, the spring rates and dampening rates determine the ride. In my case, with 450lb springs front and rear with perfectly matched valving, it rides quite well honestly. If I raised my car up 2" it would have the same ride quality.


But the tires would make a difference ;) <333