Brake Dust free pads?

[M3Jokster]

Is it better to have brake pads that produces brake dust than to purchase pads that produces less or no brake dust?

the reason why i ask is bc......the pads will last longer on "non-brake dust pads" bc it's eating up the rotors......thus will cause warping

right guys?

correct me if i'm wrong

[FLiPModE]

i have pbr deluxe , they work fine, and have virtually no dust

[Stylin]

I just installed PBR deluxes.. Barely any dust.. I LOVE THESE PADS!

[Jim O.]

Originally posted by M3Jokster
the reason why i ask is bc......the pads will last longer on "non-brake dust pads" bc it's eating up the rotors......thus will cause warping

right guys?

correct me if i'm wrong

Sorry, but I think you're wrong. Amount of brake dust really doesn't have anything to do with "eating up the rotors". For example, Hawk Blues are really dusty track pads that will totally wear out your rotors when they're cold, like at street temps. Heck, when they're cold, you can see sparks flying off your rotors, like you were holding them to a grinding wheel. On the other hand, Repco/PBR/Axxis Deluxes don't dust, but are really gentle on rotors.

Also, it's not the wear that usually causes rotors to warp - it's overheating and uneven cooling that does it.

Jim

[Mode]

I need to chime in with <b>FLiPModE</b> and <b>Stylin</b>. PBR Deluxes produce very little brake dust - even light gray when it does appear. Functionally, they are great.

[tlp-96M3/2]

I've got PBR Deluxe in the front and the stock in the back. Now I'm going to have to change the rears also because the car looks very funny after a few days with dust only on the rear wheels. PBR's are clean!!!

[///M3 4-LIFE]

I hear that. I have all stock Pagids, and after one day, they are dusty as hell! But they give good bite. I just bought a new set that I have yet to put on, since I am selling it.

[Jeff P]

I have Mintex Deluxe pads all around, but have used PBR deluxe in the past. Both are virtually dust-free and offer awesome stopping power. You will not go wrong with these puppies!

[robbym]

What about brake squeeling with the pbr deluxes though?

[C///M3]

If prepped and installed properly, the PBRs make no squeal. I like my Deluxes also... very low dust. At worst, they turn my white rims light grey where my stock pads were turning then almost black in a week.

One thing I have noticed with the deluxes, they dont seem to bite hard when hot. ie after a couple hard stops, they begin to seem weak... has n e one else noticed this or is it just me?

[corwyn]

What about EBC Red Stuff?

Also, what constitutes "prepped and installed correctly"?

Thanks...

[vroo//M]

Originally posted by robbym
What about brake squeeling with the pbr deluxes though?

Yea, what constitutes "proper prepping"?

My PBR deluxes still squeals after 3 weeks. I thought they will go away after a while.

-E-

[tlp-96M3/2]

Originally posted by vroo//M


Yea, what constitutes "proper prepping"?

My PBR deluxes still squeals after 3 weeks. I thought they will go away after a while.

-E-

I installed new Brembo Rotors and PBR deluxe's at the same time(no seasoning) in the front and I dont have any sqeaking at all. I didn't apply any anti-sqeak compound also. It's been about about 1000 miles with no problems at all. The brakes work good but I agree that they don't seem to bite as hard as the factory pagid's. For street driving they are fine. I bought them primarily because they are practically dustless and I hated cleaning my ///M 10 spokers every few days.

[M3Jokster]

thanks guys, what an education!

:)

[C///M3]

Im no brake expert, but I meant that you could prevent a lot of the squeaking by making sure you clean everything thoroughly. I also sprayed two coats of anti-squeal on the backings. I almost used a whole can of brake cleaner when changing my rotors and pads last time.

Also, follow the recommend break in procedure.

[C.Yang]

how are the PBR Deluxes for the track? I'm looking for a pad which does both pretty well. Also, where did you guys get, and for how much. Im interested.

[mrclam]

anyone know anything about Hawk pads?

[Jim O.]

PBR Deluxes suck on the track - they will overheat and basically melt. Heck, you can get them to fade on the street with a few good, hard stops. Not recommended for track use at all. They're designed to be a low dust street pad, that's all.

There are a few pads that will work for light track duty, like Porterfield R4S, Carbotech (I forgot the model...), Hawk HP+, etc. but you're better off just biting the bullet and changing pads. Easy to do, doesn't take very long, and it's probably cheaper in the long run to buy a set of track pads and a set of cheap street pads (like PBR's).

Jim

[frayed]

Originally posted by Jim O.
PBR Deluxes suck on the track - they will overheat and basically melt. Heck, you can get them to fade on the street with a few good, hard stops. Not recommended for track use at all. They're designed to be a low dust street pad, that's all.

There are a few pads that will work for light track duty, like Porterfield R4S, Carbotech (I forgot the model...), Hawk HP+, etc. but you're better off just biting the bullet and changing pads. Easy to do, doesn't take very long, and it's probably cheaper in the long run to buy a set of track pads and a set of cheap street pads (like PBR's).

Jim

Agreed! Same holds true for Rotex pads as well. Like the PBR's, great on the street, even for spirited driving. Don't even think about the track. I found out first hand.