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malter
12-08-2007, 12:54 AM
for now...

M3BimmerBilly
12-08-2007, 12:58 AM
all true. E36 is garbage. But im a poor person so it suits me well.

seeyalaterrr
12-08-2007, 01:00 AM
:wavey




Bye.

Zubehor
12-08-2007, 01:05 AM
ha-ha are you ok man? did something happen today?
i do agree with you on most of your points, but the car is still not that bad.

malter
12-08-2007, 01:08 AM
as the drug dealer from the movie "Go" said it with respect to newspaper comics

I hate it, yet I'm uncontrollably drawn to it

old habits die hard :(

BmwAlpinaB2.5
12-08-2007, 01:16 AM
I got what you are saying. I post a thread before and telling people how the camry torque is amazing and people get mad at me. I told them to go test drive one and they keep bashing me for it. I know this is a bmw forum but you cant look down at other cars just because you have an m3 or other bmw model. you cant keep thinking e36 is the best car ever and no other modern car can beat it. if is up to me I will still chose bmw over another car brand, but I know there are cars out there that have more hp and torque then the e36


g2g, girlfriend wants me to go bed.:D

m3mobbin
12-08-2007, 01:29 AM
That sucks man, I'll gladly take it off your hands...

E36M34life
12-08-2007, 01:30 AM
Your making the E36 sound like a complete POS, and its not nearly as bad as you think. You my friend just got a black sheep E36, it was not taken care of in its life on the road, and thats why your car specifically is a POS.

I have said it before and I will say it again, before you buy your E36, GET A PPI and look for one that hasn't been molested. Thats the only way you wont end up like this guy over here.

Oh and btw, 2/3 of the "problems" your car has, I can take care of in one saturday. I have zero sympathy for you, infact I have more sympathy for the car because it ended up with an owner like you, and the previouse owner probably wasn't too great either.

I cant believe some of the things you listed, shame :(

afizidris
12-08-2007, 01:31 AM
bad day uh, malter? dont worry days out, nights in eat sleep and 2morow u'll love ur e36 again
i guarantee it (afterall u r the 'bmw aficionado')

sweet thirty six dreams

Z Driver
12-08-2007, 01:33 AM
Don't buy or let your car turn into a POS next time.

TAMUmpower
12-08-2007, 01:41 AM
Mine is great! your cars a dud, lol

epj3
12-08-2007, 01:54 AM
Sounds like you're angry at your inability to 1.) Buy a good car and 2.) Take care of said car.

"Front bumper is sagging"

well, fix it?

"belts are new but sounds are driving me nuts"

then it's probably not the belts?

"drives straight, but i bet alignment is all over the place"

There are these guys called "mechanics" who, by trade, can do an alignment for you

etc.

honda954racer03
12-08-2007, 01:57 AM
bullshit, e36 best cars ever made

malter
12-08-2007, 02:03 AM
god damn noobs. whatever happened to teaching kids how to read between the lines....

i heard elvis is alive and well.

epj3
12-08-2007, 02:13 AM
god damn noobs. whatever happened to teaching kids how to read between the lines....

i heard elvis is alive and well.

Sorry, i'm a little drunk :redspot You shouldn't drink and reply.

blacksage
12-08-2007, 02:13 AM
im never getting pussy in this car the way it drives and feels. i might as well get a comfy buick le sabre. have more chance with it.

:lol

stupenal
12-08-2007, 02:36 AM
eh. i completely understand and agree with you.

went from a 92 325i to a 2001 honda accord coupe 5spd. The accord was great...for about 3 months. I still miss the comfy ride, nice stereo, quality interior, drive it to the ground type maintenance. But after 3 months, it was the most boring, lifeless car I've ever driven. Now my m3 seems to have similar "symptoms" as yours

Mister X
12-08-2007, 02:42 AM
Maybe you should perform some maintenance?

MauiM3Mania
12-08-2007, 02:49 AM
im never getting pussy in this car the way it drives and feels.

The car you drive has nothing to do with that problem. :nono

malter
12-08-2007, 02:52 AM
The car you drive has nothing to do with that problem. :nono


hmm really?

Mister X
12-08-2007, 03:07 AM
hmm really?

You're still in high school aren't ya?

malter
12-08-2007, 03:10 AM
you read me like an open book sir.

ptldM3
12-08-2007, 03:47 AM
your car was molested, take care of it! cracked lights, sagging bumpers, bent wheels you make it sound like it's factory defects. E36s don't suck just yours.

EURO M3 CSL
12-08-2007, 04:52 AM
i say u should just sell it to someone who knows how to take care of a E36 :) problem solved!

L3R E36
12-08-2007, 06:14 AM
you are embarrassing- with that said,
get off your ass and learn how to fix some shit.
most of the things you listed are things your lazy ass could learn how to do.
or
buy a honda, and delete yourself from this forum

NollieStylz
12-08-2007, 07:25 AM
I could say the same about my favorite pair of jeans, or my room, whatever. Car's are imperfect and becomes more apparent as they get older. You either keep it up or you let it die a fast death.

If you fixed just one of those things you'd be happier inside, I think you're just lazy.

ChosenGSR
12-08-2007, 07:43 AM
:rofl:

korto
12-08-2007, 08:07 AM
Very good writeup (if the reader does not miss the whole point, that is). :lol

phantom3
12-08-2007, 08:15 AM
It holds up just as well as any other car from 1996, it just costs a little more to keep it maintained . But I understand your frustrations , it seems to be a never ending battle of things to fix on mine , good luck .

wingnut1961
12-08-2007, 08:24 AM
diagnosis - Oldcarus Overloadus or possibly Maintenantitis. Fix one problem a week and think about that new car payment you don't have to make.

The Letter M
12-08-2007, 09:04 AM
Oh God, more whining about how an old car isn't new anymore....

Mine is in excellent shape & if I ever have a problem with it, I'd fix it, because I've learned by now that no machine can fix itself, and certainly no car could, so it needs you to fix parts that wear out when you wear them out.. ain't no rocket science here.

Mine handles very well in comparison to many other older & newer cars I've driven, but maybe that's because I refresh stock parts at reasonable intervals & didn't rush out & buy aftermarket stuff that I don't know how to set up to make it better, but I certainly wouldn't bitch about it when I couldn't get it right.

Yours is an exception to the norm.

I guess you get out if it what you put into it.

Read between those lines.

MarkR540
12-08-2007, 10:11 AM
if u want a low maintainence car that doesnt require adjustments, little fixes then get a 1996 honda accord. my dad has one with 210k on it and drivers to work and back every day, about 80 miles round trip, and gets about 28mpg. And it doesnt require premium like the M3. You want an E90 eh? Just think, someday those will be "shitty and drive like crap" too. Have fun DIYing when the warranty is up. hope you have lots of KY cuz you will need it when something breaks on that thing. I like my E36 M3. It aint perfect but thats how most used cars are. Its something im proud of owning and i like working on cars.

you sound like my friend who bought a 20 year old E30 and thinks it should be defect free despite having almost 180k on it. The selector shaft inside the tranny broke and now its stuck in reverse. Instead of swapping in a new tranny for $300 plus install hes going to "put it in storage and restore it" and just buy a POS ford contour which he will most likely run into the ground since he cant take care of anything. Which might also be another part of your problem.

M///BMW
12-08-2007, 10:19 AM
Um ok.

Kiddoe36
12-08-2007, 12:47 PM
:headshot

wtf??? waste of a post.

Roguls
12-08-2007, 12:52 PM
you are embarrassing- with that said,
get off your ass and learn how to fix some shit.
most of the things you listed are things your lazy ass could learn how to do.
or
buy a honda, and delete yourself from this forum


Whoa...his post was satirical. Easy there.

giterdone
12-08-2007, 01:30 PM
I do believe he was mocking many threads we've seen as of late by compiling all of the complaints we get, where people complain about something, and are just too lazy to take care of the vehicle. :)

Theodore
12-08-2007, 02:44 PM
I do believe he was mocking many threads we've seen as of late by compiling all of the complaints we get, where people complain about something, and are just too lazy to take care of the vehicle. :)

Pretty much! I was pissed as I read it, then it's true purpose came to me and I lol'd. Haha, sounds like a lot of people on the forum too. :D

Jrdeamicis
12-08-2007, 03:22 PM
I like fixing my m3's problems because

A) I know how to fix it when it comes back or for friends
B) I learned something
C) It betters my car

HBpredhunter
12-08-2007, 03:28 PM
dont jinx me a-hole!

mine has NONE of those problems! it is mint currently! and it handles like a gocart. so go take your pile e36 and logonto pelican parts .com and quite your whinning and order up some parts and fix your issues.

if it handles poorly, you either messed up installing something or missed it.

either that or leave the forum, we dont need you jinxin everybody elses e36 that has few problems. we all know what the piles are like. (been there done that)

HBpredhunter
12-08-2007, 03:30 PM
oh and btw- i can smoke most any g35 or 350z out there. even when i was stock with m50 manifold and rear exhaust. i was beating z's by a few car lengths.

honda954racer03
12-08-2007, 04:20 PM
I love working on my e36, almost as much as driving it

bemdubya
12-08-2007, 04:24 PM
i LOVE it when it works. HATE IT WHEN IT DOESN't AKA RIGHT NOW STUPID BLOWN TRANSMISSION.

Drexial
12-08-2007, 04:31 PM
nasty sound at full steering lock
rear bumper full of dents, small hits
body has rust spots, acid rain corrosion, water spots
front brakes are shot and squeak
snow wheels and tires annoy me, they are butt ugly
ah yeah how can we forget infamous glove box
everything squeaks, rattles and feels like 80's domestic
fog light is cracked
headlights are building up a nice film
salt from sweaty palms left steering wheel in chewed up state.
tires wear in bizzare patterns.
you better pull e-brake or mother will roll into something
seams don't really much - i just pretend they do
speedometer back light has dim spots at 4k and 120mph.
spare is flat. it loses air.
power steering i think has a leak. i pretend that i don't see it.
headlight light pattern is cockeyed
2 wheels are bent, flaking and losing air have scratches and look shitty

First off any of these problems are with any older car.. I don't know exactly what you thik you were getting with an older car. You take any other car with as many miles as most of the cars the people drive in here and i bet you they will have 5-10 times as many problems.

You don't hate the E36, you hate any old car.

Secondly there is a difference between handling and road comfort. My parents Ford Taurus from 3 years ago feels a lot more comfortable. But its not going to out handle it. Even being 3 years old it needed $2000 in suspension work done. Now i know its a ford. But its still a newer car.

I'm not gonna say that the E36 is the best car in the world, or even the M3 at any generation. But i like it and i knew what i was getting when i bought it. Its an older car and it requires maintenance. If you want a car that doesn't require work, you're gonna be replacing your cars within 2 years.

Drexial
12-08-2007, 04:33 PM
i guess i missed the point :-p

but i feel my point stands for anyone that really belived in any of this crap :-p

96 328i
12-08-2007, 05:06 PM
You don't respect the car it won't respect you! We need people like you though. You're the type of guy that throws away a hardly used chainsaw or weed eater when all it needs is a carb kit because the diaphragm dried out from sitting or the gas in it is so stale it won't start. Then you go out and buy a new one and start the cycle all over again and some lucky guy finds the new one you threw out and is happy as a clam. Like I said, we need people like you, so lets ease up on this guy and let him buy us things.

L3R E36
12-08-2007, 06:38 PM
if OP was somehow trying to be funny or sarcastic or something- maybe he should do some knock-knock jokes... his post on the other hand, not funny- just embarassing

QuickSilver M3
12-08-2007, 06:40 PM
maybe if you kept it up better you wouldn't be moaning about so many of it's problems.

Tim95M3
12-08-2007, 06:52 PM
my pulleys chirp, my side bolsters are worn, i have a small exhaust leak, rear tires last 5k miles at most, check coolant light doesnt stop, airbag light is on, lacks in low end due to sticky vanos unit, cant take my midpipe off without breaking studs on manifolds, i have shitty manifolds, i cant beat my friends supercharged e36 or even a stock sti, i cant beat ls1's, the finish on my rims is chipping, my steering wheel is wearing out, the pixels are gone in my OBC, i cant read 100mph at night cuz the cluster is delaminating, i cant afford F/I on these cars, my kidneys are loose, my car is about 500 lbs too heavy,

God I love my car ;) And i'll have it forever.
And yes, I can easily beat a light bolton VQ35 equipped vehicle. :nono

Techno ///M3
12-08-2007, 07:37 PM
you either bought it that way or made it that way.

M KART 1
12-09-2007, 01:45 AM
you are embarrassing- with that said,
get off your ass and learn how to fix some shit.
most of the things you listed are things your lazy ass could learn how to do.
or
buy a honda, and delete yourself from this forum

AMEN:devillook

Bimmer325
12-09-2007, 02:46 AM
ok so is this a joke then, some believe it to be, others are bunching their panties.

Snork
12-09-2007, 03:16 AM
Jokes usually consist of two or more contradictory elements that are resolved in an unexpected way. See? That was hilarious, I'm cracking up already... But that sir, was not what I would call a "joke".

hellrot98m3
12-09-2007, 03:26 AM
:lol

idk man i seem to make out pretty damn good in that dept with my e36 maybe your just doing it wrong

Leco
12-09-2007, 09:04 AM
Man, your car is not alive. When something broke, you have to fix it. Your car handle like a shit because something is broke on your suspension.

Chill, just send your car to a local shop, do the necessary maintenance and problem solved. Or sel to somebody who will take care of your M3, buy a brand new BMW, destroy it again and then buy a Honda and live forever with it.

BTW nice post, funny.

RiCoZM3
12-09-2007, 10:18 AM
Man, your car is not alive. When something broke, you have to fix it. Your car handle like a shit because something is broke on your suspension.

Chill, just send your car to a local shop, do the necessary maintenance and problem solved. Or sel to somebody who will take care of your M3, buy a brand new BMW, destroy it again and then buy a Honda and live forever with it.

BTW nice post, funny.

wtf?:dunno

Jamil1
12-28-2008, 05:23 PM
Aloha from the Big Island, Hawaii!

Thanks for your informative website! I appreciate the effort involved in putting information out there for others to use in working on their BMWs.

I am the proud owner of an '89 325 iS (which unfortunately due to a moment of inattention, I drove into the high bumper of a Ford tour van and tilted my front grill and put the radiator into the fan - no damage apparent to either one....I removed the hood, used a friend's tow strap, pulled the front away from the fan and drove 85 miles home.....it sits waiting for me to pull the front out properly, fix the dent in the front lip of the hood and get it back on the road...) and the not as proud owner of a '94 325 iC.

I got the convertible on a whim and have been kicking myself since....I am SO disappointed in the quality (or lack thereof) that BMW allowed to leave the factory in their name....

My '89 has over 210K miles and not a squeak or rattle, the interior, body, etc are all fully functional ('cept for the worn speedo gear which I need to replace) whereas the newer car with only 83K miles has a long list of things wrong with it....The previous owner claimed to have it regularly serviced and repaired by the local BMW service shop (not a dealer, by the way...there wasn't one here at the time) and from appearances and the owner's relatively high economic status and her overrall demeanor, seemed like an accurate statement. It also had its own indoor parking at her house...

A brief list of its problems:
- the top only opens slowly, needs manual help retracting
-the gas tank will leak if filled over 3/4
-the passenger door opening sensor doesn't work so the window won't retract and the interior light won't come on, so I have to remember to drop the window a crack when I open/close the door.
-the interior trim has come unglued around the side pockets, the top of the fiber backing under the windows, the naugahyde (or whatever it is) has shrunk and pulled away from its backing in places and bulges.
-the car squeaks and rattles over the road, something perhaps attributable (?) to the fact that it is a conv. and lacks the rigidity of a coupe.
-the ride is mushy and one of the front shocks is leaking
-the am/fm cassette player just quit working. I was playing my ipod through the radio, so the fact that it was a cassette player wasn't an issue, but it started popping and clicking then quit....
-the glove box won't close completely so the light is always on in there.
-2 of the 4 window switches will only work on momentary: need to hold the button down to raise/drop the window while the other two respond to the auto mode: press the button harder and it'll go up/down automatically.
-the cruise control lever doesn't respond every time, sometimes I have to toggle it a couple of times to get it to stay on.
-it doesn't always shift to a higher gear after accelerating until I take my foot off the gas, other times it seems smooth (BTW it is an automatic....I don't really know what possessed me to consider an automatic BMW.....I guess I though less shifting in traffic may be a good thing....HAH!)
-the trunk light doesn't always come on
-the area around the shift lever gets really hot (around the boot) and I have to remember not to leave anything heat sensitive there...
-the heater/cooling controls sort of work- sometimes...
-just the other day, the speedo control went out, something I lived with for a couple of days until we had a rain that was too heavy for the intermittent setting and too light for the high speed so there I was driving down the road with my finger flicking the momentary every couple of seconds.....
-etc. etc... a whole buncha small things one wouldn't expect to have wrong with a car like this....

On the surface, it is a really "pretty" car, kind of a red burgandy color. The exterior is actually in pretty good shape. (Or was....someone backed into my rear fender in a supermarket lot last week and scraped some of the paint off!) People comment when they see it and I have to tell them that it looks nicer than it really is.

I've looked all over the web and tried to find a way to contact BMW and complain, but it seems they hide themselves pretty well! No email address or phone number. Not even a mailing address!

I thought that perhaps you might have access to some way that I could contact the company with the VIN and find out if there was an issue with that series or if I just got as "lemon"...

On a different note, is there somewhere I can get the factory dimensions for the engine compartment of my '89 like from the firewall to the radiator mount or the hood latch etc. to have a frame of reference when I try and pull it out? Failing that I guess I could approach someone with an E30 and ask them if I can take measurements under their hood....heh heh...

Anyway, sorry to go on and on...

Thanks for any input you may have under the circumstances.

Until later, be well and keep wrenching!

Jamil Samimi

cliffhopper
12-28-2008, 05:48 PM
you forgot the differential blew up and the oil pump nut came off

theimage
12-28-2008, 06:28 PM
I was tempted to sub-categorize your list of problems. But basically, most of the problems indicate that the car is not being maintained. Many of us would have addressed each problem as it appeared, not wait for them to accumulate until we totally hate the car. A couple problems are cosmetic due to owner neglect. It's your choice to have snow tires and wheels. Some items could be easily fixed. Having the wheels aligned would also resolve poor tire wear patterns. Replacing the brakes would also make it no longer necessary to use the e-brake to slow down.

No personal attacks upon you.
I just think the car itself deserves less blame than you give it.

dr ed
12-28-2008, 06:39 PM
you are embarrassing- with that said,
get off your ass and learn how to fix some shit.
most of the things you listed are things your lazy ass could learn how to do.
or
buy a honda, and delete yourself from this forum

Heck, even some parts on the honda is harder than a e36. OP def fails.

AvusBlua M3
12-28-2008, 06:47 PM
That sucks man, I'll gladly take it off your hands...

yea +1 :shifty

never had any problems with mine

STAGGERED M3
12-28-2008, 06:48 PM
New cars are boring! Unless you have a shit load of money and can make them unboring:)

not2quick
12-28-2008, 07:02 PM
Picky picky picky, you deserve a new car payment.

(malter does)

e36cruiser
12-28-2008, 07:31 PM
junk it.

ilya1585
12-28-2008, 09:50 PM
Think of your E36 like a woman...
* She wines but you pay attention because you love her
* You constantly have to put money in her to keep her happy
* You always think yours looks better than everyone elses
* MOST IMPORTANTLY she puts a smile on your face.

Fix whatevers wrong, buckle up, and ride her till the wheels fall off!!

I hump my M3
12-28-2008, 10:07 PM
yeah I know only E36's get dents and dings. Vote ban his dumb ass ?


yea +1 :shifty

never had any problems with mine


Yeah +2 mine has been a dream.


Your making the E36 sound like a complete POS, and its not nearly as bad as you think. You my friend just got a black sheep E36, it was not taken care of in its life on the road, and thats why your car specifically is a POS.

I have said it before and I will say it again, before you buy your E36, GET A PPI and look for one that hasn't been molested. Thats the only way you wont end up like this guy over here.

Oh and btw, 2/3 of the "problems" your car has, I can take care of in one saturday. I have zero sympathy for you, infact I have more sympathy for the car because it ended up with an owner like you, and the previouse owner probably wasn't too great either.

I cant believe some of the things you listed, shame :(

Exactly what he said :clap but in my version I bitchslap you so hard your poorly maintained teeth fall out of your fat head.

Butler
12-28-2008, 10:19 PM
. im never getting pussy in this car the way it drives and feels. i might as well get a comfy buick le sabre. have more chance with it.

^^ I got a very good laugh out of this :lol :rofl: OMG LOL.



This is a great thread. Reminds me how hard I worked for my M and how long I waited for the perfect one. :)

OP,
Im sorry your car has gotten older and it seems like either A) you bought a @#$% up E36, and therefore paid less than what its worth knowing that it was beat to hell. B) your in high school and don't know how to fix your own car or can't afford to pay someone else to do it for you. :az

Sell the damn thing if your unhappy.


I on the other hand, have a ridiculously huge soft spot for these cars (probably because I have wanted one since I was 14 :dunno :D) and I fall in love with my car every time I walk into my garage and see it waiting for me. :drool:

318drivour
12-28-2008, 10:21 PM
lol @ this thread

Dricebrug
12-28-2008, 10:50 PM
best car is the new car.

Incorrect.

You suck.

Xuracing
12-28-2008, 10:56 PM
I hate mine just as much as you do, and i just started

Le Nitro
12-28-2008, 11:06 PM
i just got my e36 and other than me putting a new roundel on it, some new tires, and fixing the driver side door handle, i love it.

Although I will say my 05 gti was very fun, and i loved that car too. I miss it sometimes and at some points wish I kept it. 05 w/ 26k miles on it and it drove like it was new.

Tommay85
12-28-2008, 11:08 PM
My car:
airbag light on(passenger seat occupancy sensor)
check engine light(large evap leak, most likely fuel cap)
ABS/ASC failure every once in awhile
squeaky belts
Vanos just starting to make a little noise(just when cold)
Suspension needs a refresh of all the bushings
Need Shocks
Wheels are out of balance(not the cars fault, piss poor tire shop)

All these considered, I get all giddy every time I see it and have a huge shit eating grin on my face when I drive it!

It's nice when you know what needs work, getting the parts, getting good weather, fixing it and enjoying your nice new ride.

ilya1585
12-28-2008, 11:14 PM
An E36 is Definitely a PUSSY REPELLENT......But my E36 M attracts more bitches than a 2for1 sale at gap

RotaryBzzz
12-29-2008, 12:34 AM
An E36 is Definitely a PUSSY REPELLENT......But my E36 M attracts more bitches than a 2for1 sale at gap

This is true...even in Los Angeles. Girls/ Women here known what M's are....and as long as your e36 M shines like new....everything is golden baby.

I've had women think my 95 is 1-year old.

kramerbuccs24
12-29-2008, 12:43 AM
An E36 is Definitely a PUSSY REPELLENT......But my E36 M attracts more bitches than a 2for1 sale at gap

:lol

BMMan
12-29-2008, 10:10 AM
What you talking about e36 and e46 been rubbish i have 3 e46 apart from the subframe tear on my 328i sport which was fixed for free by Bmw Uk i have not had these much problems on all three of cars that you have had. Plus i have ordered a e90 M3 i loved the car but it lacks the soul of the E36 and the e46.
My advice to you is sell your E36 buy a Carmary and see how much pussy you get. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR:mad Rant over.


Aloha from the Big Island, Hawaii!

Thanks for your informative website! I appreciate the effort involved in putting information out there for others to use in working on their BMWs.

I am the proud owner of an '89 325 iS (which unfortunately due to a moment of inattention, I drove into the high bumper of a Ford tour van and tilted my front grill and put the radiator into the fan - no damage apparent to either one....I removed the hood, used a friend's tow strap, pulled the front away from the fan and drove 85 miles home.....it sits waiting for me to pull the front out properly, fix the dent in the front lip of the hood and get it back on the road...) and the not as proud owner of a '94 325 iC.

I got the convertible on a whim and have been kicking myself since....I am SO disappointed in the quality (or lack thereof) that BMW allowed to leave the factory in their name....

My '89 has over 210K miles and not a squeak or rattle, the interior, body, etc are all fully functional ('cept for the worn speedo gear which I need to replace) whereas the newer car with only 83K miles has a long list of things wrong with it....The previous owner claimed to have it regularly serviced and repaired by the local BMW service shop (not a dealer, by the way...there wasn't one here at the time) and from appearances and the owner's relatively high economic status and her overrall demeanor, seemed like an accurate statement. It also had its own indoor parking at her house...

A brief list of its problems:
- the top only opens slowly, needs manual help retracting
-the gas tank will leak if filled over 3/4
-the passenger door opening sensor doesn't work so the window won't retract and the interior light won't come on, so I have to remember to drop the window a crack when I open/close the door.
-the interior trim has come unglued around the side pockets, the top of the fiber backing under the windows, the naugahyde (or whatever it is) has shrunk and pulled away from its backing in places and bulges.
-the car squeaks and rattles over the road, something perhaps attributable (?) to the fact that it is a conv. and lacks the rigidity of a coupe.
-the ride is mushy and one of the front shocks is leaking
-the am/fm cassette player just quit working. I was playing my ipod through the radio, so the fact that it was a cassette player wasn't an issue, but it started popping and clicking then quit....
-the glove box won't close completely so the light is always on in there.
-2 of the 4 window switches will only work on momentary: need to hold the button down to raise/drop the window while the other two respond to the auto mode: press the button harder and it'll go up/down automatically.
-the cruise control lever doesn't respond every time, sometimes I have to toggle it a couple of times to get it to stay on.
-it doesn't always shift to a higher gear after accelerating until I take my foot off the gas, other times it seems smooth (BTW it is an automatic....I don't really know what possessed me to consider an automatic BMW.....I guess I though less shifting in traffic may be a good thing....HAH!)
-the trunk light doesn't always come on
-the area around the shift lever gets really hot (around the boot) and I have to remember not to leave anything heat sensitive there...
-the heater/cooling controls sort of work- sometimes...
-just the other day, the speedo control went out, something I lived with for a couple of days until we had a rain that was too heavy for the intermittent setting and too light for the high speed so there I was driving down the road with my finger flicking the momentary every couple of seconds.....
-etc. etc... a whole buncha small things one wouldn't expect to have wrong with a car like this....

On the surface, it is a really "pretty" car, kind of a red burgandy color. The exterior is actually in pretty good shape. (Or was....someone backed into my rear fender in a supermarket lot last week and scraped some of the paint off!) People comment when they see it and I have to tell them that it looks nicer than it really is.

I've looked all over the web and tried to find a way to contact BMW and complain, but it seems they hide themselves pretty well! No email address or phone number. Not even a mailing address!

I thought that perhaps you might have access to some way that I could contact the company with the VIN and find out if there was an issue with that series or if I just got as "lemon"...

On a different note, is there somewhere I can get the factory dimensions for the engine compartment of my '89 like from the firewall to the radiator mount or the hood latch etc. to have a frame of reference when I try and pull it out? Failing that I guess I could approach someone with an E30 and ask them if I can take measurements under their hood....heh heh...

Anyway, sorry to go on and on...

Thanks for any input you may have under the circumstances.

Until later, be well and keep wrenching!

Jamil Samimi


The car is 19 years old that is older then me what do you expect Bmw to do for you send you a E90 for free at this age you expect things to go wrong and may need to replace things it is part of classic car ownership.:mad:shifty

zhollett
12-29-2008, 10:50 AM
Think of your E36 like a woman...
* She wines but you pay attention because you love her
* You constantly have to put money in her to keep her happy
* You always think yours looks better than everyone elses
* MOST IMPORTANTLY she puts a smile on your face.

Fix whatevers wrong, buckle up, and ride her till the wheels fall off!!


+ 1

mipktb
12-29-2008, 12:14 PM
im never getting pussy in this car the way it drives and feels.
Somehow, I feel like you're priorities may be a little off...

Xiphos
12-29-2008, 12:16 PM
My car seems to work pretty well. For being 10 years old, it runs and operates extremely well for all the technology that goes into the car. Maybe I just spend more time working on my car then making a big post about how horrible the problems are.

hinzm3
12-29-2008, 12:17 PM
I don't have any of those problems, seems like you just have a POS that was never maintained.

95M3blackout
12-29-2008, 01:24 PM
K? space is the place

the 350z/g35-0z.....with glam sparkles lining you thoughts..... sell your m3, you dont know how to use it

If you cant get pussy it aint because you drive an M3?......how ironic that is

BMMan
12-29-2008, 02:03 PM
What you talking about e36 and e46 been rubbish i have 3 e46 apart from the subframe tear on my 328i sport which was fixed for free by Bmw Uk i have not had these much problems on all three of cars that you have had. Plus i have ordered a e90 M3 i loved the car but it lacks the soul of the E36 and the e46.
My advice to you is sell your E36 buy a Carmary and see how much pussy you get. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR:mad Rant over.

WytLytnyn
12-29-2008, 03:38 PM
Sounds like OP bought without a PPI or didn't get off his azz to fix his stuff as it broke. I have no sympathy either way.

Don't you have any local buddies out here who wrench on their own E36's/E46's? Some of that silly stuff on your list sounds like you could take care of it pretty easily. People scratch their rims and their spare tires get low on air and they go and put more air in the damn thing and go get their wheels repainted. Find a DIY on how to do (or not to do) a brake job or whatever else needs addressing.

You're really opening yourself up to a small bit of criticism with your ranting. Anytime I rant, I've not only tried to fix something, I've probably f'd it up even more, then brought friends over who f'd it up to another degree and then I end up paying through the azz at the local indy BMW shop where I should have taken it in the first place.

TheM3nsah
12-29-2008, 03:47 PM
lol, some of those things are true, but I dont hate the car, I take each issue with a grain of salt and drive it like I love it...cause I do!!

and some of those issues are car specific

m3steve
12-30-2008, 04:03 AM
If you fixed just one of those things you'd be happier inside, I think you're just lazy.

BINGO. I went to a meet last week, and people were picking my car apart, because I had a broken fan, and my alarm horn wasn't hooked up. Did I mention that those two little things took away from a brand new paintjob, and a custom made front end. I felt great getting the car back from paint, but as stupid as it sounds, trimming and splicing the horn wiring gave me even more satisfaction.

First things First OP, give yourself some deadlines. Focus on the easier, crucial pieces. Your left kidney having play would be the last on your list.

Second, ask around your local portion of BFC to see if you can grab a couble of six packs, and get some help. Most of us up here in the Northwest would gladly (and do) go over to each others house, sometimes until late in the morning. I had a friend on BFC that spent over 40 hours detailing my car for contours with me, after I had just driven it from Minnesota. Most of us are willing to help, just make sure you return the favor for that person if you can, and make sure that you pass it forward, and tell them to do the same.

E36HB
12-30-2008, 04:41 AM
LOL @ this whole thread....


This shiz made my day so much better...

m3steve
12-30-2008, 05:15 AM
LOL @ this whole thread....


This shiz made my day so much better...
Interesting............Usually its the thought of No Pants Mondays being slowly adapted throughout the lands.

dcroghan
03-05-2009, 11:18 AM
Your car really sounds like a POS (owner fault?). I fix problems as or before they arise and therefore would NEVER end up with a disgusting list like that.

kyle242gt
03-05-2009, 11:39 AM
Way to bump a dead thread...:lol
funny read nonetheless...

Sammyzuko
03-05-2009, 12:07 PM
front bumper is sagging
rear bumper is sagging
left kidney has play
nasty sound at full steering lock
rear bumper full of dents, small hits
engine chain tensioner must be worn cause it sounds like grand-am
belts are new but sounds are driving me nuts
i got the '89 isuzu rodeo sound mod because of clutch fan
body has rust spots, acid rain corrosion, water spots
chronic E36 illness of shaky idle in cold/damp weather, revs dropping
drives straight, but i bet alignment is all over the place
front brakes are shot and squeak
snow wheels and tires annoy me, they are butt ugly
drivers side door switch has tape over so window can properly close
ah yeah how can we forget infamous glove box
everything squeaks, rattles and feels like 80's domestic
fog light is cracked
headlights are building up a nice film
3 different CELs - misfire, sec air & something. i just clear them and drive. they dont show up in cold weather. they must fear my code clearer!
salt from sweaty palms left steering wheel in chewed up state.
tires wear in bizzare patterns.
you better pull e-brake or mother will roll into something
seams don't really much - i just pretend they do
speedometer back light has dim spots at 4k and 120mph.
spare is flat. it loses air.
power steering i think has a leak. i pretend that i don't see it.
horn had surgery after cosmos cai installation. now sounds wussy.
headlight light pattern is cockeyed
2 wheels are bent, flaking and losing air have scratches and look shittythere is more, but too tired and frustrated to think now. this piece of trash was designed in 1990/91 before its release in '92. thats 18 years ago. it is OLD. NO IT DOES NOT HANDLE GOOD. i got suspension overhauled with bushings and it doesn't matter. still drives like shit. it is OLD. design is 20 years old. e90 325 without sports package will outhandle it. the only thing handling disguise going for is it lack of weight in comparison to newer cars. of course, thats at the expense of safety.

i had a rental car- mazda 6, 4 cyl, auto. no, this is not that hopped up turbo version. rental had amazing handling. damping and ride was exponentially better than 20 year old e36. so in retrospect lets stop living in car&driver article world where f355 and nsx don't compare. want to talk power? new camry and accord have more power. no, power per liter doesn't mean shit. no you are not faster than 350z. no you are not faster than g35. keep living in that dream. go read god damn kill forums some feed yourself with bull.shit.

in fact i'm tired of old cars. i don't even want e46. thats designed in mid to late 90s. again, 10 year old design. its all trash. as my father said it...best car is the new car.

sell e36 and buy e90 330i that doesn't squeak, rattle and feel like crap. im never getting pussy in this car the way it drives and feels. i might as well get a comfy buick le sabre. have more chance with it.

Ahahhaahahaaa....this thread always makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Neglect a 15yr old performance car and expect it to look and run like it's straight off the showroom floor = :biglaughb

chandlerseattle
03-05-2009, 12:10 PM
Gawd damn this is an old thread. But a good one.

318drivour
03-05-2009, 12:52 PM
I guess someone didn't get laid.

mikese36m
03-05-2009, 01:36 PM
LOL I guess people expect their cars to run forever with no help from the owners. I have two E36's and they are both very good to me and thats BECAUSE i am very good to them. I maintain them and could not be happier. I have a Daily Driver that is a 325i with 174k on it and it is in awesome shape. Too bad some people just don't know how to appreciate what they have and don't take the time to respect the car that carries their ass all over town.

m3luckyoo
03-05-2009, 01:44 PM
Your making the E36 sound like a complete POS, and its not nearly as bad as you think. You my friend just got a black sheep E36, it was not taken care of in its life on the road, and thats why your car specifically is a POS.

I have said it before and I will say it again, before you buy your E36, GET A PPI and look for one that hasn't been molested. Thats the only way you wont end up like this guy over here.

Oh and btw, 2/3 of the "problems" your car has, I can take care of in one saturday. I have zero sympathy for you, infact I have more sympathy for the car because it ended up with an owner like you, and the previouse owner probably wasn't too great either.

I cant believe some of the things you listed, shame :(

+1

haromaster
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
"seems like you just have a POS that was never maintained. "

like this:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z20/SCOTTMARIA/s781258853_258587_7995-1.jpg

dcroghan
03-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Way to bump a dead thread...:lol
funny read nonetheless...

It WAS dead. Now we can enjoy it again.

digitalsolo
03-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Hmm, let's see my car had:

Sagging rear bumper <- fixed it
Slight surface rust on trunk lid <- fixed it
Crappy lighting <- fixed it
Shot suspension <- fixed it
Bent wheels <- fixed it
Weak Top <- fixed it
Missing interior panels <- fixed it
Blown speakers <- fixed it
Sagging glovebox <- fixed it
Bad idle <- fixed it
SES light <- fixed it
Misfire <- fixed it
God awful ride height <- fixed it
Bad wheel bearings <- fixed it
Rattling door panels <- fixed it
Leaking power steering fluid <- fixed it
Bad window regulator clips <- new ones en route
Bad driveshaft center bearing <- new ones en route

Minus the vibration from the driveshaft bearing and the annoying window clips (which will be fixed this weekend) the car drives great. The handling is crisp, the car is rattle free and the power/milage is great. Plus it's sharp looking and fun to cruise with the top down. Really the only downside to an older car is the power; ~200 HP stock was good in 1996, not so much in 2009. That can always be resolved though. ;)

xplosiveg06
03-05-2009, 03:22 PM
alot of the shit on your list are easy fixes. just go take care of the problems if they bother you soo much. nothing is gonna happen just sitting on your ass whining about it on the forums lol

Hoad
03-05-2009, 04:06 PM
I believe it's a joke peoples. Like the thread on audiworld (or some honda forum) about the guy who put sand into the intake of a running engine to "port and polish" the head. That thread was epic. :lol3

Monky
03-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Yeah I think it was as well :lol3

Either that or he has OCD or smokes too much dope, or both.

Jrdeamicis
03-05-2009, 06:10 PM
I drove the shit out of my m3. And when I could not afford to fix the car to the way I would properly want it.

I parted it out.

And I smiled everyday I drove that car until the day I took it apart. Even with its problems. I still loved owning it everyday.

Monky
03-05-2009, 06:13 PM
And I smiled everyday I drove that car until the day I took it apart. Even with its problems. I still loved owning it everyday.


http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-019.gif

LuxoM3
03-05-2009, 06:18 PM
Can you hear the word that are coming out of my mouf?

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2008/04/jackie-chan-chris-tucker.jpg

Jrdeamicis
03-06-2009, 06:14 PM
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/musik/music-smiley-019.gif

You are a terrible musician. Your elbow position is wretched.

mbimmoor
03-06-2009, 06:25 PM
haha the original post is hilarious. Sounds like a true car enthusiast.

Good luck with your new E90 lol..