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technosedan
12-05-2007, 03:16 PM
My car is at the dealer for a trans repair and i figured while its out of the car i should have them do the clutch since its under warranty and all labor for the other problem is taken care of by them. All i have to do is buy the clutch since its out on the ground already. Should i replace the flywheel as well? Should i get the stock stuff or go with the dinan since those are probably the only two that they would use. The dealer usually doesnt put on aftermarket parts. But dinan is an exception. Does the dinan lightweight flywheel chatter?? Will it be much of a difference? The car has 90,000 miles on it.

CABimmer
12-05-2007, 03:20 PM
I wouldnt bother. For the money it doesnt do much. Im sure those that have dropped $1500 on a ltw wheel and cluthc will moan and groan about how great it is, but I think its a waste on anything other than a track car. (Butt dynos dont work) Stock clutch and disk are fine for street and track applications

Johno
12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
I agree with CA Bimmer.

LTW flywheel is popular, but I don't see an advantage for street use.

Your experience may vary.

vinnymac
12-05-2007, 03:26 PM
It's probably not worth it for a street car and the added noise (chatter) may be annoying enough for you to regret the decision.

If you track the car...then by all means. :)

giterdone
12-05-2007, 03:31 PM
All LTW FLywheels will create gear chatter. You can do things to lessen the sound, and sometimes the same exact set up can chatter more on one vehicle than another. But they all cause gear chatter. You are reducing them to less than 50% of the weight of a stock flywheel, just not enough mass to absorb the rattle.

I have a LTW Flywheel. I noticed a difference, the throttle was a bit more responsive, but nothing major. I like it, but it isn't a mod I would scream FTW after, and I wouldn't say everyone needs to go get one. It also is easier to stall upon take off.

bluemoon2222
12-05-2007, 03:38 PM
LTW should improve revability, but depending on what your goals are that may not be neccesary or helpful.

Im going with a LTW wheel since they are cheaper and easier to get than the OEM DMF.

SKooT1027
12-05-2007, 03:44 PM
It will chatter, they all do

Im going to take a stand against the last few posters, and that is bc I have the UUC Stage II setup in my car and I love it, and the car is never tracked. I still find the car to rev slower than I would like honestly. My last car (the pcar) had a much more fun flywheel, and it was stock. It would feel like it would rev up and down in an instant. The stock M3 flywheel I found very heavy and boring to drive. The 8.5lb one with the CDV delete made it better, but not as fun as the pcar.

Basically it will rev a little quicker, and drop a little faster. It should help acceleration a bit, but nothing huge. If you are going to change the parts, I would say go for the lightweight. But, it isnt something I would say to do if your clutch isnt alreayd failing.

I like it a lot more, and the car is much more fun. But again, I found the stock M3 clutch very heavy and slow. I really wish the pedal and flywheel was still lighter and quicker

E36M34life
12-05-2007, 03:51 PM
Like everyone said, it all depends on what your plans are with the car and how "street-able" you want it to be.

With the LTW flywheel, your going to get better throttle response, your engine will rev faster and easier, and your car will FEEL faster, it wont necassarily BE faster.

On the downside, your going to have super annoying chatter upon idle, you will never fully get rid of it, only quiet it. Also, your going to have to get used to the clutch again because it will be alot easier to stall the car from takeoff.

I think you should really think hard about this, because if you get the LTW and your not going to like it, you will regret it sooo bad because it will cause you to lose money for both an OEM flywheel, and the labor to swap it out.

Good luck with your decision!

TheM3nsah
12-05-2007, 03:52 PM
umm a little OT but how do u have a warranty?

E36M34life
12-05-2007, 03:56 PM
It will chatter, they all do

Im going to take a stand against the last few posters, and that is bc I have the UUC Stage II setup in my car and I love it, and the car is never tracked. I still find the car to rev slower than I would like honestly. My last car (the pcar) had a much more fun flywheel, and it was stock. It would feel like it would rev up and down in an instant. The stock M3 flywheel I found very heavy and boring to drive. The 8.5lb one with the CDV delete made it better, but not as fun as the pcar.

Basically it will rev a little quicker, and drop a little faster. It should help acceleration a bit, but nothing huge. If you are going to change the parts, I would say go for the lightweight. But, it isnt something I would say to do if your clutch isnt alreayd failing.

I like it a lot more, and the car is much more fun. But again, I found the stock M3 clutch very heavy and slow. I really wish the pedal and flywheel was still lighter and quicker

Im going to say one more thing.

One thing I will tell you for sure, is that the M3 will be ALOT more funner to drive. You will definitely feel a difference, the motor will just feel more "alive" and more "rev-happy".

BUT.............

That is if you are able to look past the quirks of having it.

I have to agree though, the stock M3 flywheel is quite heavy, and if you ever drive an E36 M3 with a LTW and then drive one with an OEM, you will feel a tremendous difference and you WILL prefer the ltw because its that much more fun.

technosedan
12-05-2007, 04:18 PM
umm a little OT but how do u have a warranty?
I bought the warranty when i got the car 2 years ago.

SKooT1027
12-05-2007, 04:21 PM
Im going to say one more thing.

One thing I will tell you for sure, is that the M3 will be ALOT more funner to drive. You will definitely feel a difference, the motor will just feel more "alive" and more "rev-happy".

BUT.............

That is if you are able to look past the quirks of having it.

I have to agree though, the stock M3 flywheel is quite heavy, and if you ever drive an E36 M3 with a LTW and then drive one with an OEM, you will feel a tremendous difference and you WILL prefer the ltw because its that much more fun.


Yeah .. when buying my M3 I tried one or two with the lightweight flywheel, and the noise turned me off. I didnt notice a different in feeling bc it was not around the same time I was testing the others.

There is a noticable difference, but do the CDV delete if you do the lightweight setup. The pedal will be very light at first, but it will get heavier as you drive. I wish it stayed a little lighter than mine did, but its still much lighter than the stock.

It really is more fun to drive, and if you are decent at driving stick you should not have a problem. You will prob stall out a couple times while it's new, but after that it's not hard. Id say only thing thats tougher are hills, but thats bc it drops revs faster and the cdv isnt assisting anymore.

It was a good point mentioned above though to make sure you want it. It will be expensive if you change your mind. And, if you do go for it, give it time. Dont judge it after a day or two, these take a solid 1k miles or more to break in. Mine prob took closer to 1.5-2. Maybe find some guys on here that live local and ask to try their cars if they have the lightweight setup.