I Almost Forgot Who Great Klasse AIO Is...

[Ryan328i]

Well I'm sad to say it but my car has been neglected for a while. I finally got the chance to give it a good once over yesterday and it came out great. I really wish I took before and after pictures because the before as pretty bad. Anyways I started with my normal routine. I had a bunch of scratches still from last winter. I went to work on those with the Porter Cable after washing. I also clayed a couple areas (not the whole car) where I had some road grime, tar, etc. After all the repair work I took out the Klasse All-In-One. It's such as easy product to use and I hadn't used it in so long. So...I went crazy with it. I went over the whole car with the AIO and Porter Cable. It really brought back a nice shine that I missed. After doing the body panels I took it to the windows. While doing my side windows i touched the B pillar trim and noticed that it cleaned that up nice also. Of course I had to give that a shot too and I was amazed and what a quick buff did to the trim. No need to any sort of trim detailer the AIO brought back a nice black shine. I proceeded to do the rest of my windows and trim with great success. All of you with E36's should know of all the black trim areas around the windows, rear view mirrors, door moldings, etc. They all look greatt now.

Anyways, I figured I'd share my success with those who already use AIO or are thinking about trying it in the future. I followed it up with some SG since winter is just around the corner. The protection is great but man it's still tough to use. I put it on so thin and do one panel at a time and it's still a bear to buff off. I finished the car late last night and so I was working under lights, well this morning I realized I missed some spots, grrr. So I'm going to have to hit it with the QD after work and clean it up. All in all it was a long day but the car looks better than it has in months.

[nickdeck]

Know what you mean about the SG. Seems like I always find a bunch of spots that I missed buffing off. The AIO is great stuff, though.

[Petrucci]

Post some after pics dude. I love how it looks in your sig.

[Steve530]

I've been using Klasse AIO and SG for about 3 years. I really like the stuff. As you wrote, the AIO is easy to use and leaves a really nice surface. The SG is a bit harder to use. From what I've read, some people like to use the Jeff's Werkstatt Acrylic Jett over AIO because it's easier to remove.

Anyway, here's a few unsolicited tips for using Klasse SG. I've read some of these on detailing boards, and some are my own preferences.

1. I use the WOWO method. Apply a thin layer and wipe off immediately. This is from David's "Detailing 101" thread.

2. I've noticed that the SG sometimes goes on in ridges. That is, the applicator leaves SG in lines because I use a single pass in the direction that sir flows over the panel. To minimixe this I get the applicator with the finest nap I can find. My observations and preference.

3. To further minimize the ridges, I always start with a damp pad. You can use QD or water to moisten the pad so that it is just damp. I perfer to use a mixture of SG and water (1:4) to spray the pad. I think this makes for a more even layer of SG. I got this from David's sticky thread and my observations.

4. After the SG dries for a few hours, I go back over it with a clean towel. Sort of buffing the SG. It should be almost effortless. If the towel drags in an area, I know that I didn't get the SG removed well in that area. So I rub that area until there is no drag. I actually use a suede MF cloth for this step. My preference.

5. I apply at least 3 layers of SG. The second layer is to assure complete coverage. The third layer is just to bring up the shine. My preference.

6. Between layers I apply either Sonus Acrylic Glanz or a 1:4 mixture of SG and water. I do this about an hour before I start on the next layer of SG. This makes the surface really slick, so the next layer of SG goes on and comes off easily. This was suggest in a thread on a detailing forum, but I use it every time because it works.

This Winter, I intend to use the 4:1 water:SG mixture to bring up the shine after I wash the car.

Anyone have any other tips?

[connorb850]

I use AIO on paint and wheels, but never thought to use it on the window and mirror trim. Thanks for that tip, I will have to try it.

[Steve530]

I use AIO on paint and wheels, but never thought to use it on the window and mirror trim. Thanks for that tip, I will have to try it.

BTW, AIO is great on glass, but DO NOT use SG on the windows. I learned the hard way. :)

[Ryan328i]

I gave the car a good wipe down again today to get off any SG that was left on there. I always do the thin layer, WOWO method and it's still difficult. I guess it's just the way SG is.

I'd like to do another layer or two but I like to give some time in between. It almost seems as if SG takes a while to really "cure."

[Treepusher]

Personal observation--I've had the best luck with SG when the temperature is cool--close to fifty degrees, rather than warmer temps. Seems to come off easier.

My favorite use, tho, is for the wheels. Makes a snap out of washing off brake dust. AIO first, then three layers of SG. Usually do this when summer/winter wheels are taken off for the season, prep them before I store them. Much easier than trying to get them done while on the car.

[Steve530]

I gave the car a good wipe down again today to get off any SG that was left on there. I always do the thin layer, WOWO method and it's still difficult. I guess it's just the way SG is.

I'd like to do another layer or two but I like to give some time in between. It almost seems as if SG takes a while to really "cure."

Sorry you have trouble.

You might try applying SG to a smaller area and wiping it off right away. I'm talking 30 seconds here. It's not going to be as easy to remove as S100, but it should come off with little effort.

I have a theory about the WOWO method. I think that the towel spreads the SG around and remove all but the SG that has already bonded to the surface. I've never heard another explanation. Anyway, it works for me.

If you apply really thin layer, it can be difficult to see. Some people breathe on the surface to see where the SG is. The moisture in your breath will cling to the SG and make it visible.

Another thing you can try is to apply the SG perpendicular to the air flow and wipe it off with the air flow. In other words, wipe it on in one direction and wipe it off at a 90 degree angle to the direction which you applied it.

And, yes, the SG takes a while to cure. I think that 24 hours is enough, but you might be able to push it to 18 hours between layers. If I push it hard and start early Friday evening, I can get 3 layers on during a weekend. But that's about as hard as I can push it.

BTW, some people apply SG and wait 24 hours to remove it. They claim the excess SG comes off easily after 24 hours. I tried it once and it didn't work for me. I had to use Sonus Arcylic Glanz and a whole lot of elbow grease to remove it.

[Ryan328i]

If you apply really thin layer, it can be difficult to see. Some people breathe on the surface to see where the SG is. The moisture in your breath will cling to the SG and make it visible.



I've noticed this. I do apply it thin enough that it is hard to see. Without letting it sit that also means that it's hard to see when you're wiping it off. I was driving last night and it was very foggy out. When I got home I noticed all the moisture on my car and you could see where the SG was. I did spray it down with QD and try to wipe it off the other day and there still is some left I think.

Has anyone tried using a MF bonnet on the PC and using that to remove it? It seems like it could be more effective and less tiring.