View Full Version : Keep missing 3rd!!!
giantrobot9000
10-18-2007, 01:41 PM
Maybe I just can't drive or something, but today I was running through the gears and botched the 2-3 shift. This is the third time in a week. I'm not going into another gear or anything (thank God!), I just let off in neutral as soon as I feel it not go into gear,but I guess I'm not pushing into gear hard enough or something.
The car has a short-shift on it, which might not be helping matters. I just had it looked over by a reputable BMW specialist (Voit Rich...it's his old car,actually), and he said the tranny mounts were fine.
Am I just being a girly man and not shifting hard enough? I have no problem except when I'm shifting at or near redline. None of my other cars give me any problem like this.
Dispatch20
10-18-2007, 01:44 PM
Maybe I just can't drive or something, but today I was running through the gears and botched the 2-3 shift. This is the third time in a week. I'm not going into another gear or anything (thank God!), I just let off in neutral as soon as I feel it not go into gear,but I guess I'm not pushing into gear hard enough or something.
The car has a short-shift on it, which might not be helping matters. I just had it looked over by a reputable BMW specialist (Voit Rich...it's his old car,actually), and he said the tranny mounts were fine.
Am I just being a girly man and not shifting hard enough? I have no problem except when I'm shifting at or near redline. None of my other cars give me any problem like this.
I botch the 2-3 shift ALL the time when shifting at redline in 2nd. I have short shift kit, and all new bushings.
I suspect my tranny is getting a little worn and doesn't like the thicker "anti rattle UUC mix" fluid I have in there now. I may switch back to a thinner tranny fluid to see if it synchronizes faster.
At the drag strip on 3 out of 5 runs I hit 5th instead of 3rd, and 3rd just didn't want to get in there. It sucks getting into 5th, then going back into 3rd on a drag run. I ran 15.0's doing that :-(
Julz69
10-18-2007, 02:47 PM
Flip your hand upside down and throw it into gear. The only direction it can go is into 3rd gear.
Flip your hand upside down and throw it into gear. The only direction it can go is into 3rd gear.
+1 on this.
Also make sure your clutch is ALL THE WAY IN! I know that at least my clutch is touchy about this, especially going into 3rd.
captainkev
10-18-2007, 03:16 PM
Backhand shifting is a must. Helps prevent the $$$ shift as well.
nick325xit 5spd
10-18-2007, 03:19 PM
Short shift kits make mis-shifting easier.
The increase in shifting effort required forces you to push harder, which decreases your control. Since you're ALSO aiming for a smaller target, it's that much easier to miss a shift.
Some SSKs don't quite have their geometry right, either. This leads to fun times when you're trying to shift hard.
Net-net, if you have a hard time shifting the car, go back to stock.
Novacaine
10-18-2007, 03:27 PM
Is it just some notchiness that gets worse at a redline shift? I have that, but I just throw it hard and be conscious about it so I don't let out the clutch too early. And yes proper shifting technique is key, I'm glad I learned that way from the very start.
Pat533i
10-18-2007, 03:41 PM
ya ive done it a couple time when trying to shift fast, my old 533i did it to.
nick325xit 5spd
10-18-2007, 04:08 PM
Is it just some notchiness that gets worse at a redline shift? I have that, but I just throw it hard and be conscious about it so I don't let out the clutch too early. And yes proper shifting technique is key, I'm glad I learned that way from the very start.
Of course proper shifting technique doesn't actually include "throwing it hard."
MoeMuny
10-18-2007, 04:51 PM
Short shift kits make mis-shifting easier.
The increase in shifting effort required forces you to push harder, which decreases your control. Since you're ALSO aiming for a smaller target, it's that much easier to miss a shift.
Some SSKs don't quite have their geometry right, either. This leads to fun times when you're trying to shift hard.
Net-net, if you have a hard time shifting the car, go back to stock.
or try a different SSK, I started with the B&M ssk and it was crap third gear was very hard to hit... I am now using the the UUC EVO3 and it is very good...
TC535i
10-18-2007, 05:03 PM
Interesting... my car does this, and I just figured out the other day that it really only does it if I've shifted into 5th... and I think engaging reverse helps.
My car needs some serious maintenance, so we'll see what it does after I rebuild the shift assembly and put some red mounts on.
Novacaine
10-18-2007, 05:06 PM
hahaha, yes yes, I know. I'm just saying I move it faster and push a little harder than if I was going for a lazy cruise around town.
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