Gorilla Wheel Locks - I'd like a rough show of hands

[umnitza]

I'm trying to organize a special for Gorilla wheel locks.

Would like to see a show of hands...

Also, have the following questions:

1) Are e36 bolts the same as those used for E46 wheels?
2) Are other models the same? Hard to imagine that BMW would spend money on the bolts for different cars.
3) What would be a good price for me to shoot for?

I'm thinking something like $30-40 for wheel locks.

[Stylin]

what kind of lock is it..? Like I had the Mcguard locks with the swirl pattern. But they suck coz the key would always warp if the locks are on too tight. So i took them off for good.

[umnitza]

This is an individualized lock.

Each key has a serial code. I'll post pics in a bit.

[DesmoBob]

Originally posted by Stylin
what kind of lock is it..?

i believe they are similar to the bavauto style (exterior spline grooves). they are a handsome lot.

gorilla catalog (big BIG pdf): http://www.gorilla-auto.com/pdfs/catalog.pdf

(edit)
(around page 28 in the catalog)

[DesmoBob]

hmm after thumbing through the catalog, it seems they only have the lug nut style, not the bolt style. :dunno

(edit)
doh, n/m, i missed it on the bottom of p. 13

[umnitza]

I have edited the catalog down, I'll post excerpts from it.

[ihooklow]

Me, me, me. I'm in. Of course you knew that though.

- Mg

[EvilM3]

I would be interested to get a set for the E46 M3.

[umnitza]

here we go

[clor0x]

Count me in for a set for an e36 coupe. Let me know which size I need and such...

[IgotMy18s]

i have these locks.. There great locks... I lost my key before and it was easy contacting there customer serivce and told them my serial number and sent me a new key for 5 bucks.

[Stylin]

im trying to figure out if i need locks.. the last one gave me a headache u wouldnt believe when it froze and noone could get it out. I spend 3 days drilling it out with a kit I had to borrow from MacGuard. Then theyre keys are so weak I warped them recently again. :mad: coz of their stupid swirl pattern.. Mcguard locks.. save urself the headache.. these Gorilla locks look much safer. But for me.. the car is never left outside and theres noone fitting a left under the car.. so do I need a set... I guess it depends on what papa Matt can do.

[DesmoBob]

i don't know the logistics of this, but would it be difficult to have an option to include an extra key with the order? that is, to have one concealed in the car in case i need to use the spare tire, and the other one in the tool box in the garage. i suppose it'd be just as easy to order a spare once the package arrives, but i thought i'd ask anyway. ;)

COUNT ME IN if the price is below $40 and it can handle the torque. (i.e., i am ignorant of locks, would they be able to handle the 75-80 ft-lb of torque without deforming the key pattern?) :love1

[umnitza]

I'm sure it would:)

[M3formeM3foryou]

one set for me please.

e36 if it matters.

[Ryan325i]

E36 Hand Up - if the price is right.

[DesmoBob]

oops, forgot to mention, E36 here too, if it matters (m3). :love1
Count me in if price < $40

[CrzyLiki]

I might be interested in a set. But I need them about 5mm longer than stock E36M3 length.

[DesmoBob]

ack :95

i realized something. will the cone seat bolt shape fit ssr gt3 wheels? i do not know because they are in transit at this time. i ask this because they are sending new bolts with the wheels, which leads me to wonder if this is because the stock cone seat bolts won't fit. :dunno

[Kenshiro]

One set E36 for me too

[umnitza]

Excellent news so far.
I can probably get them for $30 + shipping to your door.
But we'll need 20-30 sets, 50 folks are $27+shipping.

All the bolts are custom built at this point - so it's about 2-3 weeks.

[88bimmer]

E36 M3 for me if <$40

[tasty]

I'll probably be in also. Still waiting for my wheels from Howitt group buy. E36 if it matters and I'm not sure if the wheels will matter. Definately put me on the list for now because I'll want new bolts with my new wheels. One question: is this one per wheel? I've been planning onreplacing them all.

[umnitza]

1 per wheel.

[C///M]

Count me in for a set. E36 M3 with OEM M3 LTW wheels.

If it matters, probably with black cover to match the stock bolts. Unless someone can point me to a good place to get a set of silver/chrome lugbolts for a reasonable amount of money...

[clor0x]

Umnitza: Once you get 20 replies for bolts, will you start accepting orders? My wheels are coming in 2 weeks and I am going to need a set ASAP. Let me know, thanks!

[umnitza]

I understand. I am going to meet with this guy - happens to be 2 blocks from me (figuratively) tomorrow.

I'll show him my bolts. He'll tell me if they work or not.
Then, I'll start simply taking orders once I post pics of the bolts.

[clor0x]

Sounds good, thanks!


Originally posted by umnitza
I understand. I am going to meet with this guy - happens to be 2 blocks from me (figuratively) tomorrow.

I'll show him my bolts. He'll tell me if they work or not.
Then, I'll start simply taking orders once I post pics of the bolts.

[BzAlwayzLit]

count me in for a set too....
justin

[mace]

Count me in Matt for E36 M3 1 set.

[clor0x]

Any word on the locks yet?

[umnitza]

Seeing them today. 5pm. Will post:)

[318ti - Fred]

I'm interested in this buy as well. However I have a question.

I have 5mm spacers on the front wheels now to deal with my PSS-9 kit. So I'm currently using longer bolts in the front then the on the back. Can we get a mixed sized set, or does anyone know if I can use longer then OEM bolts on my rear wheels if I'm not using spacers?

[umnitza]

I think we can find all the necessary info for you and get different length bolts as well.

I'll get it done on Monday. I just ran out of time on Friday.

[clor0x]

Any more news on these locks? When can we place an order :D

[umnitza]

:lol: I knew you'd ask:D

No, I've not forgotten. I'm hoping to get the final info squared away tomorrow.

[umnitza]

Ok more details are alive and well.

The bolts LOOK GREAT!!!!
They have a chrome top but can be ordered with any finish custom.

However, I have to order them in quantities of 30 sets for a specific finish.

So, we all have to decide that we will get a polished bolt or a stainless steel bolt.

Currently, the price sits @ 35 + shipping for the locks. With 50 orders, I can do $30.

They come in standard length (I measured it with my own bolt).

LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE. The BOLT at the top 17179 is standard length.

We can get ALL the other lengths as well.

I'll be setting up a pay to account but I need a show of hands of who is in now that prices and specific setups are known.

I saw these in person and here's what you get:

4 LOCKING BOLTS (you can keep your existing ones)
1 Key.

If you want matching bolts that go along with the locks they are $2.25 each.

But I need to know in advance.

[tasty]

I'm OK with either finish but I think I prefer the stainless because it would probably match the hypersilver dark wheels I'm getting. So another $36 for 16 matching bolts? Is that worth it because I haven't priced them out yet. I'm interested in the package deal I guess.

[clor0x]

Put me down for 1 set for an e36 coupe. Let me know when I can pay because I need these ASAP.

[C///M]

I'm in for either finish, and I'd like to get the matching lugbolts, too.

Standard length is fine, since I'm running M Doublespoke II's for the winter and M Doublespoke Forged for the summer, and I don't plan on a bbk in the near future...

[clor0x]

By the way, will it be possible to get an extra lock so that I can keep one in the car and one at home?

[umnitza]

Do you mean key?

[clor0x]

Yes I meant key, my bad :stickoutt



Originally posted by umnitza
Do you mean key?

[DesmoBob]

Count me in for one set, E36 M3. I prefer stainless, BUT I can live with either finish, whichever will get us the deal faster. :)

I will need two standard length and two 5mm longer to match my 5mm spacers.

I don't need matching lugbolts.

I am also curious about what clor0x asked, about getting a spare key.

[CrzyLiki]

Count me in for silver finish. i need them 5mm longer for all fours.

[318ti - Fred]

Count me in if I can get them 5mm longer (17015?) then standard and in the stainless finish.

What's the price on an extra key?

[umnitza]

I can get those.
I'm going to open up payment on Friday.

What I will do is create a spot on my site where you will go and click to purchase.
I'll provide the link here tomorrow.

[M3formeM3foryou]

One set of stainless finish, normal length, no matching lugs. One spare key.

[umnitza]

don't know about spare locks - those might be $10 or more:(

[M3formeM3foryou]

Originally posted by umnitza
don't know about spare locks - those might be $10 or more:(

i would actually rather have a spare key. as IgotMy18s posted, his replacement key cost $5. if it's anywhere near that, it would still be worth it to me.

thanks for all the work Matt.

~steve

[umnitza]

Before we all get happy, I'm doing more research. I hope to be able to lower the price. Something seems high on these.

[97 MPWR]

Matt,

Count me in for this group buy.

I have to get some more info on my new wheels though.

[ayton]

great locks I have a set.

[umnitza]

Ok, final details. The links are on my site located here:
CLICK THIS (http://www.umnitza.com/new/loader.html?page=locks)

We can do chrome (that's a standard look) or non-polished.

Standard or Chrome = $35 for 4 locks and a key shiped if we get 10-40 people.
Standard or Chrome = $30 for 4 locks and a key shipped if we get 50-60 people.

Inside each package that you receive, you'll have a serial number, a code - call the number - and via CC spend $8-9 for an additional key.

These locks are lifetime guaranteed.
They can be also in satin finish, aluminum brush finish, or any other finish. However, and this is the caveat.

I need a MINIMUM of 10 people to agree on a particular finish for me to order them.

As soon as I hit 20 people, I place the order.
Anticipated order placement is 2 weeks from today, with order fulfillment 1 week to 2 weeks later.

If this goes well, I'll begin holding these more frequently or have a running special on them.

These are the SAME locks as BavAuto sells.

[C///M]

How do we specify finish and if we want the matching bolts for it?

[EvilM3]

So is
E46 standard = non chrome/polished
E46 non-standard = chrome???

[umnitza]

EvilM3 - it's the reverse.
They standard nickle plate, and chrome the bolts.

non-standard would be brushed finish or something else.

Bolts are $2 a piece, so you'll need 16 of those - since they weigh about 4lbs, you'll have to add $10 for shipping. You'll have to purchase those separately - though I can supply them with this group purchase.

[DesmoBob]

Originally posted by umnitza
Ok, final details. The links are on my site located here:
CLICK THIS (http://www.umnitza.com/new/loader.html?page=locks)

Hi Matt

I'm ignorant, so bear with me. :95 :) Two questions:

1) If we choose Other, it then says "#Gorilla+Wheel+Locks+OTHERLENGHTTHREAD+Standard."
I will need mixed lengths (two regular length, two 5mm longer). Since it doesn't give us a list of choices, will there be a textbox during checkout where we specify exactly what lengths and finish we need?

2) I understand the part about minimum of 10 people for a particualr finish. But does that also apply to mixed length sets--if there aren't 10 people ordering mixed length sets, then we be limited to only buying regular length sets?

Thanks

[umnitza]

ironically, no it doesn't.

Those bolts are in stock. It's the different lengths.

O and thanks for pointing out to me that I can't spell @ 3am;)

I hate to say it, but your order is so custom, I'm not sure if it's possible to mix and match like that. I think you'll want to get two sets one long and one short, then hope someone else wants the same setup.

I can bend, but that is too hard to do.

Also, the checkout will have a text box:D

[jww///95]

Any chance a black finish will be offered?

[umnitza]

I've had two requests already for it.
So I think it's possible. 10 people right:D

[DesmoBob]

Originally posted by umnitza
I hate to say it, but your order is so custom, I'm not sure if it's possible to mix and match like that. I think you'll want to get two sets one long and one short, then hope someone else wants the same setup.


egad. :(
two sets would also mean each person would need two keys. this is getting complicated, i think i'll cancel. :(

[jww///95]

Originally posted by umnitza
I've had two requests already for it.
So I think it's possible. 10 people right:D


Okay, i'll stay tuned to this thread... I'm definitely in for a set of standard length black locks!

[ToplessBMW3]

I'll be in on this - just the locks, no matching bolts, 1 key - I just have to find out what kind of bolts BBS takes. Does anyone know off-hand? Thanks :)

Sal

[umnitza]

ok, well, I'm still trying to haggle the price lower.

Those of you that have already paid, don't fear!!! We'll see if we can lower it further and I'll refund you the money:D

[umnitza]

I've now spoken to 4 discount tire locations here.

EACH one charges $30-45 + tax.

So, I guess the only thing that I'm offering is convenience of delivery to your door

So, that being said, if you want to get them from me, that's fine.

I just spoke to the distribution hub and I *might* get them down to $25 shipped, but for $10 bucks, it's just not worth it.

To all those that have already paid, email me if you would like a refund.

[EvilM3]

I would go for a set of blacks too.

[umnitza]

Ok, the final word is as follows:
They are ALL [EDIT: CHROME] NOT black in this initial buy, if you need longer ones, let me know before Monday.

I will pick all of them up on Wednesday and begin mailing them out.

E36 and E46 lug bolts are the same size/thread.

I think they are the same as E38s as well.

[jww///95]

Originally posted by umnitza
Ok, the final word is as follows:
They are ALL [EDIT: CHROME] NOT black in this initial buy, if you need longer ones, let me know before Monday.

I will pick all of them up on Wednesday and begin mailing them out.

E36 and E46 lug bolts are the same size/thread.

I think they are the same as E38s as well.


So what is the final price going to be with shipping? And will you set up the locks as an item on your website, or should we just paypal you the money, specifing "black wheel locks" or something similar?

thx
jeremy-

[umnitza]

I buggered UP!!!!

They are ALL CHROME. Jeremy. I think you hit "quote" as I was editing them:)

[umnitza]

$35

[jww///95]

:(

Yeah I guess I should have known better since you said a while back that black wasn't gonna work out... thanks anyway matt

[umnitza]

I received and sent ALL the locks that were part of this purchase.

They look great and are exceptional quality, unfortunately, and this isn't like me, but I couldn't even open them up to take pics, they showed up, they were packaged, and sent without a single set left over - I guess someone knows something about these locks;)

I'm getting another order in shortly, I'm already back-ordered a bit, but if you like, feel free to get in now, I'll keep track.

[///M_Wraith]

I sent you money!

[umnitza]

received

[Roffle Waffle]

I just got mine in on Friday, they look great, and very strong. Do you know if I can torque them?

[ToplessBMW3]

I just got mine in yesterday, they look very nice :)

[dave is cool]

Are the locks different lengths for staggered setups?

[umnitza]

they can be.
but not for stock OEM staggered.

Staggered like MINE are staggered where the offsets are not typical.

[mguy]

Are you still taking orders for the locks ?

[umnitza]

yes, but my supplier was supposed to have given me locks today, but no word, so most likely Tuesday.

[umnitza]

They're here;)
All that have waited, they are ON their way today and tomorrow.

[umnitza]

I have 15 sets left after the back order is filled. And well, get in now, the last sets just "disappeared" before I even got done inventorying them.

[BMW325i]

Matt - Do you have a set left? Also what is the difference between the standard and non-standard finish?

Jeffrey

[umnitza]

there is no difference:) I have "over purchased" this time.
So, luckily, I can ship 24 hours or less after purchase:D

[mguy]

Put me down for a set of locks. I've already paid through paypal.

Thanks

[umnitza]

gotcha:D

[bebedivine]

ok this girl got lazy reading all the pages, but i need a set for my e36 M3, i have 19x8.5 Hamann rims, so what do i need exactly?

[umnitza]

bebedivine - you don't need anything if your wheels hav standard openings and relatively standard offsets.

email me - info@umnitza.com

[BzAlwayzLit]

matt anymore ? I pick up .pay cash

[themadhatter]

Originally posted by bebedivine
ok this girl got lazy reading all the pages, but i need a set for my e36 M3, i have 19x8.5 Hamann rims, so what do i need exactly?


bebe, you would use the same wheel lock size as the factory bolt. your HMII's are a standard fitment.

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Matt, can you get these in stainless steel for sure? You know why I'm asking.

-Ron

[umnitza]

:lol: @ ron.

I'm told the only finish is the chrome and it's pretty sturdy now:D

Pick up is definitely easy to do. Email me your info:)

[themadhatter]

I can show you pics of my brown wheel locks when I'm back if you'd like. :)

[bebedivine]

ok how much is it for a set of gorilla wheel locks + key, and matching color lugnuts? my lugs are brown..

[themadhatter]

:lol:

hey, I told you Matt! Bebe, you want my brown wheel locks?

-Ron

[bebedivine]

what brand are they?

[themadhatter]

Gorilla - I also have a matching brown key too. :D

[bebedivine]

how much?

[themadhatter]

bebe - these are 5 year old rusted wheel locks. It's a joke between me and Matt about the new chrome and my desire for Stainless steel locks.

You're best getting a set from him since these are nothing to be excited about.

if you really want them though, wait till August when I'm back, I'll just give them to you. :)

-Ron

[umnitza]

:lol: at Ron.

Yeah, the finish on the new ones is said to be significantly better.

I mean, you can tell the difference in engineering upgrades in a 1998 M3 versus a 2003 M3;)

[mguy]

did you ship my locks out yet ?

[umnitza]

Are you R. Wilson?!?!

If you are, I've been trying to get a hold of you from the day you purchased. You left me a PO box <--- if this is the one.

I need a different address please.

[joyride]

I have a BBS RS-GT 19x8.5 35 offset and 19x9.5 40 offset on my 2002 BMW 325i sedan. What size do I need? and also can I get them in black?

[umnitza]

they only come in 1.25" and chrome - but it's a light polish finish.

If you didn't need extended bolts or shortened bolts, these will be perfect.

[umnitza]

we have inventory again.

[nbkj7xt]

I'm in for a set for my '98 e36 M3.

[umnitza]

Go ahead and go to the site and select the product and purchase, we can even ship out today.

[96m3]

I would like a set.Looks like I need 17100 in black.If you have them would it be possible to pick them up Sunday,I will be in the area?
Thanks,Martin

[umnitza]

on Sunday, I'll be in Fremont @ Ricks.
They don't come in black, only chrome.

[bebedivine]

i already purchase the wheel locks, know where i can get matching lugnuts???

[umnitza]

We can get you matching wheel lug bolts.

They are in short supply and cost about $3.50 per bolt.

[bebedivine]

so that means i would need 16 of them, correct? know of any other place i can get them cheaper? i have 19x8.5 hamann's HM2's if that helps.

[umnitza]

you will need 16 of them, correct.

We are the "cheapest" er...most inexpensive place I know of.

We buy in bulk;)

[daz95m3]

are there any still avaliable? I need a set for a e36 m3 coupe if possible

thanks Reggie

[bebedivine]

ok put me down for a set of 16 then

[umnitza]

daz, we've got lots of locks in stock.

Today we sold out of bolts.

But we'll be ordering more:) They are perhaps the hardest to find and everyone wants them. We waited 1 month for a 10 sets, and finally got them in and they were gone in 5 days.

[bebedivine]

ok just keep me updated, i have the money.

[JCz04Bimmer]

Hey!

I want to pick up a set of the Gorilla's to go on my 2004 330Ci. I'm running 17in Breyton Visions. Any insight on what I need? I'm living in a city now and really don't want to go out side to find my wheels, well, not there. Lemme know!

J

[umnitza]

All BMW locks are the same, just visit the site and they are on their way to you today.

bebe - the product will be in my hands in short order - probably next week.

[umnitza]

^

[bebedivine]

did the lugnuts come in?

[umnitza]

YES!!! They are in.
Forgot to mention that.

Two caveats:
1) They are $3 a bolt, and yes, you can order 16 total.
2) They require a key, which is $7

Shipping will be about $8.

[bebedivine]

so whats that total exactly? shipping to 08060

[umnitza]

shipping to NJ is $8
bolts are $48 (3 X 16)
Key is $7
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55 + 8 shipping.
They a wicked cool, pictures tomorrow.

[umnitza]

^