Lambo doors

[///M LIFE©]

Just curious, what is the process of converting to lambo doors. I asked my reputable body shop i would quotes $5000 for both. I think that is rediculous.
I was studing it and its just a work of latches and shocks. Little or no body work is needed. I would assume you would need to build a latch that can swivel horizontally and vertically. So the door would first pop out a bit then go upwards to clear its surrounds. It wont go up straight but kinda in a \\__// shape.
Then the shocks whatever you call them. They things that open you hood and trunk would be used to hold up the door and you are set. You may need something to push down the door from outside but thats a main issue
Here is my 2cent picture :D

[///M LIFE©]

The top edge of the door and the body will be more close together

[buttuh]

I don't think it's that simple. but you're welcome to try and let us know how it goes.

[///M LIFE©]

Yea i was hoping to get some feed back from you guys. The door would need to be cut inside a bit so that latch can go in.

[IMAGE&STYLE]

Give my bodyshop a call...Talk to BERDY (847)-741-1966, tell him your Tab's friend!

I am sure he can do it for under $1,000

I love the pic :D!!!

[Def]

You're kidding right?

I don't think E36 Coupe doors would work well with this setup AT ALL. Just how the hell will the window seal up? For that matter, how the hell are you not going to tear the window up when opening the door since it will most likely catch on the weatherstripping at the top?


There is alot more work to this than you are seeing. You have some major mechanical difficulties to work out before this will be feasible.


Not to mention the impracticality of doing something as bling-bling as this....

[NegativeCambre]

Scissor doors are a lot more trouble then they are worth. I think you're money would be speant better elsewhere... just the though of all that extra weight being added to support them makes me cringe, and the engineering dynamics of a such a feat would require a pretty intensive study.

And I don't know how good such an exotic feature on a relatively boxy car like an E36 would look.

Even though the Countach is really really REALLY boxy, its got a crazy style to it that works with the scissor doors.

Just for reference, the Delorean, which employs an even simpler set up then a scissor action door, was fraught with problems (weather seals, crappy gas shocks) that often left the owners swearing at the doors.

Just my thoughts on it... it would be interesting if you got it to work... especially all us doubters er, doubted you!

Steve

[DesmoBob]

have a look:

http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,5684,1369-1372_1232174,00.html

[AZ325Ci]

One question -- Why?

[///M LIFE©]

Originally posted by Def
You're kidding right?

I don't think E36 Coupe doors would work well with this setup AT ALL. Just how the hell will the window seal up? For that matter, how the hell are you not going to tear the window up when opening the door since it will most likely catch on the weatherstripping at the top?


There is alot more work to this than you are seeing. You have some major mechanical difficulties to work out before this will be feasible.


Not to mention the impracticality of doing something as bling-bling as this....

To seal the door, it will open normally as it would about 4-5 inches, like i said before, then go up.

The picture in the link is not what i am looking for.

[v.b.]

do something like this instead...

http://www.hondastyle.com/articles/images/FlipTrunk/TrunkExample.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/vtecpower6/trunk2.jpg
http://www.members.aol.com/vtecpower6/trunk8.jpg
http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_9e175b801b9e5212282e43f2e9bf6ab6/i-1.JPG
http://www.members.aol.com/vtecpower6/trunk10.jpg
http://www.sfu.ca/~lhlai/rice.jpg

[v.b.]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2408063772&category=33642

http://www.monstergraphix.com/ebay/lambo.JPG

[v.b.]

http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_74698e6c386655ae55d18d5e07e47481/i-1.JPG
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_74698e6c386655ae55d18d5e07e47481/i-2.JPG
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_74698e6c386655ae55d18d5e07e47481/i-3.JPG
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_74698e6c386655ae55d18d5e07e47481/i-4.JPG

[///M LIFE©]

Those trunk pics are gay. It was just a thought, havent seen one on an e-36 bmw. Looking at the pics it doesnt look too promising

[99m3 steve]

do it

[///M LIFE©]

If i do it , it will look like the eclipse in the second pic

[dave is cool]

That trunk thing looks pretty cool

[Kramer]

http://www.geocities.com/mhenry_au/BMW_M3_Laguna_Seca_II.html

[v.b.]

Originally posted by Kramer
http://www.geocities.com/mhenry_au/BMW_M3_Laguna_Seca_II.html

you can't open the door if there is car parked right beside you...

[M-crazy]

I don't know it dosen't seem that hard to do.

http://www.autoguide.ee/gallery/bmw/hamann-laguna-seca2/06.jpghttp://www.autoguide.ee/gallery/bmw/hamann-laguna-seca2/08.jpghttp://www.autoguide.ee/gallery/bmw/hamann-laguna-seca2/07.jpg

[Whatup1049]

LOL no offense, I dont get how the hell that picture you drew would work? First those pressurized piston things are sticking into the door horizontally? How would that work? The door could only pivot down maybe another 30 degrees before the piston is fully compressed.

Heres a pic of lambo doors I found:

http://www.statikdesign.com/scratchbuilt/images/doors/lambocloseLG.jpg

In the picture it looks like the piston thing is flipped the other way you have it (rotate the pistons in your drawing 180 degrees) and then it's mounted into the door. Also in the pic the doors "hinge" is almost like a universal joint but specially fabricated to fit in the door. It has to be able to move both up and down and side to side. I would assume then you would angle the piston thing so that it would push it out on an angle....

[///M LIFE©]

I kinda like the gull wing idea rather then the lambo.
The picture is JUST an illustration to know what I am talking about. It would need to be measured up properly and balanced out.
The gullwing idea seems more easier to do. I will talk to my body shop and see what they think of it.

[Rook]

One thing to keep in mind is the way your door latches, I'm not sure if you can rotate the latch mechanism on the door and still have your door handle work from the outside to open it up. Also, the door handles on an E36 already are a weak point on the car I imagine that if you're trying to lift up your door with them that you'll only hasten their death.

[nixbimmr]

def keep us updated on how it turns out

[Leemos]

Lets see, AT LEAST two thousand dollars for useless doors, or two thousand dollars towards AA's turbocharger or new supercharger kit. I know which I'd pick.

[///M LIFE©]

Originally posted by Leemos
Lets see, AT LEAST two thousand dollars for useless doors, or two thousand dollars towards AA's turbocharger or new supercharger kit. I know which I'd pick.

I dont want a SC

and i can get it done for around $900 :stickoutt

[gato]

Do you use your car as a daily driver? If you do, then don't do it. It would suck to be parked in, or always having to go through the annoying process of closing your door. Plus, the parts would probably wear out fast.

[coleco]

there is still a lot to be said for the designs of doors. i really dont like the concept of the door opening out from the side of my car. and by this i mean the current "swing out" stock style. "swing out" means dings. gullwing doors also swing out and thus creat problems. Lambo doors are probably the most innovative of our times. they have a combined small "swing out" with some "swing up" .

Regardless of opinion i think all of us would like better space conserving methods of moving the door for exit of the vehicle.

I think with some effort you could come up with something completely origional. Maybe somehow the door could pop out a little bit like a gullwing but then have hinges like a flip flop trunk thus moving the door straight up in its origional position. in such a design you would have to have parts visible in the interior from the outside. it would be more of a show car thing.

everyone is still in the "box" money is no obstacle worth worrying about on the path to satisfaction.

[Stylin]

they sell a universal kit for lambo doors.. my neighbor with an E46 325 is doing it soon. I believe the kit itself is $1500.

[///M LIFE©]

You dont need a 'kit' its just a matter of hindges and compressor, and putting them together right.

[Fireaxe]

to much work and not enough gain fo rdoing i t,i think.
Your better off puttin more mods in the car i.e. engine suspension
,stero etc. But if your dead on u want it done GL.

[///M LIFE©]

Nothing is too much work for me. I spend a whole day cutting up my seats and wiring up my LCDs :D

[IMAGE&STYLE]

I back you 100% if you do this mod!!! I say go for it!

[///BHRpowered]

I haev also looked into this idea, I was quoted the exact same thing, 5k per door. you will fail safty inspection because if the car flips over you/anyone eles can't open the door. I believe lamborghini gets around this with explosive hinges and a pop out windshield. iv seen kits on ebay that advertise "great idea get a VDC today only 300 for all parts. because it just changes the hinge. however you need something very very strong in order to support the door, notto mention springs to asst with the actually opening. leave the lambo doors for lambos, its part of exoticness

[///M LIFE©]

5k per door. Damn thats alot i was quoted around 1000 for both

[EMAXX]

///M LIFE?/b>: Are you still going to do this? sounds cool. I would really love to see what it looks like.

[Daved]

///M LIFE©, this is a cool idea, go for it! It's just exotic, not a bling bling thing.

[BMW318iS]

i like how the Koenigsegg doors open up....

[Dj Waffelz]

idea-
dont make them scissor doors...
make them more of a gull wing door... so they come up and to the side at the same time...

it is VERY possible... and if u do it urself, shouldn't cost too much

you would have a VERY original car if you did that...

[BimmerMPower]

I say go for it. It would look awesome and really make your car stand out.

[extremeM3]

Just realize.. from a safety standpoint.. you're going to loose alot

If you are hit from the side... your doors will buckle and possibly not let you out to escape the car.

Realize that while yeah it will look cool as hell.... a car is still a car. And accidents do happen.... just remember that.

[///M LIFE©]

Yea that is true. I plan on doing this when I have a secondary car, and this is primarily show/race

[Franchise]

sunroof aka escape hatch!

[vapor]

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=124600

Several of the cars in this thread have it done, so to say that it is not possible to do, is not correct. To say that it is a good investment of time and money, is an individual choice!

vapor

[///AlpinePower]

blah. blah. lots of talk here.

I met some kid in MD who made his doors flip up like this. All he did (Toyota Celica) was add a hinge that would allow the door to swing forward/up and a piston to assist; the door maintained its original operation. All he had to do was open the door and give it a little push to send it skyward. There was a strap to pull it down and in if seated in the car.

It was not at all complicated, but the effect was really cool. I say you can do this yourself and for under $1000. The quotes you're getting are high because the labor is a pain in the A.

[topazbimma]

Alright here is a pic of an e46 with them....

i may tackle this option if i do major body work this winter.... but i dont know...

its very ricey... but its also very cool.... i like em....

from reading when these pics where posted... i believe that these are full functional swing out doors... like normal... but then they also gullwing up...

when he opens the door... he opens it like 4 or 5 inches to clear the window from the door and clear eveything and then they raise up...

the way that hamman does it... to me is actualy the easy way... the just piano hinge out at that little triangle are where the mirror is mounted to... all you would have to do is reinforce that and clear out room for the shock..


http://members.roadfly.com/topazbimma/DSC00241.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/topazbimma/DSC00244.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/topazbimma/Hinge1.jpg


very simple concept.. alot more complicated when you start doin it... you better be a damn good welder....

[DK325IS]

doors

[E36 Dreamer]

This company, LSD, makes an E36 specific kit that makes every other one i've seen look like garbage. German-made, TUV approved, crash tested, cadmium plated, fully adjustable fit. A really nice kit. And it won't screw up the door sills since the doors open normally before they swing up.
Contact Miyuki Motorsports in Fresno CA for the guaranteed best pricing in the US. For the E36, the kit runs just over $1500.
Hope this helps.

[wimpwgn]

It's just embarrassing to be seen in these.

[Nadroj]

lol

[ProRail]

Give my bodyshop a call...Talk to BERDY (847)-741-1966, tell him your Tab's friend!

I am sure he can do it for under $1,000

I love the pic :D!!!

$1,000? That's amazing. I thought the $5,000 estimate was low.

[mbanks21]

Wow! This thread is over 3 years old! Lambo doors! Wow!

[Delsol]

I bought a kit from www dot cardoorconversions dot com The kit they sell is a direct bolt on with wire extenders, I found a local body shop that is only going to charge me 200 bux

[wyldbil]

Don't rice out a perfectly good BMW, please. Go get yourself a Civic for that nonsense.

[C P Squared]

is your car a lambo, if no then why bother doing it

[Citizen328ci]

Lets see, AT LEAST two thousand dollars for useless doors, or two thousand dollars towards AA's turbocharger or new supercharger kit. I know which I'd pick.

i would definately do the doors dude... i mean think about it why would anyone want more power when they could put doors that open up on their car? :shifty

[dos Santos]

Somebody needs to do this.

[Delsol]

Pic

[Bobby Newport]

also, thats the e46 m3 its a bit more streamlined than the e36.

that would be cool to do if you had a show car, but if you wanna drive your car, keep the doors the way they are.

[Motorsport]

actually the idea makes sense for tight parking, but if you are looking for looks, then rice..

[clumpymold]

Bringing it back from the dead. :stickoutt

I believe there was an E36 M3 with one. Blueish, I believe. To me, unless it goes VERTICALLY upward (and none of this out-then-up style), I think it's cool. Otherwise, you're just doing it for the looks. :dunno