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btl1990
09-29-2007, 11:46 PM
When I bought my car is was really scratched up. What can I do to help remove this or tone them down? I was thinking clay?

M0nK3y
09-30-2007, 12:26 AM
Clay will not remove scratches. Clay is used in order to remove embedded materials in the paint. You will need a paint polish or cleaner to remove scratches. I would try Meguiars ScratchX. I dunno of any other products.

Anyone?

btl1990
09-30-2007, 09:55 AM
Thanks. Should I polish then clay bar?

bimmerfiver
09-30-2007, 10:06 AM
Thanks. Should I polish then clay bar?

You should use the search feature and study up! :)

(your question is a bad question...yes, there are dumb questions, no offense).

Steve530
09-30-2007, 10:10 AM
Clay first, then polish.

AFAIK, scratch removing polishes fill the scratches with oils and other fillers.

You'll have a hard time removing scratches without some sort of mechanical polisher. If you do not have a machine, you might find it cost effective to take the car to a detailer or body shop and ask them to polish out the scratches.

Or buy a PC, pads and polishes. Then follow the guidelines posted here and other sites.

Skyline
09-30-2007, 09:32 PM
The best way to remove thes is to start out with 3000 grit sand paper then buff it really good.

btl1990
09-30-2007, 10:01 PM
I have a PC. I bought Scratch X today along with the Mothers clay bar kit. Should I also buy some sandpaper before I clay bar and polish?

simracer
10-01-2007, 12:22 AM
For heaven's sake, no, a detailing newb shouldn't even think about using sandpaper and it's reckless to even recommend it.

I'd think everyone should know that it's a best practice to start with a less aggressive approach and work your way up from there.

Try the PC and a polish first. If that doesn't work, then try the PC and a more aggressive polish or compound.

Only then, if that still doesn't work and you're aware that you could very well sand through your clear (assuming you have a clear coat), then you could try sanding after reading up on the process.

And I'd practice on a scrap panel or someone else's car before trying it on my BMW.

But I certainly wouldn't start by sanding.

btl1990
10-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Good advice. Thanks. I'll post before and after pictures.

simracer
10-01-2007, 04:36 PM
Good deal. Hope it turns out well.

By the way, is it single stage paint or clear coat?

btl1990
10-01-2007, 04:39 PM
It's the stock paint so Id say clear coat :confused?

simracer
10-01-2007, 04:49 PM
If you work a polish on the finish and end up with body color on the cloth you're using, then it's single stage. If you work a polish in and no body color on the cloth, you're working on clear.

I think I've heard that yellow e36 M3s had single stage paint, so original paint doesn't necessarily mean it's clear coated.

djminkin
10-01-2007, 08:10 PM
Yikes definitely dont use sandpaper. First clay the car to remove all the crap, then a meguairs #6, I believe, will remove most clear coat scratches, and then the new P21s concours, which is an awesome wax.. That should do it. If your car is really scratched take it to a body shop and ask their opinion, but dont sand it yourself.

btl1990
10-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Return the Meguires Scratch X?

paul e
10-03-2007, 10:45 AM
Return the Meguires Scratch X?

No, dont return it. A detailers 'toolkit' should have lots of different products for different purposes. If you work with hardware, you have more than a simple slotted screwdriver in your toobox dont you? Well its the same thing for detailing. I have maybe 6 different polishes covering all the different grades of 'cut' or abrasiveness. I also have two rubbing compounds, a couple of prewax 'cleaners', plus clay, and several different waxes. And thats just for starters!! Think of the products you use to maintain your paint as tools in a toolbox. The only way to really understand this is start searching the net... a couple of good place to start include:

http://autopia.org/forum/
http://paintcare-n-detailing.com/
http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/default.aspx

tyguysampson
10-04-2007, 12:03 AM
no good fam