View Full Version : SOS!!! how to remove rust thats not?
SterlingSilber3
09-29-2007, 10:24 AM
Okay, so I almost got in an accident and I had to slam on the brakes, went through a puddle and got super super small metal flakes on my car and they rusted. I think the metal might have been from my brakes, but my brakes have since been replaced. Rust is all over my car and need to figure out how to get it off. My camera cant focus in on it it is so small but is all over the car. Does it have to be buffed off or is there some type of cleaner that I can use?
PaintPolisher
09-29-2007, 12:31 PM
I use blue painters tape with a black arrow for the camera to focus on when shooting photo's of little things.
Have you tried clay bar on an area to remove this rust type stuff? Use lots of lube.
SterlingSilber3
09-29-2007, 12:35 PM
will try the tape. No I didnt try the clay I just got back from buying some polishing compound and a buffer. Should I go I different route first?
SterlingSilber3
09-29-2007, 12:43 PM
still a terrible photo but will post anyways. Will be up in a couple of minutes. It is hard to see from even a few feet away but up close you can see all of the rust.
TOGWT
09-29-2007, 12:46 PM
Brake dust:
Ferrous metal particles produced from the friction of train wheels and rail tracks and brake pad material (semi-metallic, carbon resins, asbestos or ceramics formulations) rubbing against the rotor. The brake material friction as well as metal particles from the rotor or rail tracks disperses tiny particles of black dust, which forms a cohesive bond to the wheels and adheres to localised paint surfaces. Ferrous oxide micro-sized particles when they come into contact with moisture will form rust.
Detailer’s clay will remove most but not all of the iron particulate that is the cause of the rust "blooming", to for a corrosion decontamination system to be effective requires the complete removal of all particulates and the corrosive acids they generate that have penetrated the wheels surface or the paint's resin system.
Heavy deposits of ferrous oxide will require removal with a decontamination treatment (Automotive International A, B C Decontamination / Neutralization wash system (http://www.autoint.com ) this will remove the deposits and ensure against rust formation. Use detailer’s clay with the neutralization step (B), this will greatly assist the ferrous oxide removal process.
The front wheels are usually more soiled, as this is where most of the vehicle braking effectiveness is.
For badly soiled surfaces use an undiluted citrus-based APC (P21S Total Auto Wash), then use detailer’s clay followed by a gel-type wheel surface cleaner (P21S Wheel Cleaner) apply a polymer surface protection to ensure easier future cleaning (Klasse All-In-One)
Sequestered metal brake dust, if left for any length of time on the wheels causes galvanic corrosion, which etches the surface and eventually dulls the wheel’s appearance if not removed on a regular basis.
To remove brake dust stains use a mildly abrasive cleaner (Iz™ einszett Metal Polish “Chrompflege” or P21S Multi-Surface Finish)
SterlingSilber3
09-29-2007, 12:59 PM
like I said, the pic is awful and you really cant see it but maybe something is better than nothing. Oh, if you cant tell it is above the blue tape that I was focusing on.
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i301/bimmerboy_07/DSCN1681.jpg?t=1191085038
SterlingSilber3
09-29-2007, 01:03 PM
Brake dust:
Ferrous metal particles produced from the friction of train wheels and rail tracks and brake pad material (semi-metallic, carbon resins, asbestos or ceramics formulations) rubbing against the rotor. The brake material friction as well as metal particles from the rotor or rail tracks disperses tiny particles of black dust, which forms a cohesive bond to the wheels and adheres to localised paint surfaces. Ferrous oxide micro-sized particles when they come into contact with moisture will form rust.
Detailer’s clay will remove most but not all of the iron particulate that is the cause of the rust "blooming", to for a corrosion decontamination system to be effective requires the complete removal of all particulates and the corrosive acids they generate that have penetrated the wheels surface or the paint's resin system.
Heavy deposits of ferrous oxide will require removal with a decontamination treatment (Automotive International A, B C Decontamination / Neutralization wash system (http://www.autoint.com ) this will remove the deposits and ensure against rust formation. Use detailer’s clay with the neutralization step (B), this will greatly assist the ferrous oxide removal process.
The front wheels are usually more soiled, as this is where most of the vehicle braking effectiveness is.
For badly soiled surfaces use an undiluted citrus-based APC (P21S Total Auto Wash), then use detailer’s clay followed by a gel-type wheel surface cleaner (P21S Wheel Cleaner) apply a polymer surface protection to ensure easier future cleaning (Klasse All-In-One)
Sequestered metal brake dust, if left for any length of time on the wheels causes galvanic corrosion, which etches the surface and eventually dulls the wheel’s appearance if not removed on a regular basis.
To remove brake dust stains use a mildly abrasive cleaner (Iz™ einszett Metal Polish “Chrompflege” or P21S Multi-Surface Finish)
so buffing wont do a thing for me is that correct? I need to get a clay system and go to town right?
tjmonsen5
09-30-2007, 02:34 PM
you should go to walmart and buy the mothers clay bar kit. its a good clay, and it comes with a microfiber cloth and some spray lubricant. Its pretty much a quick detailer. They clay will remove it for you instantly. i promise.
Your paint will be so clean after you clay the car that it will probably look better than it has in a year or two!
Skyline
09-30-2007, 09:25 PM
Have you tried laquer thinner then a good wax.
Steve530
09-30-2007, 11:15 PM
You need to remove the metal flakes before you try to polish the car. Just think what would happen if the metal flakes became embedded in the pad as used the buffer. I think you would be in for some serious scratching there.
Anyway, give the clay a try. You might also want to start with a really strong wash. Lot's of suds and lots of water. You might want to consider a pressure wash, and you might want to consider taking it to a professional for this problem.
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