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Ridgeway
03-15-2003, 04:29 PM
I was trying tp put stonegard on my new headlights a day or so ago, and it was alot harder than I expected, or maybe I just have no idea what I'm doing lol.

But the stuff is so sticky its hard to get on exactly right.
Then I finally got it on and it didn't look right.
IE in some spots it looked like it was fully compressed against the glass so that you didn't really notice it was there, but in others it looked like almost air pockets but there was no air there ie looked dif, like not being able to see through the glass as clearly, so I took it back off...

So basically is it really needed? Will my lights be decimated without it?

thanks

G. P. Burdell
03-15-2003, 05:46 PM
The Stongard will protect your lights from rocks and sandblasting. One of my original fog lights took a direct hit from a rock a couple of years ago. Now my headlights and fog lights are all covered in Stongard, and they look great. I have no regrets.

umnitza
03-15-2003, 10:02 PM
I just got an email from one of my customers and he told me that "I don't know why I didn't buy the StonGard, I was driving along and pebble just cracked my ZKWs on the driver's side"

So, I think it's dependent on how diligent you are with the install is what will determine the clarity. A little less diligence is not going to ruin it, but a lot will

Sticky
03-15-2003, 10:04 PM
I just looked at my bumper and I have a rock chip. Now I wish I had stoneguard.

umnitza
03-15-2003, 10:05 PM
you can still get StonGard:D
email me;)

foRRREVerz
03-15-2003, 10:10 PM
Stongard are a must! Especially if you've just purchased a set of ellipsoids or have recently done an H7 conversion on your fog's.

Trust me, I recently did the H7 conversion on my foglights... and was rockin' them :cool: awaiting to get some stongards... when low and behold a few days later, some hostile road debris shattered one of my fog's just days before the stongard arrived :mad: :(

So now that the stongards has arrived... I had to purchase ANOTHER fog light, and redo the conversion again :complain sucked! More money and time wasted!

I'm happy I have stongard on my ZKW's and Fog's now... consider it a cheap way to insure your investments... and ensure your piece of mind... especially if your road conditions aren't as spic and span as the roads in Japan :stickoutt

Dinan3
03-15-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
you can still get StonGard:D
email me;)


if i use stongard for my bumper and hood, would it look yellowish?

thats what i heard

Sticky
03-15-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by umnitza
you can still get StonGard:D
email me;)

Well my car is going into the bodyshop anyway to get some stuff done, so it will be a while before I will be able to get it. When is the InV1si going to be out for the e46 m3?

umnitza
03-15-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by BMW_DINAN
if i use stongard for my bumper and hood, would it look yellowish?

thats what i heard

This is probably some myth perpetuated by PPG;)

It's just not the case. It has an anti-yellowing compound:)

egk2
03-15-2003, 10:44 PM
Just wondering how long does stoneguard last? How do I remove mine if and when it goes bad? Also, on one of my headlights is a hazy spot that hasn't dried yet, it's been over two months now. I want to stoneguard the whole front half of my car, black looks like crap with chips in it.

umnitza
03-15-2003, 11:12 PM
StonGard - warranted for 4 years or 2000 bucks.

Email me, the whole front is not that expensive when compared to a full repaint. Plus I have good prices:D

egk2
03-15-2003, 11:20 PM
thanks, I check you out after I get resprayed...

buttuh
03-15-2003, 11:26 PM
Matt,

how much is it for a set of headlight stonguard?

umnitza
03-16-2003, 03:37 AM
$25 shipped.

buttuh
03-16-2003, 03:55 AM
Great.. I will give you a call when I get the new headlights. No point covering my already cloudy looking OEM's. :(

umnitza
03-16-2003, 04:01 AM
hmmm, I smell a ZKW buyer:D I'll let you know when we get those in stock again;)

Pinecone
03-16-2003, 06:54 AM
Nobody answered your first question. When you apply the stuff to the lights, you will have bubbles of liquid trapped. They evaporate through the film over a period of weeks (faster if warmer). It will look better over time.

If doing it again, use alcohol and water mix to prevent sticking, and a heat gun or hair dryer to help make the heavy film more pliable and go on easier.

Ridgeway
03-16-2003, 11:09 AM
ahh ic

thanks alot

I think I will give it another try then(hopefully I didn't get many fingerprints on the one I took off...)

FiKtIOn
03-16-2003, 11:14 AM
Sorry for thread hijacking..

Matt, how much is a set of ZKW fogs?

umnitza
03-16-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Pinecone
Nobody answered your first question. When you apply the stuff to the lights, you will have bubbles of liquid trapped. They evaporate through the film over a period of weeks (faster if warmer). It will look better over time.

If doing it again, use alcohol and water mix to prevent sticking, and a heat gun or hair dryer to help make the heavy film more pliable and go on easier.

Actually, almost.

The way to apply the headlight is literally peal and stick, no alcohol water mix. That is for the PaintGard which is similar to tint.

When you apply the StonGard, the biggest mistake people make is to peal off the backing completely and THEN try to apply it. The ONLY way to consistently get good results is to peal a little squeegee, peal a little more, squeegee a little more, etc.

This way, each "section" that you squeegee is like it's very own piece. Also, when pealing the sections, try to barely allow your hand to touch the glass that you just alcoholed clean.

If the back of your hand touches it, it's generally ok, but the front is bad, handprints won't go away over time.

I have a video for my customers that shows them this technique.
It's a short video with good music.