standalone...opinions...

[thespeedfactory]

Researching a standalone for my m30 (I am maxing out the Split second FTC and 4" MAF)and I want to solicit opinions from the board. I need a full system that I can tune on the street (possibly without dyno) and doesn't require a degree in rocketry to install/use/or upgrade. Opinions...anyone I know folks on the board use a few of these...any regrets or woulda shouldas? Price of course is a deciding factor as is simplicity and completeness of system. ENgine is: m30 custom turbo maxing out at 24 psi (20psi safely). looking for more boost/much more effeciency and will be replacing head (VAC stg 3) and bottom end (topend performance rods and pistons)for about another $7K in Feb 2008. Thanks in advance for all your help.

Tec3/DTA/Haltech/MS...thoughts

[SiGmA]

Megasquirt. You'll want an upgraded MAP sensor, and I have no idea what type of ignition you'll want. If you run the stock distributor, you'll be fine with a basic setup frankly.

Are you sure you want to buy a VAC head vs getting a head built for you? I have no idea really, I just know I can get all the parts+machining for around $2k for a M50 head..

[thespeedfactory]

Megasquirt. You'll want an upgraded MAP sensor, and I have no idea what type of ignition you'll want. If you run the stock distributor, you'll be fine with a basic setup frankly.

Are you sure you want to buy a VAC head vs getting a head built for you? I have no idea really, I just know I can get all the parts+machining for around $2k for a M50 head..
I can get the head parts for about$2800 including dual springs,titanium retainers,275 cam,billet rockers,rocker locks, oversize valves or I can get it from VAC all done for around $3100 with porting and polishing. There is one guy in the BF classified section selling a built m30 head that sounds like what I want but I cannot get ahold of him.

As far as engine management, I want direct fire ignition
and full control of everything with a 3 bar map sensor. I want to be able to exceed 30 psi.

[e34biturbo]

Researching a standalone for my m30 (I am maxing out the Split second FTC and 4" MAF)and I want to solicit opinions from the board. I need a full system that I can tune on the street (possibly without dyno) and doesn't require a degree in rocketry to install/use/or upgrade. Opinions...anyone I know folks on the board use a few of these...any regrets or woulda shouldas? Price of course is a deciding factor as is simplicity and completeness of system. ENgine is: m30 custom turbo maxing out at 24 psi (20psi safely). looking for more boost/much more effeciency and will be replacing head (VAC stg 3) and bottom end (topend performance rods and pistons)for about another $7K in Feb 2008. Thanks in advance for all your help.

Tec3/DTA/Haltech/MS...thoughts

DTA

[thespeedfactory]

DTA
Can I just call them up and they will put together everything I will need in a package. On the DTA website BMW is not even mentioned but I know you use it so they must have worked with you to some extent. Right? What is your opinion of Tec3/MS/and Haltech? I am not soliciting any bashing or anything just looking for objective opinions. Thanks again for your inputs.

[a32guy]

Autronic SM4

[beetos]

Autronic SM4

seconded.

[techno550]

Motec, EFI, or bosch.

[5mall5nail5]

Anything under $3k? lol

[a32guy]

Anything under $3k? lol

Autronic SM4

[5mall5nail5]

Autronic SM4

How do you know - I can never find a price that doesn't involve me calling someone

[a32guy]

How do you know - I can never find a price that doesn't involve me calling someone

I could have had it at $1650 out the door for a full kit.

[rundatrack]

How do you know - I can never find a price that doesn't involve me calling someone

Call someone and you will then see that the price is under 3k.

Call a dealer...

[Bigsalgt]

Tec3, plenty have given rave reviews, on top of the greatest customer service from Vic Sias! Under $3,000.00 no, but great investment to say the least!

[5mall5nail5]

Meh this topic is a frequent one, I am staying out of it.

[5mall5nail5]

FWIW just got a reply e-mail:

Hello Jon,

The SM4 kit will set you back $2200 and comes with the ECU with on-board 4.4 bar absolute MAP sensor, extra long unterminated wiring harness, intake air temp sensor, water temp sensor, programming/datalogging cable, instruction manual. The software can be downloaded free from Autronic.com at any time. If you have any questions on setup or features let me know. I keep the SM4 in stock also.

Best regards,
Dave LaTourette
Davesport, LLC
Street Race Off-Road
Vehicle Preparation and Tuning
www.davesport.com
ph. 425-888-4444
fax 425-888-6444

[a32guy]

I might just bite the bullet and do it. Shit-- decisions decisions...

[5mall5nail5]

Gather your hardware fully first, then decide

[namike]

I could have had it at $1650 out the door for a full kit.

Not to sound like an a$$...but...

I don't even think dealer cost is that cheap for a SM4...post your specifics...or PM me directly

Mike

Oh, and to OP...if you have the cash and want a High End ECU without a High end price:

http://www.namike.com/gallery/main.php/d/707-2/IMG_2845.JPG

[bigbooste36]

I just bought VEMS its amazing I seen it on other cars and also have tuned with it very easy. I payed $1300 shipped to the front door and I got a ton of stuff trust me guys very very worth it and much much better then MS http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/
Products 2 x Automotive Relay
- with_socket: yes 13.58EUR 6 x Fusekit_stackable_socket 17.34EUR 1 x Econoseal18-harness 34.70EUR 1 x Wideband O2 sensor 79.90EUR 1 x EGT sensor (K-type)
- with_connector: pair
- Size: 6mm 77.65EUR
1 x Econoseal36-harness 48.80EUR
1 x Assembled v3.3 controller
- MAP connection: 400kPa onboard (6/4mm pneumatic)
- LCD connection: yes
- Knock and EGT: yes
- ignition driver: 8
- Flyback: 30V flyback
- 1-wire interface: no
- mounting-style: screws
- primary_trigger: VR
- PS2 connection: no
- secondary_trigger: HALL 585.71EUR 1 x LCD4x20
- Color: red

[antonch]

I just bought VEMS its amazing I seen it on other cars and also have tuned with it very easy. I payed $1300 shipped to the front door and I got a ton of stuff trust me guys very very worth it and much much better then MS http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/


That's about how much I paid for mine. I like VEMS, the hardware feels very professional. On board wideband controller, can do full sequential ignition and injection out of the box.

[bmwperson]

That's about how much I paid for mine. I like VEMS, the hardware feels very professional. On board wideband controller, can do full sequential ignition and injection out of the box.

Yep, I was looking at purchasing a VEMS unit also. AFAIR when I priced it out it was around $900 without shipping.